Uilleam 5,458 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 McLeish's pronouncements and prognostications are like his football teams: lacking imagination. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuGers 477 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 3rd? So same position as your finished Alex? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 5,199 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) 3rd? So same position as your finished Alex? He also won the treble with us.... He also won 5 of the 1st 6 domestic trophies he managed us through, against Saint Martin Damned statistics eh ? Edited August 21, 2017 by craig 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuGers 477 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 He also won the treble with us.... He also won 5 of the 1st 6 domestic trophies he managed us through, against Saint Martin Damned statistics eh ? I know but he should think about what he is saying before spouting off. Any minor comment that can be flung back at us will be. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 He also won the treble with us.... He also won 5 of the 1st 6 domestic trophies he managed us through, against Saint Martin Damned statistics eh ? His record is pretty good to be fair. But to be fairer still, he achieved most of it with players he inherited from Advocaat. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 5,199 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 His record is pretty good to be fair. But to be fairer still, he achieved most of it with players he inherited from Advocaat. Oh, I agree with that Bill. But those same players weren't performing for Advocaat. If we are to discount some of his positive achievements due to inheriting players then should we also not be discounting some of the negative "achievements" due to significant financial down-sizing ? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 His record is pretty good to be fair. But to be fairer still, he achieved most of it with players he inherited from Advocaat.Not the second title. Far far from it. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Oh, I agree with that Bill. But those same players weren't performing for Advocaat. If we are to discount some of his positive achievements due to inheriting players then should we also not be discounting some of the negative "achievements" due to significant financial down-sizing ? Absolutely 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERRAB 3,273 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 After winning the treble in 2013, McLeish struggled big time after Advocaat's players started leaving. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffer 1,665 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 For me, winning isn't everything. I watched some really poor stuff from Waletr's and McLeish's teams and I don't think I could motivate myself to watch that again. I just hope we can build a brand of football that's effective and good to watch. One without the other doesn't interest me now. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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