SteveC 150 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 It has nothing to do with people being offended. It's about marketability, they want the 'family' money and to turn sport into more of a spectacle/sideshow like the Americans have done with their sports. Nothing to do with hurt feelings. Yet nothing is said when Dundee fans sing about being up to their names in Arab blood or Thistle fans sing 'fuck the Pope and fuck the Queen' or sellick fans sing about mass murderers. It's only when we sing about something.... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26th of foot 5,829 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Night follows day. Rangers win a BIG game and suddenly the story is all about sectarian chanting, or opposition fans being pelted with sectarian coins, bottles, and pies. The club remains in a position of weakness on this; if only a significant element of our support would wise up and sing, 'up to our eyes in Spiersy's lies', 'up to our knees in trophies', ........... etc. If, and it's a Big 'IF', we could turn this on the four or five other clubs up to their knees in Ayr United blood, Arab blood, Hibee blood, ................. etc. Get smart. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aweebluesoandso 290 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 (edited) We are called Huns by every club's supporters , Dirty Orange Bastards by Hivs and Celtic supporters, Celtic supporters have a IRA Karaoke every other Saturday. Nothing is ever mentioned, Why? f@ck your Whataboutery, i want to know whataboutery is being done about the sectarianism against our club and it's supporters Edited December 29, 2015 by aweebluesoandso 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveC 150 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 (edited) Night follows day. Rangers win a BIG game and suddenly the story is all about sectarian chanting, or opposition fans being pelted with sectarian coins, bottles, and pies. The club remains in a position of weakness on this; if only a significant element of our support would wise up and sing, 'up to our eyes in Spiersy's lies', 'up to our knees in trophies', ........... etc. If, and it's a Big 'IF', we could turn this on the four or five other clubs up to their knees in Ayr United blood, Arab blood, Hibee blood, ................. etc. Get smart. The problem here is that we as a club - countersigned by every supporters' group - declared the song illegal and banned "in all forms". The song itself was banned, not just that word that is forever homed in on. We can't smartly sing it with a few changes - we can't sing it at all without being punished and, were we chasing the timz for the title, we'd find that punishment became points deducted. All we can do is point out the hypocrisy of others being allowed to sing abhorrent versions. I'm afraid we as a club and as a support consigned TBB to the "no go area" back in the day. Wonderful as it sounds when it rings out, and undeniably it gives us a lift (perhaps the real reason for the campaign against it), we're on to a loser in this argument especially given the song's origins (and, yes, I do realise sellick fans use terms and sing songs from the same terrain and worse...). Someone on FF dug out the 2006 outcome: Joint Supporter/Club Statement Banning The Billy Boys Song From The Club 9 Jun 2006 08:36:49 -0700 AT the request of a cross-section of Rangers Supporters, a meeting was held last night with Chairman, David Murray and Chief Executive, Martin Bain to discuss what the fans can collectively do to assist the Club in their ongoing efforts to silence the Sectarian minority who continue to damage the Club's reputation. A positive debate was held at Murray Park and all parties are united in a bid to silence the minority that continue to tarnish the reputation of Rangers Football Club. It was obvious from last night's meeting that the recent fines imposed by UEFA and the associated press coverage has been detrimental to the Club and to the individuals who genuinely support Rangers for its football and true values.It has been agreed between members of the Club's Board and representatives of the fan base that in the coming weeks this joint committee will do everything in their power to ensure that the Club does not breach the UEFA directives and implore upon the fans that self policing among the support is key to avoid sanctions being imposed or expulsion from European competition altogether. David Murray commented: "These supporters groups represented should be applauded for coming forward in recognition of the importance of this issue. I am delighted at the progress we made last night."Over the last two years the Club has strived fervently under the banner of Pride over Prejudice working with the authorities to impose indefinite and lifetime bans. "I look forward in the coming weeks to implementing some of the actions that were discussed.It is absolutely clear to all concerned that all Supporters need to commit to silencing the minority."This meeting coincidently coincided with UEFA's written grounds for the decision rendered by the Appeal Body in relation to Rangers two Champions League matches against Villarreal. UEFA have issued the Club with certain directives in order to combat sectarianism more efficiently.Firstly the Club has been 'ordered to announce measurable targets in order to reduce sectarian behaviour amongst its supporters'.Secondly 'to control their anti-sectarian activities by producing comprehensive statistics that are communicated to the public'. Finally 'to make a public address announcement at every official fixture, be it international or domestic, stating that any sectarian chanting and any form of 'Billy Boys' songs is strictly prohibited.' David Edgar of the Rangers Supporters Trust, Mark Dingwall of Follow Follow and Jim Templeton of the Rangers Supporters Assembly jointly agreed the following Statement:"The message now could not be clearer that the spotlight is upon the Supporters and the Club and it is their duty to work together to stamp out the minority who are damaging the reputations of all those connected with Rangers Football Club."Not only does this small minority tarnish the reputation of Rangers, but of Scottish football and our society in general and hopefully anyone who is interested in Scottish football will work with us in assisting to eradicate this behaviour." Supporter Representatives Jim Templeton Assembly President Alex Milree Chairman of the Scottish Alliance Delegates Mark Dingwall Follow Follow/ Rangers Supporters Trust James Carlin The Blue Order Simon Leslie The Blue Order Tam Green Lanarkshire Supporters Representative David Edgar Rangers Supporters Trust, Media Spokesperson Ross Blyth Fife and District supporters club representative Malcolm McNiven Rangers Supporters Trust, Chairman Edited December 29, 2015 by SteveC typos and FF quote 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEARGER 1,829 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Hilarious absolutely, but in a pathetic type way. Coming from generations of Bridgeton folk I piss myself laughing when I read this sort of stuff. Billy Fulerton joined Oswald Mosleys"s fascists, and he set up a Glasgow branch of the KKK. For good measure he did time for wife beating, a real nice guy eh? Your not the only one who's family came from Brigton. Most Rangers fans do not know who the song is about. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onevision 1,442 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I sang " we're up to our knees in leagues and cups" At the top of my voice and others around sang different versions, plural . We need to agree on new words and a version that we can introduce as our anthem again. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 any form of 'Billy Boys' songs is strictly prohibited. UEFA fine and warn Rangers over sectarian singing by fans Governing body throws out original 'not guilty' verdict http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12435079.UEFA_fine_and_warn_Rangers_over_sectarian_singing_by_fans_Governing_body_throws_out_original__apos_not_guilty_apos__verdict/ It's worse than unfortunate that this particular piece of our history has been resurrected and singing it with some altered words makes no difference for two reasons: 1) The song itslef is banned 2) There will always be some who will sing the original words. Time we called time on this for once and for all. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,411 Posted December 29, 2015 Author Share Posted December 29, 2015 The song is only banned for Rangers fans,every other club that sings their own version is ok,ie Killie,if the song is banned it should be banned for every teams fans!. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 The song is only banned for Rangers fans,every other club that sings their own version is ok,ie Killie,if the song is banned it should be banned for every teams fans!. Let's get our own house in order, then we can worry about others. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,411 Posted December 29, 2015 Author Share Posted December 29, 2015 Let's get our own house in order, then we can worry about others. We are doing a fantastic job of getting our house in order,more than any other club. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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