JohnMc 3,351 Posted Monday at 08:04 Share Posted Monday at 08:04 1 minute ago, RANGERRAB said: Le Guen was offski when he got offered the PSG job. His biggest challenge was the monster munch brigade none of whom survived when Walter Smith returned None of whom survived? Are you kidding? Boyd and Ferguson were integral to Smith's side. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 12,286 Posted Monday at 08:19 Share Posted Monday at 08:19 1 hour ago, JohnMc said: I get the feeling I'm not explaining myself well. It's not just about making improvements. Gerrard made improvements but he didn't change the culture. There are plenty of examples of attempts to change a culture that failed too. Le Guen is the most obvious example where Rangers are concerned. He was hired to change us from a Scottish style of club to a continental style. He failed to do that. The club wouldn't change, he didn't implement or explain the changes he wanted well enough, influential players didn't buy into his vision. There are probably more examples of failure than success in all honesty. Culture change has to come from the very top and the person/people implementing it needs to be backed all the way. I think you've explained it very well. They had already made up their minds and now find it difficult to get off their high horse. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
L72 580 Posted Monday at 08:29 Share Posted Monday at 08:29 24 minutes ago, JohnMc said: I forgot it was David Murray who appointed Souness and bankrolled the signing the England team in the summer of 1986. Hopefully he'll return to the club and do it again. 👍 Where did I say Murray appointed Souness? Holmes appointed Souness, we were bankrolled by Marlborough. We were already wealthy, it ramped up a notch under DM, and him and Souness kicked us into overdrive. But well done you're starting to get the point, cash and influential manager = good standard of players, hopefully the 49ers and Cavenagh back Martin sufficiently. Though questions can still be put to Martin's appointment imo. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 15,716 Posted Monday at 08:31 Share Posted Monday at 08:31 (edited) I think Gerrard did change the culture. Before he arrived, the yahoos were beating us with ease and we had just been knocked out of Europe by a team no one had heard of. Culture is quite a vague term when it comes to a sports team. We can all take a slightly different meaning from it. Edited Monday at 08:31 by Gonzo79 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Devil's advocaat 1,996 Posted Monday at 08:51 Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 08:51 Wenger is probably the best example of someone changing culture of a club long term. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutton_blows_goats 6,653 Posted Monday at 09:01 Share Posted Monday at 09:01 I don't expect this will be a popular opinion, but given the success of Tillman, Sima and then Cerny. I wouldn't have a problem with us paying for 4 (I specify 4 because I believe that's the limit) high quality loan signings for this season like Aarons. It may be high cost in terms of fee and wages, but its low risk in that the impact is short term. It also gives the football operations team a bit more time to look for and secure more suitable targets long term. Imagine if last season we took that approach instead of recruiting Propper at cost? We have a lot of work to do this summer and getting 4 quality players in for a year would help accelerate our progress. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7 7,028 Posted Monday at 09:44 Share Posted Monday at 09:44 1 hour ago, Gonzo79 said: I think Gerrard did change the culture. It hadn’t occurred to me but I think that’s right. Instead of just drawing a wage he made the players earn a wage. Martin needs to do the same with whatever talent Thelwell provides and he’ll be on his way to succeeding. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
L72 580 Posted Monday at 10:33 Share Posted Monday at 10:33 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutton_blows_goats 6,653 Posted Monday at 10:35 Share Posted Monday at 10:35 (edited) 6 minutes ago, L72 said: A poorly asked question with a very easy get out. Unless it was just a joke ofc Edited Monday at 10:43 by Sutton_blows_goats 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 12,286 Posted Monday at 10:52 Share Posted Monday at 10:52 AEK Athens are pushing hard to tie up a deal for Cyriel Dessers within the next 48 hours (Scottish Sun), external. Croatian striker Matija Frigan says the Scottish Premiership would be perfect for him as Rangers and Hamburg are linked with the 22-year-old currently with Westerlo in Belgium. (Daily Record), external Robin Propper will begin pre-season with Rangers this week despite a bid for the 31-year-old centre-half from his former club, Twente Enschede, but is expected to hold talks with new head coach Russell Martin before deciding on his future. (Daily Record) 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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