trublusince1982

The question needs to be "how much money do you need to secure 2nd with a bit of ease?" £16m wage budget and £10m transfer kitty!! If you can't do it with £11m and £3-£5m then you should hang your head in shame. MW has been told over and over from those within the club that winning is paramount he has actively agreed but ignored that advice on the belief he can change the fans mentality. No thanks Mark I prefer being a winner. On a side note just out of interest the manager today said he's sure the rangers fans can see the effort and desire the team puts in. Does anyone agree with him? Are we that far apart in thinking that he can't see our players are cruising

One positive is a player who shows nothing but apathy towards the club will hopefully leave. Let's face it the manager isn't going to get rid of him MW said we would remove energy sappers from the club. Have never once see Keirnan leave the field having given his absolute all, not once.

Every cloud as they say

Nope. Not how probability statistics work. Could explain a lot if this is how we are also analysing player patterns

haha we have spent a fortune! Way more than was needed to secure second. Money is not the issue as far as beating hearts and Aberdeen. The board have backed the manager well

to fix results? A better manager, preferably not a novice. A tactician who can assess games and react appropriately while having the ability to fire up the squad.Someone who also agrees with "the nothing else but a win will do" mentality. Most of our problems can be traced back to the manager. We have £11m in wages and all in spent £3-£5m on players.(including the Barton payoff) what numbers would you like to see. Especially since I'm pretty sure pre season you said I was an idiot for thinking we would spend anything close to £2m as it wasn't needed. Apologies if my mind is playing tricks and that wasn't yourself

Do some still want to see MW given more funds to chase his philosophies? The last thing i would do is spend more. If double/triple the wage budget and £2.9m more in transfer money is not enough to win more than 4 games on the trot then i dread to think the number needed.

never mind chances if you like stats we are closer to bottom of the league than we are top. +6 GD for 24 games that's a hell of a lot of amazing keepers

no just every time a manager has less than 50% win ratio and +6 goals after 24 games

Agree with you there, its hard to do some times but the fans should be roaring us unto a winner. It comes down to putting the welfare of the club first before your own opinion for me. Watched it online today and sat there thinking we are never going to score but if i was at the ground i would have been shouting us on in full belief that with the crowd behind us we could get the three points.

yeah thats probably part of it with me too, think i see online as more for debating to form a reasoned opinion while the stands should be for helping the team win.

how do you feel about online? I am the same as you and hate it at the game but treat online differently.Cant really explain why tbh

remember a guy screaming abuse at charlie adam about twenty minutes in until someone told him he wasn't even in the squad never mind playing

used to have a guy like that behind me in the govan rear when i sat there . It was murder.

Not disagreeing but how would you get the point across to the team and manager that this isn't good enough if iys not the job of fans when at games? Its clear they do not agree and think they are having a good season.

yeah i see that, they must have been the first half stats or something that hadn't yet been updated, it was the bbc ones i used too. Saying that it was still 6 to 3 so who knows our conversion rate will not change, seems like every week some still just think its a matter of taking our chances and everything will be fine. Surely after 24 games you realise our conversion rate is not a fad or down to keepers or luck?

the bbc has 15 off target RC to 11 gers RC 4 on target to 3 gers No i do argue it. Their keeper made two reaction saves from point blank that were fired right at him. His punch from the one that fell on him was very good other than that he had a good game. But keepers have good games against us every week, its because our finshing is so poor not the other way round. Sorry Berliner see they have just swapped it round!

we had one shot more than RC on target and 4 less off target

we might as well just start cutting and pasting the excuses, or change them for an emoji. Its the same every game. Our conversion rate has nothing to do with luck. It will not change next week or the week after or the week after that. The keeper was not amazing the efforts were right at his body bar the punch because our players have no composure and just blast their efforts the way they face. RC wanted us to play wide and rely on crosses. We were never going to win, that's three attempts now with zero success. 14 goals behind aberdeen but any week now we will just start miraculously double, f*** it ,triple our conversion rate, I can feel it. anyway im away back to a dark room where I should have stayed

are you guys serious? we played for no more than 40 minutes the rest was absolutely rank. We werent unlucky, we should have been 2 down at halftime our finishing was the same standard it always is, shit. good night think i will call it quits when Rangers fans accept that nonsense as a decent standard,flatter to deceive at best.

can only assume this is fishing.

ffs its never ending with us. 3rd aint good enough, there can be no excuse now. Here's hoping there is at least a silver lining to dropping to 3rd and its the kick in the balls the whole squad need.

Its simple why we don't convert chances. We don't have any goal scorers and our tactics leave the majority of chances to fall to midfielders on the run. Probably the hardest chances to convert falling to players who are not naturally skilled at finishing Nobody in our squad could even be expected to score 20 goals a season. We are running on the belief anyone can score as its easy. Well we are being shown week in week out how stupid that belief is. Composure is an art, an art we have absolutely none of. We have spent over £2.2m on forwards who have no history of scoring or show any attribute that would leave you to think goal scoring will come easy.

this hurts.

the players and manager could all do with a dressing down. Its about time someone explained that our position hasn't been earned so far but bought. They actually think they are having a good season. All notion of them playing well should be shut down immediately. Bet today we see plenty of effort in the first 10-15 minutes. It will be one of the rare times we go out to play a game with the correct desire and determination in place, and it will all be down to the pressure from the fans. The mentality is for mediocrity at best, its watershed time now. Get with the fans mentality or move on to easier pastures. This team doesn't even look like they could set themselves targets that would be acceptable to fans, they should be ashamed of the performances, not swaggering round acting hard done too. The money invested so far should retain 2nd with ease (10-15 points), anything below that is failure anything above success. Anyone who expects less has left the Rangers mentality in the 3rd division. We should be easily winning 6-8 games on a trot bar the obvious game.