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The Real PapaBear

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  1. Is it really beyond you Frankie? I suspect it's not and that you're just using a turn of phrase - but in case it is, let me help. Every journo who wants to make a name for themselves has to fulfill two criteria: First they need a Unique Selling Point and second, they have to deliver the message given to them by their masters in such a way that the message is camoflaged. Graham Spiers' USP is that he is the middle-class, public school boy, more at home on the golf course or rugby pitch (watching, of course) with refined sensibilities and elevated above the normal sectarian divide of the region he comes from. He is thus able to view matters from above the smoke and confusion of battle. His view is clear and true and his pronouncements are based thereupon. He has publicly stated that he is not a Celtic fan and that, once upon a time, he supported Rangers and, actually, twist his arm and he'll admit he still has a soft spot for them. So, having come clean about his Protestant, Rangers supporting past, this is a man whose honesty cannot be questioned and whose every word must be given the respect due to an impartial, honest, neutral observer. Now, with his credentials of neutrality confirmed, he can set about doing what he's being paid to do: stick the knife into Rangers with the skill and deftness of a Florentine assassin whilst giving covering fire to any attack on the Celtic support or the club. But I rather suspect you knew that already.
  2. the poll should only be available by clicking a link which identifies the person clicking on it, so there should be no chance of interlopers mucking about
  3. man, oh man. Wolves, riverside vegetation and Stenhousmuir woven together as seamlessly as a Persian carpet . Only on Gersnet.
  4. on the plus side for the nation's gene pool, they won't be having any children.
  5. Much as you or I may regret it, there is no public debate or groundswell against segregated schooling at the moment. It is simply not an issue that most people rank as a priority or care greatly about. So to suggest that the SNP were 'trading' a bargaining position when there was no bargaining going on is just plain wrong. There has been segregated schooling in this country for a century, so it's beyond me quite why you're pointing the finger at an administration which has been a majority government for 3 years, 3 years in which it has been dealing with an economic crisis and preparing for independence. Even if it has the will to abolish segregation, it wouldn't have the resources or the energy to take on a battle of that size at this time. At some point you're going to have to accept the mountain of evidence before you - the SNP is not a party which cares particularly about religious affiliations and there is no evidence to show that it has allowed any RC church influence in any of their decisions, far less "pandered" to them
  6. There's no polling data to suggest that the Catholic vote in the referendum will vary markedly from the vote of the rest of society, so I'm not sure on what you base your uncertainty. I suppose it depends on whether they listen to the Catholic bigots, like Galloway, who claim they'll all be murdered in their beds one minute after a Yes vote is declared, or whetherthey listen to the Protestant bigots who claim the Scotland will turn into a Catholic theocracy at roughly the same time. As to the second point, I'd be interested to look at that data if you can steer me in its direction. The figures of which i am aware suggest that overall the Catholic vote for Labour has fallen from 80% at the turn of the century to around 65% now. Still a majority, granted, but it suggests that as the SNP was seen to be the only left-wing alternative, so the Catholic vote - and the Scottish vote as a whole - shifted toards them. I would suggest that the reasons for catholics voting catholic has more to do with the fact that Catholics were standing for Labour rather than some sort of sectarian motive.
  7. The rights and wrongs of segregated schooling to one side (and for what it's worth I am vehemently opposed to any division in sate sector schooling, be it based on religion or otherwise) there is no such thing as "the catholic vote" - that's an invented bogeyman. Any study on this subject show that Catholics vote in almost exactly way and in the same proportions as the rest of society. Now you're moving the goalposts. Nobody outside the RC church is sayng that they have any right to involve themselves in gay marriages - but that's not the point. The fact is that the RC church believe they do have the right and obligation to involve themselves and so they trumpeted their opposition to the SNP legislation long, loud and hard. If your claim that the SNP panders to the RC Church because they are scared of offending the (mythological) Catholic vote was true, then the SNP would have dropped this legislation. However, in spite of the RC church being vehemently opposed to equal marriage, the SNP still went ahead and legalised it, How can that possibly be regarded as an "easy win" or "pandering".
  8. We may have had it long before now, but it's unlikely. The SNP introduced the legislation years ago and was one of the first governments anywhere to come out (no pun intended) in support of equal marriage. The fact that it took a few months longer than some others to get through our legislative system is neither here not there and there is no evidence whatsoever to suggest that opposition from the RC church played any role in the timetable. In fact, if you look worldwide, it doesn't seem to matter whether a country is RC or not. Countries which have legalised same sex marriages :17 Catholic : 8 Protestant : 9 I'd call that a fairly even split. You keep saying that the RC church has a huge influence on our society, but haven't shown any evidence of this. Your claim is that Scotland is not secular and is in thrall to the RC church and yet you cite the evidence to prove the opposite; namely, that the SNP government introduced equal marriage law in the face of tooth and nail opposition from the RC church. If that's not the very embodiment of secularism in action, I don't know what is.
  9. So, if I understand you correctly, Scotland has had segregated schooling for over a hundred years but because the SNP administration hasn't dismantled it and completely turned the nations school system on its head in a time of economic crisis, this is evidence that the Scottish Government "panders" to the Catholic church. And the fact that the SNP administration introduced Equal Marriage into Scottish law in the face of total opposition from the RC church? How does that it into your argument?
  10. It is entirely accurate to describe a country as secular if religious groups are afforded exactly the same rights and opportunities to influence government policy as any other group in society; no more and no less. If you think that the Catholic church has any great influence on Scottish Government policy, then you'll have to describe those policies to me, because I can't see any evidence of it.
  11. Then your point was that a democratic government should engage in consultations with the various sections of the society it governs, even those with whom it may disagree fundamentally on various issue? Good. I don't see how any normal, right-thinking person could have an issue with that.
  12. The SNP does not "consult with its leaders on a regular basis". The Scottish Government may, and indeed should, "consult with its leaders on a regular basis", just as they will consult with dozens of other interest groups on a regular basis. As the government of a democratic country, that's their job.
  13. "war effort" - that's one way to put "illegal invasion and occupation of somebody else's country where we have no business being"
  14. or Number 5. We go into Admin 2 and King buys us for a fraction of what it would cost him otherwise. If we get docked 25 points, we are still likely to be leading the league and at worst in a play off place. It's more than likely that the admin period would be very short and sweet if King has his eye on owning us.
  15. The silence of all of football on domestic violence - particularly Celtic and Rangers - has been nothing short of disgraceful.
  16. this character is anything but neutral - his is a libertarian agenda which, if you follow it for just a couple of steps, quickly shows itself for what it is and who is behind it. What sort of publications does he normally write for? Who funds those publications? He and his ilk don't give a rat's arse about the working class.
  17. On the plus side, for those who miss League of Gentlemen, it also contains videos of the band.
  18. A very poor interview - either the editing was crass or this guy really is an idiot. If you're going to play to the gallery, don't try to hide behind a veneer of academic respectability and at least be up front about your larger agenda. By far, the worst article I've read on TRS.
  19. I'm a tad more concerned that a school funded by the British taxpayer is giving rehearsal space to an organisation named after a terrorist which has two Armalite rifles in its crest. Does OFSTED know about this? HTF can that headmaster keep his or her job?
  20. bloody hell; we'd need to field another couple of centre halves just to mark those two! It would be fun, but.
  21. Edu did not "jump ship". He left when he had no other choice, making sure that the club benefitted when he did - unlike the so-called "Rangers men".
  22. That is indeed the meaning - but my reference was more at you seeming to accept the received MSM wisdom on Lennon than on standing out from the smart kids on Gersnet I thought it might have been that - but the thing is that he had been drinking (one of his favourite hobbies) and who knows what had transpired before that. If you're going to say that he may have been killed because of his trade because he got into an alcohol related fight, then so may anyone connected with the OF. Look forward to it.
  23. personally, I'm enjoying the fact that is looks like it might fall round the ears of the corrupt tossers in charge at FIFA. If they did have to move it, the only two countries that could really manage it at such short notice would be England and Germany. The Germans have just had it, so that would leave England and I don't think the English are too favourably disposed towards FIFA.
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