simplythebest 0 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Who owes who what? Perhaps if any apologies are to be given out, those who have constantly criticised, insulted and abused those bears who've exposed the chancers in control of our club a whole lot longer than the RFB, may wish to re-examine their contribution as well? Especially those bears who've continually backed various regimes and directors in the face of overwhelming incompetency. Or perhaps, even better, we move on beyond 'we told you so' playground politics and ensured we take our club back from said chancers. The fans board have been dealt a lot of undue stick and accusations from some quarters, you only have to have a look at their facebook page to see that. They were clearly working in our interests, there was never any real evidence to believe otherwise. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Barristan Selmy 222 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) The fans board have been dealt a lot of undue stick and accusations from some quarters, you only have to have a look at their facebook page to see that. They were clearly working in our interests, there was never any real evidence to believe otherwise. Apart from when the chairman took two clueless kids along behind the rest of the group's back. Were they not talking about removing the vote of no confidence recently? Edited February 17, 2015 by Ser Barristan Selmy 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie 8,150 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 The fans board have been dealt a lot of undue stick and accusations from some quarters, you only have to have a look at their facebook page to see that. They were clearly working in our interests, there was never any real evidence to believe otherwise. On the contrary, when one RFB member offers 'undue stick and accusations' towards those rightly looking for positive change in control of the club, then it was down to the rest of us to ensure such minority opinions were held to account via constructive criticism. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,329 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 The fans board have been dealt a lot of undue stick and accusations from some quarters, you only have to have a look at their facebook page to see that. They were clearly working in our interests, there was never any real evidence to believe otherwise. Most of the criticism on here was deserved and was constructive and it seems that the board took it on board, which is great to see. What we now need them to do is remain resolute and not to panic and rashly resign. They can do more good against this board by sticking to their guns. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Safe to say some owe the Fans Board an apology And at least one of the rfb owes several people appologies. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 As for this latest bizarre episode in this farce, well, good on the RFB for sticking to their guns in the face of unfair pressure from club directors. If they weren't already then the positions of Llambias and Leach are certainly untenable now. Unfortunately only to us Frankie. Untenable doesn't exist in the dictionary of the Board otherwise Somers would have been ditched a long time ago. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 The fans board have been dealt a lot of undue stick and accusations from some quarters, you only have to have a look at their facebook page to see that. They were clearly working in our interests, there was never any real evidence to believe otherwise. Alison did the whole board a huge disservice with her nonsense. She should have walked to protect the board she purports to believe in. I think we have been fair with them we have slaughtered that abject stupidity and praised the vote if no confidence and this. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrahimHemdani 1 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) It's not entirely clear to me why these Minutes were published on FB rather than on the Club's website as with the first three. However, it might be reasonable to conclude that the RFB considered that the Club would not want to publish as full an account. The Minutes do suggest that the RFB pushed the questions as strongly as they could and on this occasion challenged some of the less credible replies; and they are to be congratulated for that. However, regardless of the stupidity of the comment by Mr Leach about the Three Bears, it was wrong to include any comment that a person prefaces with a statement that it is not for minuting. That fact alone is bound to lead to confrontation with the Club Board; perhaps deliberately so. There is nothing in the Constitution to say that the Minutes have to be approved or authorised by the Club BUT: 19.1 The Secretary shall ensure that minutes are made of all proceedings at all meetings of the RFB, any sub-committee, and any meetings involving the RFB. In the absence of the Secretary, the Chairman shall nominate another Elected Representative to take minutes. 19.2 A minute of any meeting shall include the names of those present, a note of all votes taken, outcomes, any relevant notes of discussions and (as far as possible) shall be signed by the Chairman or chairperson of the meeting. 19.3 The minutes of any meetings outlined in clause 20.1 shall be publicised to the Members on fansboard.rangers.co.uk and/or http://www.rangers.co.uk within 14 days following each meeting. The Club shall arrange for the publication on the website. That doesn't say that they can't be published elsewhere but doing so ahead of the Club publishing or refusing to publish might be considered confrontational as Zia implies. If the Chair refused to sign off the Minutes or was unhappy at them being published on FB then that would be an obvious reason for resignation. Edited February 17, 2015 by BrahimHemdani 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,329 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 It's not entirely clear to me why these Minutes were published on FB rather than on the Club's website as with the first three. However, it might be reasonable to conclude that the RFB considered that the Club would not want to publish as full an account. The bears were getting restless and the RFB had to post the minutes. They couldn't wait any longer, particularly as everything is time sensitive at the moment. However, regardless of the stupidity of the comment by Mr Leach about the Three Bears, it was wrong to include any comment that a person prefaces with a statement that it is not for minuting. I've tried to find an argument that I believe in to disagree with you on that and am failing. Perhaps the answer is that it should be taken out and the minutes be reissued without the offending line. The board are adept at this given the number of statements that they issue and withdraw so I don't see why another organisation can't take the same approach. The board obviously see this as a valid way of dealing with things. That doesn't say that they can't be published elsewhere but doing so ahead of the Club publishing or refusing to publish might be considered confrontational as Zia implies. Good to know that they didn't do anything wrong in publishing them to FB first. If the Chair refused to sign off the Minutes or was unhappy at them being published on FB then that would be an obvious reason for resignation.Obviously FS has confirmed that this was not the case. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forlanssister 3,050 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 The minutes were released unilaterally. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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