pete

With 500 from 800 people losing their job at my company between now and 2014, I am afraid I won't be in a position to buy whether i want to or not. I do not have a spare 500 pound lying around and I most certainly won't put my family into debt for it.

Did Green not say it would not be under-written? I am clueless on these things btw.

No we tried that and look where it got us, we must be willing to answer our doubters.

Only 3 forwards named?

Rangers are not Liquidated!

Trying to get a song including gloady Ntumba will be a nightmare. Thanks for that Elfideldo. Where did Gloady come from?

The thing is that every forum is a product of the people who are posting on it. It is a bit like a pub, if you walk in and like what you see and feel comfortable then you will probably stay. I agree that it should not be insinuated that other forums are lesser they are just different from ours due to the posters wishes. I started here from the BBC forum and sometimes read the comments behind the stories on the record and end up cringing at the content,so I don't stay for long. I certainly don't think I am a better person than anyone on there. We do not hand-pick the people who come on here and we never alter anybodies posts to steer the forum in any direction. More people actually pass through here than stay, so we are probably not their cup of tea. It does not make us a lesser forum, It is a matter of finding the product with the content you are looking for and feel comfortable with. I certainly don't think it is based on class as many on other forums could buy and sell me financially and on intelligence.

I think you are right on this one Forlan after all we are still waiting for the SFA statement on the 5 titles document. Sometimes is less more.

I am totally amazed by this Thread. In no way do I think there is an elitist clique or a snobbery element going on here. Simplythebest, Why you think you will be banned amazes me and I will back Craig up in that at no time have you ever been discussed on the moderators forum. We ask for one simple thing. Even although you disagree with someone, have respect for the person, even although you totally disagree or have no respect with their meaning. Nobody gets banned here for having a different opinion. People get banned for disrespecting other posters. Thankfully they are few and far between.

Excellent piece Andy.

Yes FIFA can take that action, I believe.

I totally agree with that BD, I would also prefer it not to happen but if it means we are in a financially better situation then I think it would be stupid not to investigate any investment source.

I used to do them more often as Stewarty hinted but I retreated on popular demand.

Agree, but I have dogs bollocks syndrome. I am barking mad.

I know below the dotted line.

Ally McCoist must be questioning if he's right man for Rangers THE Ibrox boss, and his players, were left humiliated after losing at Stirling Albion and he must now pick up his troops and get back to winning ways. Ally McCoist (centre) tries in vain to spur his Rangers players on Ally McCoist (centre) tries in vain to spur his Rangers players on YEARS from now, when his legs are bowed and his shoulders stooped, Greig McDonald wonâ??t have any trouble remembering where he was the day Stirling Albion beat Rangers. He should have been in the dugout managing his Forthbank side but he wasnâ??t. McDonald was away getting hitched and missed his teamâ??s biggest day. When the ceremony reached the â??do you take this womanâ?? bit he probably responded with a big, loud, long â??Yesssssssssssss.â?? But even though he wasnâ??t there to celebrate a famous victory with his players he now has two very good reasons to remember Saturday, October 6, 2012. Ally McCoist, on the other hand, will want to wipe that day from his memory banks. It was the day he reached his lowest point as Rangers manager. And it might also have been the moment when, and for the first time, he questioned himself and his ability to rehabilitate this wretched team. In the eyes of Rangers fans, McCoist has been an heroic, inspirational figure leading from the front in the clubâ??s struggle to survive. But they are torn. They admire and laud McCoist and still regard him as a legend. But they canâ??t stomach results and performances like those theyâ??ve had to endure so far this season from players who are doing their damndest to make Rangers fit right in at the pro gameâ??s lowest level. Stirling Albion had lost five Third Division matches in a row and were the bottom club in the bottom league when Rangers arrived. But even so, Saturday shouldnâ??t have registered with such a seismic jolt. This kind of humiliation has been tracking Rangers since the first day of the season. It was always going to catch up and envelop them and a growing number of Rangers fans are now talking loudly about their doubts over McCoist when before they did no more than whisper their fears. But as the manager himself said after the 1-0 defeat in Stirling, the questions and the criticisms â??come with the territoryâ??. He also said he can deal with it and that heâ??ll turn his ship around. However, the very fact McCoist is having to answer questions about his teamâ??s lack of tempo, skill, intelligence and desire will be cutting deeply into his psyche. He has always been his biggest believer and he never faltered when his skills as a player were called into question. Even when Graeme Souness, who was Rangers manager in the late 1980s, benched him for a long period, McCoist took it in his stride and with customary humour. He sat in the dugout, one time on a cushion, and waited it out. He got his place back and strode on into Rangersâ?? history books. This time, however, it is different. McCoist is questioning McCoist and thatâ??s significant. The one thing he isnâ??t is a fool and although he knows his players arenâ??t as good as they themselves think they are heâ??s also aware itâ??s his future, his reputation thatâ??s on the line. Players always say they owe their managers but you never see them jumping in front of the bullets when they start flying. Itâ??s the managers who take the shots and McCoistâ??s legendary status, his staunch defence of the club and his leadership in the fight to hold on to those titles which are under threat wonâ??t shield him for much longer. More fans will turn if he doesnâ??t get deep inside the heads of his players and puncture egos. They need to be put straight and somehow McCoist has to make them understand that in the rough and sweaty environment of the Third Division, swollen wage packets count for nothing. If anything they are likely to act as incentives to Rangersâ?? opponents, who will very often be inspired to perform way beyond their actual abilities. Too many Rangers players, as well as the rest of us perhaps, have assumed that anyone on £4000 a week must be so much better than a plumber, painter, bricky or teacher who plays just for the love of the game and enough to buy a pint after the match. It doesnâ??t work that way, as Stirlingâ??s hero Brian Allison, a labourer, who scored the goal on Saturday has just demonstrated. Every Rangers player, Alexander, Argyriou, Perry, Cribari, Wallace, Faure, Black, Macleod, Aird, Shiels, and McCulloch, who all started on Saturday, should be ashamed. McCoist, though, should be alarmed. He has already faced tests of his character since taking over from Walter Smith and you can argue he has won all of his battles off the pitch. Now he has to prove his doubters wrong by knocking his side into shape so that they might start winning with a bit of style on the pitch. Thatâ??s where the real test lies now for McCoist but ironically, it might just have been his willingness and determination to be keeper of the faith against both real and imagined enemies which has left him and his team looking defenceless. Circumstances meant that McCoist was thrust into the unfamiliar role having to deal with the SFA, SPL and SFL while Rangers fought to get a playing licence granted and he may have taken his eye off the ball. Inevitable perhaps given all the meetings and brinkmanship which surrounded that particular farce but McCoistâ??s job is with the team and players who need to be straightened out. Getting Rangers back in business should have been the hardest shift and winning the Third Division a mere formality but too many players are taking too many liberties. They arenâ??t great but they are better than theyâ??ve shown and itâ??s up to McCoist to impose his will on them all without worrying about feelings and emotions. But there is a school of thought which insists heâ??ll find that very difficult if not impossible. They say he canâ??t change his nature and become something he isnâ??t, a hard-nosed, cold and calculating manager capable of commanding respect and silencing a dressing-room as soon as he enters. Itâ??s widely assumed that McCoist is basically just too nice a bloke but he insists those who see him in that light are wrong. Behind the laughing boy, he argues, lurks the steely man who can and will make the tough decisions. Heâ??ll tell you that person has always been there and that he could never have achieved everything he did as a player unless heâ??d been able to take care of himself on and off then pitch. He can rhyme off the names of rugged, mean-spirited defenders who saw and felt his dark side but for his own sake now he has to let that character out of the basement. His highly-paid under-achievers need to see this other McCoist before they can cause any more embarrassment. If he does exist itâ??s time for Rangers players and fans to see his Mr Hyde.

Why can we now officially call Celtic a pish team? Because! They keep getting wee wee crowds. Why, are all the seats Green at Parkhead? Because! They are covered in moss. Celtic are going to introduce a standing area at Parkhead. Neil Lennon was reported to have said, he hoped it wonâ??t be in the oppositionâ??s penalty area. All over the European Union, people are complaining about paying massive amounts of money to finance lazy Greeks I blame Celtic for starting the precedent. Ally McCoist was over in Australia to audition for a new TV role. Unfortunately he wasnâ??t good enough for Home and Away. Read a true story in the Bild (German newspaper) a while back about an Irish woman who stole 16 shoes from a rack outside a shoe shop. Funny thing was the shoes were all left-footed. I guess Irish and left-footed says it all The last wee while, the wife and i have been into Rangers sex. It only happens every other Saturday. The wife croons â??thereâ??s a wee spot in your lap.â? Then she goes doon the wee Copeland Road and I sing â??Swallow Swallowâ? We then have 45 minutes of the Bouncy. (Okay! Okay! 45 seconds) And hit a crescendo with the Dam-buster. The wife then cries out â??Oh God! God save my spleenâ? And finishes of course with â??Youâ??re simply the bestâ? There is also a Celtic version. Celtic Sex That is a Rectum mass in A minor. Taxi!!!! Sorry!!!!

It does! On every post you make.

Strong talk going on here to join with Belgium and get a Benelux league going. Obviously the travelling side for players and supporters is not much different than Ajax going to Groningen. In fact many Belgium clubs will be nearer than some Dutch clubs.

Had a wee laugh at that. Seriously though, is the official Tennents emblem not red?

Surely giving people free(If you mean that) membership, where they had to pay in the past, would be classed as an additional cost?

Stirling Albion Forthbank Stadium Capacity: 3,808 (Seated 2,508) Address: Springkerse, Stirling, FK7 7UJ Telephone No: 01786 450 399 Fax No: 01786 448 592 Pitch Size: 110 x 74 yards Club Nickname: Albion or Binos/Beanos Year Ground Opened: 1993 Home Kit Colours: Red & White Official Web Site: Badge Dundee United Tannadice Park Capacity: 14,209 (all seated) Address: Tannadice St, Dundee, DD3 7JW Telephone No: 01382 833 166 Fax No: 01382 889 398 Pitch Size: 110 x 72 yards Badge Annan Athletic Galabank Capacity: 3,000 (500 seated) Address: North Street, Annan, Dumfries & Galloway DG12 5DQ Telephone No: 01461 204108 Fax No: 01461 204108 Pitch Size: 110 x 71 yards Aberdeen Pittodrie Stadium Capacity: 22,199 (all seated) Address: Pittodrie Street, Aberdeen, AB24 5QH Telephone No: 01224 650 400 Fax No: 01224 644 173 Ticket Office: 01224 631 903 Pitch Size: 110 x 72 yards Surely nobody is going to say that 2 yards in breadth is the reason for a full time Rangers team not being able to dominate a game against part-time opposition. Tannadice is smaller than Stirlings pitch and I have never heard the pitch getting the blame there.

Hopefully not we need to go down a new road and have new ideas. God help us if Walter Smith is the only one in the world that can manage our team.

I think Ally still could win that record.

Ah that answers my PM to you!