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  1. buster.
    Yes, I'd agree with most of that. Post admin., supporters didn't appear to have much choice (that was palatable in short-term) and it was those Bears who were in and around negotiations with D&P and then with Green&Co who weren't able/prepared to go the extra financial mile or five that missed their chance/ were given large fences to jump over. To starve them out pre 2012/13 was a difficult 'sell' and so there was little effort made towards this. 70M pounds later, many are bloated but the club is on it's kness. As a support at various levels we seem to get 'it' wrong far too often. Obviously it's a large and varied constituency which has been preyed upon by spin doctors. Over time, mindsets have been introduced and thereafter divisions, sown and nutured. As a club we are a case study as to how modern capitalism (employing spin in a BIG way) can prey on a football club.... Ally knew fine well that they couldn't be trusted but once the WS/McColl efforts had floundered decided to go with the flow, help keep the business going and his job. However and IMO the penny shares stick in the throat regardless. They say that it's aswell that Ally is there on the 'inside' but the reallity is that he's been of more use to the custodians than the support. For the support he's been like a 'comfort blanket' that in reallity doesn't exist.
  2. buster.
    Can you define "normal" please. I have an idea of what you infer but do you mean a suatainable "normal", which in actual fact would be something very new. Or running the club at a level that needed CL football to breakeven, which back in the day was normal. Or does it simply refer to breaking the hold that the corporate sharks have on us ? I'm coming to the conclusion that we are in so deep, so entrenched in spi.vdom, their 'onerous contracts', increasingly unhappy & scunnered support, no money, no-one prepared to pay the large sack of money that would be required........ that the outlook is very dark. Financially, politically and socially we are in a bad way and I'm struggling to see how, after recent history and looking towards realistic prospects for Scottish football.............. we make a full recovery.
  3. buster.
    It's not hindsight, I was saying the same thing at the time. There were quite a few (not all on messageboards) who saw through Green and his bullshit all the way through. More especially from some individuals closer to what was going on. Some of what was behind this wasn't any old bullshit rumour, but neither was it absolute conclusive evidence. John Brown was involved, knew details not in the public ambit including CW and what seemed to eventually turn into claim/Sevco 5088. As I said, there was never absolute information and I believe/speculate that Bomber took the decision or was advised to go down the 'deeds' route when on the Ibrox steps. I think some of those Bears I spoke of had decided to 'go with the flow' rather than have the club enter into a cash crisis. (as per previous post) They thought matters could be addressed in an ongoing manner. What I would say is that generaly the online Bears regarded as financial experts got Green spectacularly wrong. I saw them take in the corporate speak, the numbers, the IPO, the order of things, and accept it as in the main, a logical path for the business to take. What I think they failed to take into consideration was the capacity of some to bullshit. Nor perhaps have many experienced quite such a complex and misleading strategy from City sharks as we've been witnessing at Ibrox.
  4. buster.
    They committed to addressing 'communication and engagement' last year and have to be seen to be doing something. By not actually addressing it themselves in a practical way when it's a vital aspect of going forward within the current impasse, would be laughable if it were not so serious an issue.
  5. buster.
    "Plastic engagement" They should try some practical engagement when it matters.
  6. buster.
    Thank's for going to the bother of setting it up Zappa ! I'm in.
  7. buster.
    Whatever it "should be", the simple fact is that it isn't. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another thing is that when corporate sharks/players/operators/vultures* get control of a distressed business they don't let go easily or until they have sucked/earned* sufficient or maximum return. This would usually include positioning the assets to their advantage. * delete as you see fit
  8. buster.
    I wasn't privvy to the actual conversation but John Brown said on national radio that he had warned McCoist and others about Green&Co in the summer of 2012. It wasn't only Bomber who at the time felt that they had good reason to be fearful of the motives behind Green&Co, there were other prominent Bears with similar fears. John Brown did know of certain details / things going on in the background that placed his knowledge somewhere between speculation and enough concrete presentable evidence. Bomber wasn't the best man to articulate the matter but he seemed the only one willing to stand-up at the time. Personally I think that there were two important aspects to this. 1. There wasn't absolute knowledge of what was going on. Along the lines of, enough to know that there was something very wrong but not enough to put your finger on the precise plan(s), (Motive not ongoing detailed MO). 2. The club needed revenue if it were to go forward and somewhat similar to what the situation is today, the option to starve the club wasn't an attractive one to the great majority. When I say similar, it would seem today if the 'starve them out' option is now on the agenda of many more than in 2012. All things considered you can see why this is the case. So you could say that many of those 'prominent'/knowledgable (to a degree) Bears 'held their wisht' and undertook a watching brief with varying degrees of dread. They watched Green attain a powerful position through mostly empty bulls**t and many hoped that the club would benfit from the wave being rode. The more cynical had less positive expectation.
  9. buster.
    There was an alleged document re. S&LB doing the rounds in the second half of 2012. IIRC, it was first put up on the CQN website. There was certainly a poster on FF who aluded to the S&LB way before the above document. "Chosenblue" ??
  10. buster.
    McCoist was told about Green. John Brown being one of those voices and the only one who went public at the time and since saying he told AMcC, amongst others.
  11. buster.
    From a business POV I can't see a financially handicapped Rangers (with large rent to pay) being viable in the longterm. That's not to say a S&LB or transfer of asset and subsequent sale of TRFC won't happen, more that they'd need to have a plan B.
  12. buster.
    The term "a perfect storm" may be apt regarding our current situation, very much including the questions and motives surrounding the ongoing ST situation. Every dynamic surrounding the ST situation except (blind) loyalty points to the word, no.
  13. buster.
    1. Real (opposed to perceived) credibility. I say 'perceived' because he gambles on 'blind loyalty' shown towards himself as an individual. Those who are more objective will see something that doesn't sit right. Note. Club is (should be) bigger than any individual. 2. To be able and stand up and say what he often does without feeling a degree of embarrassment.
  14. buster.
    Time will tell. A time when AMcC may need good PR is if/when the club decide to terminate his 12 month rolling contract and he insists on wage deferrals being paid in full aswell as the 12 months salary that his contract entitles him to. The RFFF was poorly thought out and is indictative of our capability to organise without any vision.
  15. buster.
    What I have seen over the last few years is a willingness by some (who could be catogorised as pro-board) to make efforts to justify or see as reasonable, actions or plans from said board going forward. Up until this point, they have invaribly been wrong. Curiously this doesn't stop them from coming along again with similar 'strong' views or opinions a little further down the line. As far as the current situation is concerned, I can't see daylight either way. However, perhaps that is only natural given what has led us to this point or how deep the hole is that we find ourselves in.
  16. buster.
    Given he decided to continue throughout the ongoing soap-opera, I agree that he has been in a very difficult position wrt the politic's. In this particular area we have heard continually mixed messages to suit the particular moment in time. IMO some have been based on a lack of knowledge but others have been disengenuous for varying motives. I agree what I think you alude to, that regardless of his salary, the 1 million shares at 1p each given timing and circumstances, smell like old fish. IMO a gesture that would actually reflect the theme of what Ally often preaches upon would be to give or sell for 1p per share a large percentage of his 1 million shares to the support shareblock, eg. BuyRangers. Re. agent : don't know !
  17. buster.
    As a seasoned observer of the misleading spin and worse that has come from the boardroom alongside the money that has been syphoned off, one way and another and another. It would be an unbalanced view if I didn't say that the gravytrain is multi-layered and that Ally McCoist has spun and misled, allbeit in a different way but with at least in part, the same end goal. When people use "the securing the family future" defence I think you have to balance it up against what can be perceived as reasonable whilst considering if his actions have any relation to what he says.
  18. buster.
    Ironic that the most valuable player is one who refused to be transferred. Our negotiating position in a market where outside the bigger clubs relatively little money is spent, is a poor one. Bearing that in mind and looking at our squad, I don't think we could realistically raise much money via player trading. Given our monthly cash burn-rate, the sum total wouldn't cover a month.
  19. buster.
    When SDM took us into the hole from where daylight could not be seen and was prepared to take a pound coin from CW for an escape, it's turned out to be a long running nightmare, from which the only uncertainty regards the assets is the timescale. I'm afraid all the 'cunning' has thusfar been shown by the sp.ivs.
  20. buster.
    IMO this question should come before the one about on-field exploits. There are many things to take into consideration and perhaps the Financial Bears could map out what they see as a probable/conditional route through the next 12 months. Some of the obvious questions that scream out are:- - Where is the money coming from to keep the lights-on? - Will there be an insolvency event? - What will be the final ST number? - Will game by game maintain it's attraction? - How long will it take to get a share issue up and running and will it be successful? - Is there money to carry out plans mapped out in business review? - How deep could austerity hit us? - How exactly will austerity hit ut? - How will severe austerity be paid for? (pay-offs) - When do the assets go? - Do you trust who is in control of the board (including the Easdale proxy block)? etc.
  21. buster.
    Aye,...... Same process........Different Stage.
  22. buster.
    Dress it up whatever way you like, those one million shares and what went on at the time never have smelt good. I said a while ago, that as he so often talks about the support and the club being theirs,......why not give or sell for 1p a share his stake, or a large % of it to the supporters block vote.
  23. buster.
    It's the only option this board have and that is presuming that they get fresh investment in to finance the cuts and enough ST money to keep the lights on. As regards League performance, it's difficult to say at this point in time. Partly because of the Edinburgh clubs being in an uncertain place that leads to unpredictability but moreso down to our own 'Omnishambles' that is very much up in the air. The proposed arrival of a 'football operations officer' or DoF might kick off a chain of evens that sees some significant change but this appointment and any subsequent actions (including pay-offs ?) will depend on their being enough money to fund them.
  24. buster.
    I think you only have to look back at the CV of Butcher to see a polarised picture that points to why he has failed at Easter Road. If he can bring his players in, I believe he can turn it around full circle, or at least have a chance of so doing.
  25. buster.
    Rangers has served for many years as a disproportional gravytrain to those involved in the football operation. This contributed greatly to lay the bases for the problems that came along and the sp.ivs who have taken advantage by adding another 'line' for Rangers to become a multi-layered gravytrain. The business model and football operation at Ibrox/Auchenhowie should be torn up and started again. However the faultlines are deep-rooted and that is why light cannot be seen in our particular tunnel. The support argue back and forward but mostly, either one way or tuther, it's a route that keeps us in the dark. The real challange at present is to find a way that leads to the prospect of 'light' being spotted and for that light to be of benefit to the club, not individuals.
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