craig 5,199 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Frankie said: Morality in football is very much dependent on what club it happens at and we're all guilty of hypocrisy when it comes to some issues. What Gascoigne and Flanagan did to their partners is inexcusable and in no way comparable to damaging a car. If you want a line, then that's it. Sure, there's an argument that what our players do outside the club is their own business and, in some respects, that allowed us to be lenient with Gascoigne at the time - though his relationship with Rangers and football generally changed somewhat after that. This time, one off or not, we know the player's background beforehand and, if we couple that toxicity with his injury problems then it makes the signing an unnecessary risk. That remains the case even if we take the abuse/morality aspect out of it. As such, I find it a strange move by Gerrard but, if it works, then it may prove a lucrative one. It isn't a strange move at all. That is just trying to fit a position into your argument. Gerrard played with Flanagan Gerrard trained with Flanagan Gerrard knows Flanagan from both of the above Gerrard knows what happened in this personal incident Gerrard knows we need better back-up than Lee Hodson Gerrard knows what Flanagan can bring So, no, it isn't a strange move at all. Not by a long shot. I find your suggestion that this move is strange to be...well... strange. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 8,151 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Of course there are a few good reasons for Gerrard to sign him but because of the lad's toxicity, injury record and poor recent contribution on the pitch I find it a strange move. Other people are, of course, welcome to disagree and the signing may prove to be a lucrative master-stroke but I think there may have been better options which fulfil the positive column and have fewer negatives, meaning less division. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 5,199 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, Frankie said: Of course there are a few good reasons for Gerrard to sign him but because of the lad's toxicity, injury record and poor recent contribution on the pitch I find it a strange move. Other people are, of course, welcome to disagree and the signing may prove to be a lucrative master-stroke but I think there may have been better options which fulfil the positive column and have fewer negatives, meaning less division. Who are the better options you believe are out there with Premiership experience, out of contract and on reasonable wages ? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMAA 3,603 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 39 minutes ago, craig said: Who are the better options you believe are out there with Premiership experience, out of contract and on reasonable wages ? I thought Jason Naismith had done enough. He was signed for about 200k by Peterborough. Doubt he would have come here to be an understudy to Tavernier but he looked like a future Scottish international to me. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooponthewing 1,139 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 There is a heck of a lot of unnecessary hysteria over this. Calm down. Everyone has a past and they put it behind them. As as long as he is a good professional for us, it’s a good signing and wish him the best. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 13,637 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 He has signed. Get behind him. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
der Berliner 3,247 Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share Posted June 21, 2018 A quick glance at the players currently with us. CAPITALS denote their prime role in a 4-4-2 system (I had to chose one), normal letters their utility roles. I just took the from the roster with no preference of names and people. Likewise, some folk may well be off or haven't gone to Spain, but as long as we have them in the team ... Goalies McGREGOR FODERINGHAM ALNWICK Robbie McCRORIE Defenders TAVERNIER - CARDOSO - ALVES - WALLACE HODSON - GOLDSON - A. WILSON - JOHN FLANAGAN – Flanagan – KATIC - Flanagan Beerman - Tavernier - A. WILSON - Hodson xxxxxx - Ross McCrorie – xxxxxx – BEERMAN xxxxxx - xxxxx – xxxxxx – Halliday Midfielders CANDEIAS - JACK - DORRANS - MURPHY Docherty - Ross McCRORIE - WINDASS - Halliday Arfield - HALLIDAY - ROSSITER - John Dorrans - DOCHERTY - ARFIELD - Beerman Morelos - Arfield - BARJONAS - Dorrans Beerman - BURT - EJARIA - Candeias Murphy – xxxxxx – Murphy – Windass Forrester – xxxxxx – Forrester - FORRESTER Strikers MORELOS - HERRERA xxxxxx - HARDIE 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 5,199 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said: He has signed. Get behind him. Unless his name is Windass it would seem..... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 5,199 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, der Berliner said: A quick glance at the players currently with us. CAPITALS denote their prime role in a 4-4-2 system (I had to chose one), normal letters their utility roles. I just took the from the roster with no preference of names and people. Likewise, some folk may well be off or haven't gone to Spain, but as long as we have them in the team ... Goalies McGREGOR FODERINGHAM ALNWICK Robbie McCRORIE Defenders TAVERNIER - CARDOSO - ALVES - WALLACE HODSON - GOLDSON - A. WILSON - JOHN FLANAGAN – Flanagan – KATIC - Flanagan Beerman - Tavernier - A. WILSON - Hodson xxxxxx - Ross McCrorie – xxxxxx – BEERMAN xxxxxx - xxxxx – xxxxxx – Halliday Midfielders CANDEIAS - JACK - DORRANS - MURPHY Docherty - Ross McCRORIE - WINDASS - Halliday Arfield - HALLIDAY - ROSSITER - John Dorrans - DOCHERTY - ARFIELD - Beerman Morelos - Arfield - BARJONAS - Dorrans Beerman - BURT - EJARIA - Candeias Murphy – xxxxxx – Murphy – Windass Forrester – xxxxxx – Forrester - FORRESTER Strikers MORELOS - HERRERA xxxxxx - HARDIE Just shows how lacking we are in striking options.... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 13,637 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 minute ago, craig said: Unless his name is Windass it would seem..... I support Windass at the games (I admit I do sometimes mutter expletives though). Messageboards are a place to discuss things going on at the club - you are entitled to your view, as am I (providing we keep it civil). 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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