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We're 1-0 down at home v Celtic and down to 10 men with 5 minutes left. Lennon has been out winding up the fans. Brown is kicking everything in sight and no action is taken. We then get 2 goals and 3/4 of the stadium are on their feet singing Derry's Walls. Are you telling me you don't join in?

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With Derry's Walls, I would assume that most people simply like the "We fight and don't surrender" attitude, rather than what it meant in the first place. People should, when it come to football song, not attempt to climb moral high grounds or look for "sanity" all the time. Else, Penny Arcade or Blowing Bubbles would make you wonder.

 

While we are at it, the "Ultras" and more hardline support in the Western (former) mining and industry areas of Germany have a distinct "dislike" for rival teams and e.g. Borussia Dortmund is often "greated" by the opposition's support with "Tod und Hass dem BVB", i.e. "Death and hate to the BVB" in the respective stadia. That does not mean that these people can't behave 5 mins after the place though.

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I think we should be allowed to sing whatever the fuck we want. The only thing that should not be allowed is 71 chants and IRA shite.

 

Fans should be able to sing whatever the fuck they want apart from the above.

 

When you say 71 would it be okay for us to sing about the famine? It's hard to draw the line mate.

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Via a concerted campaign our support and our songs have been tarred with the "sectarian brush". And that is "sectarian" in a newly defined West-of-Scotland meaning. Likewise, and with no paranoia involved, the PC agenda untowards Catholics and oppressed Irish which can't be criticised by any means rose to new heights. IMHO driven by like-minded politics and media people, rather than the broad public and its opinion.

As soon as you are under that focus though, anything you do gets under the microscope, or, with regards to the Yahoos, gets swept under the carpet. Suddenly, songs that have next to nothing to do with real sectarianism are being targeted, whereas the Scum can belt out vile abuse at a foreign coach and give a laldy to songs that have been previously taken issue with by UEFA. Without the commentators at Sky even whisper an "unsavoury". Any right mind sees the flaws in such a developement, whether s/he cares about the topic at hand or not.

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Via a concerted campaign our support and our songs have been tarred with the "sectarian brush". And that is "sectarian" in a newly defined West-of-Scotland meaning. Likewise, and with no paranoia involved, the PC agenda untowards Catholics and oppressed Irish which can't be criticised by any means rose to new heights. IMHO driven by like-minded politics and media people, rather than the broad public and its opinion.

As soon as you are under that focus though, anything you do gets under the microscope, or, with regards to the Yahoos, gets swept under the carpet. Suddenly, songs that have next to nothing to do with real sectarianism are being targeted, whereas the Scum can belt out vile abuse at a foreign coach and give a laldy to songs that have been previously taken issue with by UEFA. Without the commentators at Sky even whisper an "unsavoury". Any right mind sees the flaws in such a developement, whether s/he cares about the topic at hand or not.

 

Fantastic post on the issue.

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