Is Ally the Man for the job? - The McCoist Thread

[calscot 0]

someone has said fair weather fans,glory hunters well i have been at ibrox since 1955 and this present team and management team is the worst i have ever seen i for one could not find fault with fans who decide to give it a miss and once you start losing fans because of the bad product on the park it is hard to get them back .

 

As said on another thread, if this is NOT the worst Rangers team ever, then shame on the worse one. Rangers have previously always been in the top division and always with massively more resources than most. If we have ever been as bad as a makeshift team put together in the third division after financial collapse then that's embarrassing for them.

 

We SHOULD have the worst team of all time right now, some people need to wake up and smell the coffee.

[the gunslinger 3,366]

Really? After last night? I doubt you can have it both ways but is indicative of the funny logic being used so much these days.

 

not really. with a different manager those players would be playing better.

 

they would walk into the ict team. little would be their best player probably.

[GovanAllan 0]

Has he not resigned yet, oh well more of the same on Saturday and for the foreseeable future.

 

But it's ok because we will win this league (no great feat) winning the league is all that matters right, as long as we win the absolute crap football doesn't matter. It will matter when we reach a level where just playing crap football won't get us by and by then it will be too late, no big cheque book to buy us out of the mess this time.

 

But never mind, remember we will be Div3, Div2 champions and after all that's all that matters right.

 

Enough to make you sick to the pit of your stomach.

[simplythebest 0]

Yes, I do.

 

I think there is a massive over-reaction currently, months and months of frustration are boiling over. Our pride was hurt last night but realistically we're a third division team currently and we were matching ICT (who are 5th in the SPL) until the 2nd goal. People point at our players as being of SPL class; maybe. Wallace, Alexander, McCulloch and Sheils are. I don't think Little is, he's better than Div 3 but I'm not convinced he's SPL standard, Black should be but hasn't looked it anytime I've seen him, I thought he was nothing but a clogger last season and my view hasn't changed much since. The rest simply aren't, not yet anyway. Perry, Cribari, Hegarty, Macleod and Hutton are not of that level, a couple of them might reach that level in the coming seasons as they develop but I don't think Hutton and Perry ever will. They are both good enough for Div 3 and probably Div 2 though.

 

Inverness are a solid SPL side. They watched what happened to Motherwell in the last round and learned from it. We played well in patches last night, we created chances, but we defended badly. Our defence simply isn't good enough for that standard of football.

 

As for Ally I think change now would be a knee-jerk reaction. Throughout his career McCoist has shown an ability to learn, to improve, to know what he needed to do to make himself better. We forget that at one point in his career the thought that McCoist would become our finest ever striker, an icon of Scottish football and arguably the greatest ever Ranger was so laughable as to be absurd. But he did, he has an inner steel and self analysis and the rare ability to learn from his mistakes.

 

For me Ally has earned my loyalty, my trust and my support. A change of manager is no guarantee of anything. When John Grieg left Rangers his replacement was one of the best managers of the day, a man with an wonderful track record, experience and respect. He failed. Our goal this season is the league and promotion, anything else is a bonus, I believe Ally and his team can achieve that. Take stock then.

 

We're not just any third division team are we? It's not just about losing, last night we never even tested them apart from maybe a 15 or so minute spell in the first half. You're being incredibly generous to say we matched them until the 2nd goal, apart from that spell I mentioned they were second to every ball, losing pretty much every tackle, throwing possession away and having any attacks easily snuffed out. Did we even have an attempt in the 2nd half? It's all very well saying this and that player are shite in hindsight but other SPL clubs tried to sign them but couldn't match the wages, Perry and Hutton have a good chunk of SPL experience and in Hutton's case a CL game, Hegarty, Macleod, McKay etc are playing for the national teams at their age level and have come through a system aimed at producing top flight players.

 

Inverness are solid but point is we made them look like a top class CL team majority of the game.

 

I do wish people would stop using this comparison, by my own admission i'm a young fan but you only have to look at the stats to see McCoist's goalscoring ability was always there, I know he had to vastly improve his game to win people over and be a long term Rangers player but the talent was obviously within him and hence why he was stuck with. For the comparison to even be slightly relevant there'd have to be something that hints at Ally being a good manager potentially, in 15 months i've seen nothing at all in the way his team's play, his tactics, his signings and his results to encourage me. Using his playing career is clutching at straws. He won't go now, Green has been pretty vocal about it, in the long term I just cannot see him being the man.

 

Fair enough for you, for me he's not earned that in the way that matters, and that's by results and performances. I'll always have great respect and affection for him after his spell as a player and as an ambassador during the financial troubles, but none of that earns someone the right to be Rangers manager. As for Greig and Wallace, that just shows we made the wrong appointment by going back.

 

I disagree with promotion being the only aim, we need to aim to win it ideally with style or certainly by a comfortable margin, if we only scrape it by a couple of points or something the huge questions are still there.

[the gunslinger 3,366]

As said on another thread, if this is NOT the worst Rangers team ever, then shame on the worse one. Rangers have previously always been in the top division and always with massively more resources than most. If we have ever been as bad as a makeshift team put together in the third division after financial collapse then that's embarrassing for them.

 

We SHOULD have the worst team of all time right now, some people need to wake up and smell the coffee.

 

its not the quality of players that makes this the worst team its the huge under performance of those players. we are playing incredibly poorly compared to how we should be able to play.

 

everyone is under performing week in week out.

[Guest de_bear]

While it might be the worst team ever, its miles ahead of the teams in our Division against whom we have dropped an incredible amount of points and struggled against.

 

This team should be walking this division, the players and management are woefully underperforming.

[amms 0]

most if not all of the players you list as not SPL players would walk into the ict team.

 

Says who? What do you base that on?

[amms 0]

ICT watched the Motherwell game & adapted accordingly.....McCoist watched the Motherwell game & tried nothing different.

 

He doesn't appear to be learning or adapting at all.....

 

We won the Motherwell match, why would McCoist try something different? That doesn't seem logical to me.

[the gunslinger 3,366]

Says who? What do you base that on?

 

the fact they are internationals the fact that ict team is full of very ordinary players.

 

not aimed at you but people need to consider that ict turnover is 3.4 million. our player wage bill is 7 million.

 

we should be beating them.

[frost 0]

We won the Motherwell match, why would McCoist try something different? That doesn't seem logical to me.

 

The line up against motherwell after the game started was forced on McCoist it was sheer luck, pity he doesn't appear to have learned from that slice of luck.