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Another significant step forwards in SG&Co's first year is that we left behind the 'provincial status'. In other words,..European group stages and finishing significantly ahead of 3rd place. We need to keep improving.

I don't think the Daily Bullshit printing batshit headlines will produce a queue of clubs who suddenly think you have to pay XXM for the player in question. That said, Lawwell and colleagues definitely conducted a fairly comprehensive PR campaign that always talked up various aspects of the club, whether it be potential fees or something to do with the mantra that 'Celtic are a CL Team' (stop laughing at the back). Whether I've not being paying so much attention, I don't know but that campaign of sorts seems to have been less intense for the past few months or so. However, it would be churlish not to recognise that the main reason they've made money on player trading is because they've brought through decent players and continue to do so. They have established a reputation of sorts (at least with Southampton) and last night's CL Final had two of those deals either playing or on the bench. What will increase the value of our players is their game, the level that they are playing at in the bigger games and especially if they are a major part of the club doing well in Europe, especially CL group stage (we were operating at provincial level from 2012 until Gerrard arrived). As a club we need to improve players instead of having them go backwards (over many years, this IMO has been our biggest single problem) We need to keep to a minimum signings with no sell-on value #veterans We need to improve recruitment We need to provide a pathway if investment in RYD is to pay off Don't employ Martin Bain In short, we need to be a better run club and it doesn't happen overnight.

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Damp squib of a Final that wasn't helped by the organisers delaying it so long, that the game was played in June. Good to see Gerrard there to sort out the Mane deal.

Poor but predictable from a struggling press. Takes about 2 seconds to determine it's BS and they post in on twitter, knowing full well it's BS.

Am I right in thinking that the football club carried out an enquiry or investigation of sorts in the 80's that ended up by casting stones at 'scurrilous abuse claims' ? Do Celtic really think that another private investigation will be deemed satisfactory or are they really struggling to contain this ?

You are a bitter man Trying to be objective,...I think that Liverpool do deserve to win it after what they have brought to the table these past 2 or 3 seasons. Doesn't make a blind bit of difference but they deserve a tangible reward. At the same time, Klopp is under quite a bit of pressure to shake off the 'nearly man' tag. For a change, his team are expected to win a CL Final. I used to never miss a European Cup or CL Final but can't say I'm that bothered about this one. Two clubs from the same nation just doesn't feel right.

Expect Liverpool to win it but there is no value in those odds. Interest will remain the fiver I put on Spurs to win it at 16's in early April.

No way Mr.MASH would sanction the bidding to start anywhere near 20M. If prospective new owners are looking to change the fortunes of the club in the EPL and are prepared to flash the cash, then they'd be going for a better centre-forward than Morelos. In other words, smells like clickbait shite.

Unsurprisingly, looks like several pay-offs are looming.

Delayed but eventually it came............

If Villa do come in for Tav, then it's hard not to see the player wanting a deal to happen. It'd be a BIG on-field loss for us and we should be holding out for a BIG transfer fee. IMO, as much as the transfer value of Morelos has been overstated at times, the opposite applies to Tav.

Here's another angle on the above Great run in 92/93 Following season booted out in first tie #Levski But won the League UEFA Cup Final 2008 Following season first tie was against Kaunas But won the League

Steven Gerrard was born in the same month the Iranian embassy siege in London was resolved and two days after 4 Scots were in the starting line-up for the winners of the European Cup. Rangers had just finished 5th in the Scottish Premier division !! Today he enters his 40th year....time for life to begin in earnest

I wouldn't take anything for granted. Think back to better squads having excellent seasons in Europe and what happened the following season. Great run in 92/93 Following season booted out in first tie #Levski UEFA Cup Final 2008 Following season first tie was against Kaunas

I only listened to the podcast of the Monday evening Sportsound programme but Stewart was on and the Scottish Cup Final fall-out was part of it but not in much detail regrads the game itself. Edouards dive didn't happen because they didn't mention it. Even when it was happening, it didn't happen. 1001 camera angles could have been employed but if you don't mention it........ Stewart did find time to focus his critical eye on nemesis, Craig Levein. After a shrewd tactical approach in the Final, Stewart still managed to call him out as Cathroesque. Bingo card didn't quite come up due to the surprising omission of an ongoing simmering indignation at Morelos getting a red card rescinded in August. --------------- I cast my mind back to the League Cup Final and a Celtic penalty that was incorrectly awarded. It was missed but that isn't the point. Weeks later when Stewart was on Sportsound discussing poor refereeing decisions, Rangers were named when pointing toward injustices. However, when it came to that injust Celtic decision, Mr.BioMechanic could only bring himself to talk of the League Cup Final, no mention of who was involved. * Point being, if you don't mention it, for many,..it didn't happen. Repeat and repeat and over time it helps to brainwash and marginalise. You take a glance at a site like the 'Scottish Football Monitor' and it's a similar pattern. A more accurate name would be the 'Rangers Monitor'. A place where only one dimensional thought is tolerated and that pretends to be a high-falluting think-tank for the good of our game. I once tried to give it some balance, but I was accused of, charged and banned for the old whataboutery. ------------------------- * Looked back (this thread Feb 5th / p.141) Background is Andrew Dallas and awarding 4 penalties to Rangers v St.Mirren.

English clubs ruling the roost again in European football. Taking over from the Spanish ? English clubs in Final : 2 English players starting : 1 Spanish players starting : 4 English managers : 0 Spanish managers : 1

Gave up after 20 minutes. More exciting watching grass grow !!

Isn't that what folk are expected to do at a Park & Ride ? #DoggingLite

Bert Kassie ...v... Occasional MSM hack for The Sun ...isn't really a contest, .......it's like Rangers v Connah's Quay

It boils down to throwing in most of (if not all) the chips... in a bid to win the title back within the next two seasons. IIRC projected budgets are dependent on European group stage football in 3 out of 5 seasons. They are probably dependent on a close to continual capacity home attendance. As well as directors and others financially backing the club when need be. Qualifying for EL groups last season was a massive boost in the ST and the loyalty of the support and backing from directos & others has been fantastic. Retail should be producing more but we all know how slow and difficult the legal process is against Mr.MASH. The issue going forward is keeping the show on the road and I come back to throwing in most of our chips to win the league back. My hunch is that the 2019/20 season is when we have to take advantage of circumstances and do the business.

Celtic do have a much larger wage bill than we do but their revenue is also much larger. It depends significantly on European competition participation and player trading. As it stands, they have several players who could be sold on for decent money and I'd guess that they'd be looking to move on at least one that produced an eight figure (or close to) transfer fee per year. What that translates into is that we have to catch-up, rather than waiting for or expecting them to suffer a significant reduction. Until we win the league, it'll be extremely difficult to make more than they do in Europe. Even winning the league is only halfway to the CL group stage. Player trading is where there is more opportunity but only if we can significantly improve our own players on a consistent basis. Something that I have yet to see in nearly 50 years of watching Rangers.

MSM Mainly Skewed Mierda

I think Pete is right to balance out the praise towards SG with some merited criticism. The context of it being his first season in management helps towards a positive verdict and I'd agree with that shout. However, he now has to show he has learnt from the mistakes and the general experience. For me, for 19/20 to be successful, this has to be when SG really makes his mark and show that he can reach higher levels as a manager.

Rumours always pointed in that direction