calscot 0 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) Late tackle by Aberdeen player. Edited December 4, 2017 by calscot 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,461 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Tough decision for the club regards to an appeal though!, accept it and Jack misses next weeks match at home to Ross County, or appeal it ad if the appeal fails he will miss the next 3 matches? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calscot 0 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Because I think it should be rescinded, I think we have to appeal. If we win then it shows 3 rescinded red cards out of four which if nothing else will surely make refs think a bit longer before handing out another. I don't want it to change a sending off if it's due, it's just the number of erroneous ones is surely a bit worrying. As others have shown, there are far worse where the player didn't get the ball that were unpunished. Here it's all about proving intent which without a lie detector I would say should go to the benefit of the doubt. When you miss the ball and get the man, then you had no business being so reckless, whether intended or not. Much easier to prove. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian1964 10,461 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 No Alves, Dorrans, Morelos, Wallace or manager; Centre-half and goalscorer subbed off injured at half-time; Ten men for last half hour: Won. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthter 542 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Late tackle by Aberdeen player. I think these photos clearly back up the question: "Where is the challenge from Jack???" When Jack played the ball, May was a good 2-3 feet away.... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 Okay I am changing my mind on this.and here is why. This is the first contact Jack had with the ball. In the second photo you can see the ball has moved a short distance. in the 3rd photo is the moment of contact with the leg the ball has only travelled about a metre since being kicked.The thing is that May's body shape is also the exact same from start to finish and that his foot has actually came forward halving the distance. If Jack was supposed to do a millisecond turn around why did May not change as he saw far earlier that Jack was getting the ball and had more time to react. What happened after that made it look worse but I see no way Jack could have pulled out of that. Just my new opinion. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 Sorry Cal i was also busy doing that when you posted obviously. I could have saved myself the time. Another thing is that if you look at the first and 3rd photo then May's leg has actually moved further than Jacks. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthter 542 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Okay I am changing my mind on this.and here is why.This is the first contact Jack had with the ball. In the second photo you can see the ball has moved a short distance. in the 3rd photo is the moment of contact with the leg the ball has only travelled about a metre since being kicked.The thing is that May's body shape is also the exact same from start to finish and that his foot has actually came forward halving the distance. If Jack was supposed to do a millisecond turn around why did May not change as he saw far earlier that Jack was getting the ball and had more time to react. What happened after that made it look worse but I see no way Jack could have pulled out of that. Just my new opinion. Look at difference in foot travel between the 2nd & 3rd images. It is clear that May is travelling INTO Jack's position. you can see in the 3rd image that Jack has raised his arm in anticipation of the challenge, but is unable to counteract his momentum. May's movement occurs AFTER Jack has played the ball away (ie. Late). Essentially there is ONE challenge being made, and that is from May. If Jack's foot hadn't landed on May, it would have been a free kick to US!!! 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffer 1,665 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Notwithstanding our differences in opinion over the red card, it will be very interesting to see what happens if this one was rescinded. I think the 'authorities' would be opening themselves up to ridicule and accusation if they overturn another one. I'd love to see the comments on Kerrydale if it is though. That would be great entertainment. If we appeal and win, then surely there is a strong case for proving over-zealous (let's just call it that for now) refereeing towards us. Has there ever been a circumstance like this before where so many red cards are overturned? I can't remember when the appeals process was introduced but this must be some sort of record already. I also think there's a problem with the review panel too. When you see tackles like those on Tav and Holt, it makes me mad that we can't punish that properly retrospectively. Surely the point of the review panel is to ensure justice is done as far as cards and suspensions is concerned. If a referee gives even a free kick, apparently there is nothing that can then be done about it. That just doesn't make sense in my book. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onevision 1,460 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I don't think there is the slightest chance of this red card being rescinded. After reviewing the footage umpteen times i'm still unsure whether it was deliberate or not therefore too easy for any review panel to judge in favour of the referee on this occasion. Do i think May opted out the challenge leading to his injury? probably but If the roles were reversed i'd be screaming for red, who wouldn't? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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