Jump to content

 

 

The Real PapaBear

 View Profile  See their activity

  • Posts

    2,366

  • Joined

  • Last visited

Everything posted by The Real PapaBear

  1. The Real PapaBear
    Kevin Bridges is a professional comedian, dB - I think this exchange is very tongue in cheeck
  2. The Real PapaBear
    Smart kid with good advisors it seems. If he stays with us, makes himself a regular and gets a hundred frst team games under his belt, then his future can more or less be assured, either with us or elsewhere when it's time to move to England or elsewhere. Let's hope fr our sakes that he's a stay-at-home kind, in the Davie Cooper mould.
  3. The Real PapaBear
    Again, if I may attempt to summarise your position, it is this: You are, by your own admission, entirely ignorant of the history of the IRA, (and by implication ignorant of the origins and causes of the conflict in Northern Ireland and by extrapolation, ignorant of the events which seem to play such an important part in your own Weltanschauung) and yet, despite this self-acknowledged ignorance, you feel competent enough to proclaim what this song does and does not refer to. There is, of course, no question and never has been, that the object of their affection is the Provisional IRA, and no doubt, among the younger neds, the Continuity IRA and the Real IRA and the I-Cant-Believe-Its-Not-IRA IRA. Neither is there any doubt that anyone who goes to a football match in Glasgow and sings about 3 lettered Irish terrorist groups and pretends to be singing about what these used to be a hundred years ago is.... now how can I put this without incurring the wrath of the admins... indulging in veracious inexactitude. But that's not really the issue, is it? The question before us is not about the drivel they sing, it's about the drivel that our so-called supporters sing. And we really don't, by the way, have a "large loyalist/protestant" element to our support. 90% of Rangers fans don't give a damn about loyalism and probably only slightly less don't give a second thought to religion of any kind.
  4. The Real PapaBear
    Well, Bluedell, let me tell you, as someone who has just been cleverly outed as a closet terrorist-sympathiser,whose strong point is the history of the IRA, the song was written in the 1970s and so, being about an old man reflecting on his youth, it is, one the face of it, a song about the original IRA and not the Provos. On the face of it. But then, we all know that's bullshit. We all know that people who pretend to be singing about the original organisations, rather than their modern day terrorist manifestations,, and who point to song lyrics to prove it are pretty much two-faced bullshitt merchants.
  5. The Real PapaBear
    Let me see if I can summarise your position: Your song about the UVF can't possibly be about the modern day terror group because the lyrics are set in the early 20th C whereas their song about the IRA is definitely about the modern day terror group despite the lyrics being set in the early 20th C. You've really not thought this one through, have you?
  6. The Real PapaBear
    Thanks for that up and for making the case for the Green Brigade who, following your logic, are clearly *not* singing about the modern IRA. Oh father, why are you so sad, on this bright Easter morn? When Irishmen are proud and glad Of the land where they were born." "Oh, son, I see in memories view Of far off distant days, When, being just a lad like you, I joined the IRA Up until you cleared it up for me I was under the impression that they were singing to the glorification of a bunch of murdering scum; clearly not.
  7. The Real PapaBear
    What a humiliation! Imagine losing a goal to that mob? There will be some serious questions asked in the Nou Camp tomorrow morning
  8. The Real PapaBear
    Andy's working towards an MSc in Sarcasm Studies; sometimes he allows this to colour his posts.
  9. The Real PapaBear
    Paul le geun didn't think so
  10. The Real PapaBear
    It seems to me, but if I'm wrong it won't be the first time, that your argument is intrinsically flawed because although you recognise football fans as an identifiable group you don't seem to accept that people acting in groups must be treated differently from individuals acting alone. It's the difference between going for a walk and going on a march; when you group together for a purpose, then different rules apply. Tens of thousands may get away with stuff every weekend but that's because they are tens of thousands of individuals doing stupid stuff and not representatives of larger, identifiable groupings with anti-social agendas to promote. (although, maybe if louts did get lengthy bans from pubs and clubs when they break the law then our town and city centres might once again be places you can visit at night) It's really not difficult to avoid feeling the heavy hand of the law; just don't sing songs about killing people of a different faith and/or songs glorifying terrorists and murderers.
  11. The Real PapaBear
    In other words, the normal, decent person should timetable their weekend activities and those of their children to suit sociopathic yobs. Have you thought this one through? Maybe what people expect is to be able to travel with a feeling of safety and not to have their sensibilities assualted by braying yobs chanting obscenities. The place for chanting and singing is in or at the football stadium, among people who have tacitly agreed to condone and possibly indulge in such anti-social behaviour for the period of 90 minutes, give or take - not on the lunchtime train from East Kilbride to Central Station. Here's an idea; how about people don't sing, shout, swear or otherwise engage in anti-social behaviour on public transport or in public places and those who do get lifted for breach of the peace?
  12. The Real PapaBear
    Well, the only place there was a 'complete absence of friends and sympathisers' was in the top flight that you are so desperate to get back to. All of those jackals would have been quite happy to see us die Meanwhile, the clubs in the lower divisions, the small, decent clubs with no agendas to peddle - your"non-entities and no-marks" - turned out to be true friends who offered their hand that we could get back up on to our kness at least. As to whether our difficulties were self-inflicted, that's something that will come out in time, but personally speaking, I believe we have been the victim of a conspiracy.
  13. The Real PapaBear
    I see the Analogy classes are going well
  14. The Real PapaBear
    You sure you're ready for this place Hildy? I mean, what happens when somebody dismantles your arguemnt without swearing? How will you avoid dealing with the substantive points then? Oh, and by the way, we don't need to know that you're sending messages via Tapatalk or the hardware you're using to send them.
  15. The Real PapaBear
    Is it just me? But when the fuck did fans get to police themselves? Who appointed Declan and Sean from the Goon Brigade to be competent and qualified in crowd control and health & safety legislation? I'm going to give that one a go next time I'm in Tesco: "Stand down security guards;,; turn of your walkie-talkies and CCTV! No need! I'll police myself....to 4 bottles of whisky, some organic Feta and a roast chcken" And not only are the Police allowing this shower of shamrock vigilanties to run the stadiums, the BBC are faithfully reporting their every utterance as though it was carved in stones and delivered from Mount Sinai by David Attenborough.
  16. The Real PapaBear
    These "non-entities and no-marks" are the only reason your football team is playing at all. Your arrogance and lack of any form of self awareness is an exemplar of why we are, to quote you, "despised" by many within the game. I mean, I don't really mind too much when you announce your presence on the forum by calling opposing beliefs and arguements "nonsense" and "drivel". it's not generally Gersnet style to be quite so obnoxious from the get-go - but, hey, it's no hanging matter, just evidence of an under-developed style of discourse;. But, seriously, how fucking dare you call those people and those clubs who threw us a lifeline when we were drowning "non-entities and no-marks"? And in case it has escaped your attention, our club has no stature or standing at all; our club is a national laughing stock. The only part of Rangers which has emerged from this farce with any credibility is the fan base, who have stood by their club in a manner never before seen anywhere on this planet. The point, which you miss in your Janefield St genuflection and homage to the greatness and attraction of Celtic, is that while our support, with the obvious exception of yourself, is getting on with (and if you read d'Artagnan's post, actually enjoying) the days out to far flung places, the Celtic support, in our absence, is imploding. It's eating itself alive with the vitriol and hatred which they used to use to unite against us. They can't handle life without us. Without us their demons are coming out of the closet and their jolly craicster mask is sliding off both their faces. We, on the other hand, are getting on fine without them. We proved it last season, we're proving it this season and we'll prove it next and the season after that.
  17. The Real PapaBear
    What do the Continuity Green Brigade say and have we heard from the Provisional Green Brigade yet? Seriously, this crowd are so far up their own arses they could probably only see the flares through their nostrils.
  18. The Real PapaBear
    dB, I take on board, and agree with, your comments regarding the wider world's views on and coverage of events at Ibrox. However, with regard to Somers, you are cutting this guy far too much slack. Either he really knew nothing about the events leading up to his appointment, in which case he is too stupid and ill-prepared to be our chairman, or he is lying, in which case he is too dishonest to be our chairman.
  19. The Real PapaBear
    That's what I'm getting at. the games are generally turgid, there is nothing to play for, we are bored rigid....but we're there week after week after week. This is the time when we as a support are being forged and after 140 years of talking the talk about being the people, we've shown that it wasn't just talk and empty bluster. We actually are what we said we were, so in some respects I'd say there has never been a better time to be a Rangers fan - because after this, we can look any support in the eye.
  20. The Real PapaBear
    in some respects, yes - but this is also the time when we as a fan base have never had more reason to be proud of ourselves. In our club's hour of need, we were there. Solid. Unwavering. In the months after the desperate need appeared to have passed and the long slog back up the leagues began, we have been there. Solid. Unwavering. The fans of all the diddy teams talked big and disappeared when asked to put hteir money where their oversized mouths were. The fans of Glasgow's second biggest team must have started their Christmas shopping in early September, so bereft were the Parkhead seats of the green arses that used to sit on them.
  21. The Real PapaBear
    "you have to wonder if there is some kind of unofficial competition going on among the supporters of Celtic and Rangers....to discover the nation’s dimmest fan." Ok, Tom, let's see if my maths is what it used to be: Rangers fans throwing incendiary devices this week: 1 Celtic fans throwing incendiary devices this week: 20+ Rangers fans televised singing sectarian songs this season at a lower league game at berwick: 10 - 20, resulting in national scandal Celtic fans singing sectarian songs in a champions League game v Ajax : 1,000 - 2,000, resulting in....tumbleweed. seats destroyed by Rangers fans: zero seats destroyed by celtic fans : scores Rangers fans arrested and imprisoned for rioting this season: 0 Celtic fans arrrested and imprisoned for rioting this season : 5 not really much of a competition, I'd say.
  22. The Real PapaBear
    We do have a nursery club, it's called 'Hearts'. Still can't agree on a bigger league though, for reasons I've adumbrated ad nauseam.
  23. The Real PapaBear
    whhooaaw. Slow down there, mate! You're being a bit harsh on rats, don't you think?
  24. The Real PapaBear
    Do I miss playing them? No, not really. The feeling when victory is certain and you can taunt and toy with them, rub their noses in their own inferiority and bathe in their impotent suffering (or,as we used to call it, the 19990s) - man, there was nothing sweeter that you could do with your clothes on. But when we lost? Talk about fucking desolation? Outside of a family tradgedy or the loss of a pet or your job, there was no worse feeling. The cold shower of remembering on the Sunday or Monday morning? That acidic twist in your guts? No, I don't miss that. I really don't. Having to share a stadium with them? No thanks. Also, it's nice to be playing football against people who don't (yet) seem to hate us. That will change when we return to the top flight, no doubt, and there will be an element of bitterness towards those who would see us dead. That will never, at least for me, ever be forgotten. But for the moment, I'm enjoying the journey, if not always the places we are passing through.
  25. The Real PapaBear
    if that's the case, he has no business being anywhere near a boardroom. Jesus wept, you'd find out more information that that about the local corner shop if you were applying for a job there!
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.