Walterbear

No.

...plus ET, a long away trip and Sunday fixtures on plastic when they return. And throw in a few injuries.

Kind of hope they get a little further in EL. Not too far but enough to create serious fixture congestion. Last 8 would be fine.

Shay Logan received racist abuse at Celtic. Tom English used to be good but he’s just like the rest now.

Our fans having the broomloan also helped. Never heard a peep out the scum.

Sensational performance. Will give massive confidence to the players, the manager the board, supporters and lift everyone working at the club in all capacities. The mood will change overnight.

That’s my reading Buster. Gerard talks about the big picture and I think the underlying issues are still there. We know where we need to get too but perhaps the early success especially in Europe has created a false expectation when considered with financial reality and the style we need long term. We have played 12 more games than Aberdeen and 14 more than Killie for example and we are only in December. Saturday will be our 9th game in December. It’s pretty obvious the energy levels are low. I’d take a draw against Celtic right now and recoup.

Leeds murdered us for long periods in that game btw although we toyed with them late on. I would agree we need to be flexible but build a particular squad to suit an overall style of play and repeat this through the ranks and that is MA job as I understand it although tactics in individual games are up to SG. I think 4-4-2 as a club style will be easier for teams like Motherwell to counteract over the long term but when Celtic play at a high level they destroy these clubs. We need better players to play a system that these teams cannot easily neuter but where necessary and for tactical moments or periods in a game we should be able to adjust. I think they are neutralising us at the moment because we don’t have the quality and SG keeps saying the players are not following instructions , which is his message imo to the board and MA that not enough quality is being brought in.

Would agree but we don’t have much money and he would be an improvement.

Swap coulibally a loanee for Shinnie and the midfield and midfield to attack transition would be improved with the bonus of shinnie being our own player. Throw Davis in for McRorie and have Jack sitting deep and the midfield would be transformed with a decent 3 in a 4-3-3 line up. Don’t let Morelos go until summer and hope our injuries clear up and we could kick on in the second half of the season. I know everyone is desperate to beat the Tims but I’d be happy to keep within 3 points, make a couple of decent signings and get everyone fit and going again. As they have EL distraction they will drop points. They are no great shakes. Wonder if SG has a wee Spanish ‘holiday’ planned for them once they’ve had a week off. Hope so!

We created lots of chances or openings in all of these games. Enough to win them all comfortably if we had better quality in certain areas. If you don’t want to hear it from me then listen to SG who knows more than either of us. We dominated Aberdeen, we pummelled Hibs at Easter Road, we could have been 3-0 up yesterday. Ok the Dundee game we were pysh but still got in a hell of a lot of good areas. Our problem is slow transmission. As I said it’s like waiting for a bus in the pyshing rain watching our attacks develop so I get the slumps and the slickness of movement and midfield quality isn’t there with the current players but the reality is we’ve had opposition goalies playing well and we’ve squandered space. We haven’t spent £10m net and we’d 6 months in. The best thing the fans can do is show patience because no one else is going to work miracles with limited funds compared to Celtic - and playing 4-4-2 and becoming another Aberdeen isn’t the ambition.

Can’t defend that ? Maybe I’m tired like the team. That side of the team used to be a strong point (attacking) and I don’t know what’s happened but has often been a defensive problem. Only conclusion is there’s no one better.

The real problem was the editorial staff. McLaughlin was given 90 seconds to do a report and even he was unhappy with the output

Not enough!

Nope but I’ll give you a ? ?

Agree tannoch - only issue is he took Candeias off and the goal came from down that side. Other than tired legs I didn’t get the substitutions. Again the CH position was key. That cross was good but should have been defended not just at the cross. SG made a mistake taking Candeias off imo from a defensive perspective.

Sorry but we create loads of chances. Hibs, Hamilton, Aberdeen and Dundee should have been stuffed 60-0. We miss quality in the final third to convert and quality building from the back to make quicker passes. The only predictable aspect of our play is the final third and cutting edge. I know we are not going to score because we don’t have players in space in the box. The real head in the sand coop is not understanding our financial legacy. This will take time.

If transfers are the only way to raise funds and we drop 6 points behind the scum on Saturday we have to. We need to refresh and increase quality.

I’m honestly struggling to equate the supposed bad tactics with the fact we have created dozens of chances this season we should have scored from. We created plenty of chances today but not enough clear cut with the tactics we used. It’s down to quality and that needs money. It needs quicker transmission through the phases. Except when we’re in the break our transmission from defence to attack is like waiting for a bus in the pyshing rain. It’s horrible and laboured. Even when we break fast it stalls. It’s quality that is needed not Derek fecking Mcinnes managing the team.

Our problem hasn’t been creating chances and good positions in the last 3 or 4 games or more, it’s finishing and midfield goal contribution. Lafferty isn’t a great goal scorer. Naismith would have been a far better choice btw.

Problem is obvious. Creativity middle to front and lack of real quality in distribution from CH. As soon as play slows down or balls are not put into space which players can attack the attack breaks down, defences reform and we are deploying tactics against packed defences because we are not quick and accurate enough ie we lack quality. The real measure on where we are is whether we can build on what are obvious overall improvements. The breakage isn’t individual players who are doing as well as they can or managers who operate on limited budgets given the demands on Rangers are to attack and win every game. The breakage is in finances for the job and we all know the story. This was never going to be a one window fix with a group of players who were not even physically fit when Gerard took over. The Mexicans are as far as anyone needs to look to see both the cause and solution to the problem. Unless we want to play like Motherwell and deploy 4-4-2 we have to deploy a modern approach. The judgement must be made ongoing after 3 or 4 windows and anyone who thinks we are worse or as bad as we were under Murty, Pedro or Warburton is wrong. None of them would have got through the EL campaign as well as we did all things considered and none of them would have had us challenging for half the season on top of that. Most folk said we needed 30-50m to catch Celtic. Not sure why that has changed to failure in what is less than 10m net spend since summer. The team looks out on its legs and has for a month. It needs quality and no matter what formation we use or what famous names manage the club that is the bottom line.

I heard from a first class source that BBC are trying to sort this in time for the OF game on Saturday. Lot of pressure from London apparently. We’ll see but source is just about as good as it gets.

Was he not injured for a lot of last season! He’s the best holding midfielder in Scotland apart from Scott Brown. He will surpass Brown in the next year. I’ll trust SG when it comes to judging midfielders.

When we start scoring which we will and if we keep playing like that we won’t be far away but we need quality goal scoring threat in January window. Whether that’s an advanced midfielder or striker we won’t win the league without it.

Absolutely. Worral plays like s youngster. No composure and constantly giving the ball away or passing to players who are marked. Maybe he thinks iniesta is in our midfield.