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As a BuyRangers member I would politely tell those involved with RangersFirst to gtf and leave the actual BuyRangers members to decide what to do with our shares. RangersFirst have no say at all over it and neither to SDS. It is massive arrogance from anyone to assume the BuyRangers members would want to do this.

Easdale owned very little shares but he had the backing of a large portion of the shareholders. Similar to Walter Smith and Malcolm Murray. Being on the board and owning shares are totally different. But ultimately the shareholders decide who is on the board so shareholding is where the real power is.

Or alternatively fans pump millions more into the club to be a member, vote on someone on the board (who is completely ignored) and the current inhabitants continue to pay themselves exorbitant bonuses with even more of the fans money. Membership works at clubs who have majority, or at least a large minority, level of ownership as then the membership has a proper say. I would back a membership scheme if I knew it was going to help the club but at the current time when we are leaking cash all over it would be the worst time possible to do so.

Lets hope Paul Le Guen is better at managing finances than he was a football team!

I can confirm I've received my GerSave money back. Sure others could too. Rumours like that with no basis which can be proven to be a lie do nobody any good. I'd like to see proof of any such allegations.

Are laws governing Industrial & Provident Societies not UK wide so not specific to Scotland? Also why would lawyers need to be present at a press launch? I know I wouldn't want to foot the bill for a partner in a law firm to come to Glasgow from, at closest Manchester, for what is really a photo opportunity. Maybe now someone has attempted an answer you could enlighten us with your own answer?

After reading that..kind of glad he didnt take over. Sounds like he was going to not spend much more than Hearts/Hibs and hire an American manager to get away from Western European influence.

Agreed 100%. I spend ages online and when the USP was formed it was big news on all sites. Then at my RSC meeting it wasn't even mentioned. Truth of the matter is vast majority of support don't care about groups and see any fighting or divisive statements as ridiculous and puts punters off the idea of groups altogether. Everyone that posts on forums or on twitter is a loony anyway. Quite right they are ignored!

A properly structured democratically system being implemented by the club right now could be ideal to bring the fans together as one unit. But it would have to be open to all and not along the lines of the USP statement which was childish. I'd hope also if the club endorsed a 100% democratic yet independent group new people might come forward to get over any of the old nonsense.

Seems a bit strange that two website (Rangers Media & CoplandRoad.org) had their names on the statement yet RM requested to be removed and CRO appear to not even have read it before it came out. Add to this RTID tweeting about wishing to be removed as they hadnt be consulted and its a very strange affair. How many people did see the USP statement before it was released with all these groups names on it?

So if we draw Celtic at Parkhead no Rangers fans should go and we let them fill it with 60k of their own kind? Bit premature I think.

If they read out the statement on their site then they were walking away from the whole process anyway so being asked to leave doesnt seem like a strange course of action to be honest. If they arent going to be involved in the process, and are actually looking to harm the process, its quite understandable that they were asked to leasve.

Surely part of the reason we are in the mess we are in is your first statement above? If the majority of the RST board, a democratic fan group, was to change would you still hold this opinion? The RST is what we the support make of it. It has the structure to be the one body if the fans decided they actually wanted a genuine 100% democratic fan group. Rangers Unite should probably change their name to Rangers Dis-Unite after walking out of a meeting consisting of other Rangers fan groups, independent government bodies and one of the few political allies we have.

I am undecided about renewing my season ticket but I can certainly understand calls to hold off renewing for now. After we all cautiously welcomed Whyte last year I am no longer willing to simply back the guy standing at Ibrox with a Rangers tie on and hope for the best. I want security and a certainty that the guys at the top have not ulterior motive. If we wait for players to leave, and possibly our manager to join them, then it will be too late. I also find it sad that the main focus for some appears to be one person's quotes contained within an article. John Macmillan also said the same as Mark Dingwall yet nobody seems to be mention that.

Fair enough with the work behind the scenes which goes un-noticed. I know many fans put in the time for these things and get no credit. Maybe they need to blow their own trumpet a bit more with updates on their website about what they have been doing. However I still think its poor that there isnt an option to choose individual away games on the form when we were told at the meeting that option would be available.

I'd agree but at the meeting at Ibrox, minutes above, of RSC secretaries the RFFF proposed they'd be the one group to lead on sanctions and nobody from the floor disagreed. It does seem to move away from what it was formed to do.

Is anyone else extremely disappointed with the RFFF and their lack of leadership on away game applications for next year? At the meeting at Ibrox on 28th April the Fighting Fund were unanimously elected by all present (mostly RSC secretaries) to decide sanctions next year for away clubs. Minutes of that meeting are below. 4.4 It was proposed to the meeting and unanimously accepted, and seconded, that the RFFF committee consider each of the proposed actions by the fans of Rangers FC and decide on which of these should be pursued and against which Clubs and/or their sponsors. This group comprised all the main fans groups and would ensure consistent and full communication to all their respective members. Also it was mentioned that on the season ticket form there wouldnâ??t be an option for all away games as then no boycott could be completed. Now the forms are out we can see that this is not true and we will find ourselves having to apply for ALL away games or none as we have in previous years. Has anyone heard anything from the RFFF direct in recent weeks? It was also stated in the minutes of the above meeting that: 5.3 Sandy Jardine thanked all for their attendance and confirmed he would ensure ongoing communication with representatives of Supportersâ?? Clubs over the coming months.. As far as I can see from the pretty poor RFFF website there is no way to contact the committee direct and their twitter is non existent. Should the RFFF really be the organisation we expect to lead the fight against the enemies of our club?

Popped into the Sauchiehall Street store today when I saw Broxi outside. Had a good wee chat to Alex MacDonald. Legend!

Written by Richard Wilson who is well respected and definitely not one for stirring controversy. He has been accurate and informative in all of this so far. As Chilled Bear says we should know not to always shoot the messenger by now.

One small advantage of the uncertainty around our club is the massive uncertainty it is causing our rivals. Without the season ticket money in the summer Celtic will surely struggle to budget for the year ahead and limit their investment in the squad. Their average crowd post our administration, in real terms, must have been around 45k or less.

Duff & Phelps were all set to go with the Blue Knights bid until was decimated when Ticketus pulled out due to the ridiculous SFA sanctions. We could have gone with the Blue Knights as preferred bidder 2-3 weeks ago and exit from administration could be only 1-2 weeks away and we could trust the owners to have the best interest of the club at heart. Instead we are no further forward and all sitting here just hoping D&P get a move on and make the correct choice. We should never forget it was the SFA who tried to kill us off with their draconian sanctions. Do we even have a date for the appeal to be heard?

Dont even think D&P know how many bidders there are! Differing claims.

We have to be out of administration by 4th August (start of the new season) or we will be given a 10 point penalty.

Biggest thing I would like of a new owner is to split the ownership amongst high investors (rich guys) and low investors (punters) to ensure that no lunatic like Craig Whyte can ever own the club in future. Make things transparent and accountable.

All 3 of the main bidders have been put off proceeding by Duff & Phelps. The delays are causing untold harm to our club. They are incompetent but we are stuck with them now.