buster. 4,839 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) "So much effort being put into posts that so few will read." Churchill Edited June 28, 2016 by buster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calscot 0 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Hes been up all night waiting for me to log in.Superb!! Wow, I don't know whether you are massively egotistical or just paranoid... You'll also probably get offended at that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
limeburner 0 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Wow, I don't know whether you are massively egotistical or just paranoid... You'll also probably get offended at that... Im both.You can pop off to bed now.Bye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 I watched a fair amount of live games online, some on TV, and a lot of highlights, but I didn't see it through an "Everything McCoist does is shit" filter. That doesn't mean I thought it was good (generally it was't that good) but there were some ok spells and ok games. Did you see any of the games which were reasonably ok? I think the only game I got to see live was the Newcastle game and that was quite enjoyable, although I did have a few beers beforehand and was on holiday... However, I do follow quite closely what's going on, and don't make stuff up or deny what happened. My opinions are based on fact and take into account what is actually happening at the club - so my eyes are open when making judgements. When the pressure on mccoist became unbearable we would improve for a week or two. Sometimes the first game in that spell could be great. We would then slip back until the pressure ramped up again. That was one of the worst things. We could play we just didn't. I saw those good games but fairly early the pattern established it's self. You always knew playing well was to much effort for the players and manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calscot 0 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 When the pressure on mccoist became unbearable we would improve for a week or two. Sometimes the first game in that spell could be great. We would then slip back until the pressure ramped up again. That was one of the worst things. We could play we just didn't. I saw those good games but fairly early the pattern established it's self. You always knew playing well was to much effort for the players and manager. I pretty much agree with all that. Where our opinions differ is probably the actual proportion of blame to McCoist. As I say, for me he's not great but when you take somethone not great and apply a load of incredibly bad circumstances to them, they becomes a lot worse. If they just keep their head above water instead of drowning, then they must have a smidgen of effectiveness. I would like to see McCoist get a job for a club with a supportive board and see how he gets on, and way can see his style of football in comparison to other clubs in the same league - I'm assuming the lower ones. My viewpoint has always come from the fact that he could not be fully judged due the goings on. His best spells were when there was relative calm in the massive storms. But those calms were still rough and full of squalls. My prediction is that he'll be fairly average, and partly due to the level of player, not particularly good to watch most of the time - but doubt it will be the worst in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Mccoist had advantages no other manager has ever had. Go look at what Gretna did when they had more money than everyone else. Super had the easiest job any rangers manager has ever had and still failed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uilleam 5,519 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) Basically, as a manager McCoist failed. However, is it not time to draw a line under his tenure, and move onward (and upward)? Edited June 28, 2016 by Uilleam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Which you can sure verify? Of course, your remark begs the questions whom he should have signed in his first - ill-fated season - and for how much money and wages. Back then he was challenging for CL glory and the triple. Hindsight is such a glorious tool to wield, isn't it? Of course you can verify it. We have the accounts. He ruined a good team in his first season certainly but my beef is about the lower leagues. Where internationals were sourced at great cost to win the 4th tier of Scottish football. You don't have to be plato to see that's a mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 5,199 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Of course you can verify it. We have the accounts. He ruined a good team in his first season certainly but my beef is about the lower leagues. Where internationals were sourced at great cost to win the 4th tier of Scottish football. You don't have to be plato to see that's a mistake. Anyone paying Ian Black 8k a week should have been hunted the following day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Anyone paying Ian Black 8k a week should have been hunted the following day. The list is huge. Kyle. Bell. Black. Templeton. Shiels. Law. Etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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