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Didnt see that bit. But your right about Owen - he is a definate to be in it - shocking player and on 110k a week aswell! He cant even pass a ball. Against Fulham on saturday (and on loads of others) he tries to play a neat thru ball and absolutely fucks it up by misjudging it and it trickles along to the defender.

PS - I can see Wenger just turn his attentions to the Champions League now - thats the one he wants anyway to put him higher on the managerial map although throwing titles away dont help him. But at the same time Liverpool will be all out to win that aswell to salvage there season so the double header between those 2 teams should be brilliant. The league match inbetween will have plenty of team changes.

At first i thought Mascherano was stupid and cost his team the game but after reading about it all he did was ask why Torres got booked and Alonso backed this up and said he heard every word, so if thats the case then the ref is a wanker for sending him off. All he got sent off for would have been jogging 20 yards across to ask the question and thats a joke although there is no need for him to be asking at that time. The rules of this "who can ask what and when" is beyond a joke and making the game a farce.

For Arsenal to win it now they have to win all there remaining games as Man U or Chelsea will drop points against each other. But yesterdays games rules them out for me. You cant possibly hope to in the title going into March and not win in 5 games - Arsenal have thrown it away. Drawing with Birmingham, Wigan and Middlesboro is poor - I can accept a draw with Villa as they are decent team and they cant win every game but the first 3 should be easy wins. They have ran out of steam and Wenger's decision to stick with youth rather than not buying players in January has been the downfall - you need depth and experience at this time of the season. Im more pissed off about Arsenal throwing it away than Man Utd being the better team. They threw the title away in 2003 with 2 silly draws aswell. Chelsea will be cursing themselves for drawing at Spurs, if they won that it was set up nicely for them. But they can still win it. Chelsea v Man Utd is going to be a classic game - cant wait for that, but with Arsenal still to play Man Utd they can still have a say.

How about just Derby

Its generous to give the UEFA away tickets at cut price etc but would he have been much better reducing the home leg prices so 20 x the amount of fans could have benefitted - the games have came thick and fast and all the home fans are expected to dip in further - a reduction here would have been a great gesture seen as we have been playing european games since July. As for the stadium development - is this on the cards or at the idea stage?? I read somewhere of a 700 million re-development which is bonkers - Liverpool couldnt afford that and had to reduce that figure by 50%. Emirates only cost around 300 million (only )

Some interesting results yesterday. I didnt think Sunderland would take 3 points at Villa Pk but that can be a timely lift for them. Wigan have looked ok of late but 1 defeat and they are looking over there shoulder again. Middlesboro should be safe now. Finally Keegan gets a win, it was a banker seen as they were playing Fulham, they still arent out of it yet. Fulham have got it all to do but they play the sides around them in the next few weeks starting with Derby - so they arent down yet but I still think they will go. Bolton should have beat Man City and are now giving themselves a tough task. Reading have 3 wins in 4 and i think will be ok. Birmingham are still right in the mix and have a bit of a tough fixture list coming up including Wigan and Villa away. If Bolton pick up a win or 2 then Birmingham will go down. Great stuff to have such a big fight going on

The SFA arent helping by throwing in another international game this midweek - ok i can see that the clubs involved in Euro 08 needs games but with title run-in's etc its a bit mad to take players from the top clubs away. We could have played Partick in the replay this midweek had the game not been on. But its also been a bit of bad luck by having replays in both the Hibs and Partick games. We just need to get the cup games out the way.

Tough one to say a legend or not but id probably agree he wouldnt be a club legend but he may be a fans legend (from that time). I certainly thought he was superb and better than a decent player.

Why play Davis right? He was doing superbly playing right side or a central trio. And McCulloch shouldnt start - Naismith would have been a better option. Other than that the team looks ok. No Hemdani on the bench again, he must be pissed off if he isnt injured.

See "Revamp Scottish Football" Thread, its in both here and Rangers chat

Thats coz we normally do! I think Arsenals win on the last game was there first win in about 5 meetings.

Ive got the choice of Scott Booth at Dundee Utd v Motherwell or David Pleat at Spurs v Pompey just now. 2 plebs in there own right. Booth lasted 2 mons before I had to turn over, and ive got to put up with the factual Pleat.

Yeah but there are far more OF supporters not going to away games than neutral supporters in the country.

Dundee Utd v Motherwell - tough to call but draw Aberdeen v St Mirren - Home win Hearts v Falkirk - Home Win Kilmarnock v Inverness - Draw Rangers v Hibs - Home Win Gretna v Celtic - Away Win Ive got the Dundee Utd v Motherwell game on live aswell as the gretna v Celtic game. The first should be a decent match but agreed the Rangers game should be the other. Although I do prefer saturday games. But tv always seem to only pick OF when they are away from home as they have the crowds to subscribe or watch it in the pub etc.

Anyone got the latest on his injury?? Will he make it back this season or is he out until next? Have to say I think we've missed him. I wasnt overlay impressed when he first came but he did come onto a game soon enough and was a good option down the left. Certainly would have been my preference on the left had been fit at the moment.

At least he is back in training. I thought he could maybe wear a mask like cheekbone injuries. Hopefully makes it back for Sporting Lisbon.

Dont remember him too much from the early 80s when he was probably at his best. My first 2 real memories of him are actually taking penalties - against Celtic in the 1986 league cup final and for Scotland in 1985 against Wales the day Jock Stein died. After that my main memory was that free kick against Aberdeen in the league cup final that almost took the net off - absolute belter. Its hard to believe its 13 years, i remember walking home from school and reading the stand where the guys sell's newspapers on the street and couldnt believe it.

Away from the issue, but this is one thing i wanted to do since I got my own place. I cant believe people are forced to pay for this without the option. I bet millions upon millions of people would opt out of the BBC if they had the choice and jusy paid for sky channels. It would be a different story if the BBC were the only provider / supplier of channels. When I stayed there I would pay Sky a fee as they supply a good product but the BBC supply shite. Out here in SG we only have one provider "Starhub" so paying the license doesnt bother me and they supply all the channels from all over - yet its a mere 35 quid per year compared to 150 pounds in the UK. If everyone just stopped buying the license the Government and BBC would have no option but to drop the charge - they couldnt arrest millions of people and it would have to go to a vote which the people would win. Yet again its another example that the power is within the public but nobody uses the power and everyone just leaves it to the next man. Its like tax - everyone hopes and expects maybe one day it will come down with the next man doing the protesting - but its only going to continue to go up and up and up until the masses finally take a stand. Unfortunatly to gather such group takes using the media to reach everyone hence why the Government have this under control and feed the media the scripts.

How's Cousin coming along with the broken Jaw?? - hopefully he speeds up and makes the OF next week. For tomorrow the left side is our problem IMO. Adam is rank and McCullochs form is poor but you know 1 of them will play, but id bring Gow in to freshen things up - its exactly what the team needs at the moment. It will be interesting to see if Boyd stays in the team now that JCD is back, but as Gav says if he plays lets take bets on when he comes off. Also its difficult to leave Hemdani and Thomson out of the team but Id go with: ________________McGregor________________ Broadfoot____Weir_______Cuellar______Papac _______Davis____Ferguson____Dailly________ ____Novo_________JCD___________Gow____

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Arsenal have been poor at home recently though - 3 seconds of injury time until the scored against Villa! Im hoping they beat Chelsea but cant see it - draw at best. They need Adebyeor to come back to form and Van Persie to find some. They are missing Rosicky aswell, when they have him in a 5 man midfield with Hleb, Fabregas, Flamini and another (probably Gilberto) they look a lot stronger. Hopefully Liverpool do what Man City did and catch Man Utd out. It would make for a better title finish. I can still see a 3 way battle though as Man Utd still have to go to Stamford Bridge.

Huge weekend of fixtures with the relegation threatened sides all playing at 3pm and a huge Super Sunday. Saturday 12:45 Tottenham v Portsmouth: Spurs are coming off yet another classic game following there 4-4 draw with Chelsea in midweek. They could have ended up with all 3 points had Berbatov's injury time chance not been brilliantly saved by Cudicini. Portsmouth are very much in the european chase and there away form this season is good. I think both sides will cancel each other out. Draw 3pm: Aston Villa v Sunderland: A few weeks ago Villa were in the hunt for the 4th Champions League spot. This now seems a bit beyond them after Liverpool finding 4 wins from nowhere. Sunderland have been relying on there home form but have lost the last 2. They sit just outside the bottom 3 but face arguably the toughest match of the bottom sides this weekend. Home Win. Blackburn v Wigan: The form guide here would suggest an away win. Wigan have been on the up of late and plucked out some good points. Blackburn have had a slight blip of late and must turn it around if they want to make Europe. This will be far from a classic and I was leaning towards a draw but i think Blackburn may nick it. Home Win. Bolton v Man City: Bolton are the current side who are cant find a point from anywhere. Now the UEFA cup is out of the way they can solely concentrate on survival. Man City have picked up a few points again recently in there charge for europe. This will be a tough Lancashire derby but I dont see much goals and a 0-0 is likely. Draw. Middlesboro v Derby: This game could result in 2 things - Boro's survival and finally doom Derby which has been coming since October anyway. Boro have been decent of late and are probably the better side out of those fighting relegation, they must be rubbing there hands at the thought of this weekends fixtures. Derby were impressive against Man Utd last weekend and unlucky not to get a point but that was due to the occasion rather than quality. This will only go one way - Home Win. Newcastle v Fulham: We have some huge games this weekend and this is one of them. Fulham have picked up 4 points in there last 2 games and did well last time out against Everton. The gap between them and the rest no longer seems so large and they would be happy with another point in the North East. Newcastle still havent won this calender year or under Keegan. They fought back well against Birmingham last week to get a point. They surely have to win sometime. Home Win. Reading v Birmingham: This is as big as the previous match. Both sides will look at this and think its winnable and will give them a huge chance of staying up. Reading got back to back wins before a expected defeat at Anfield but wont let that knock them down for this one. They will fancy there decent home form to get them through here. Birmingham will think the same that they could go to the Madjeski and take all 3 points but would probably be the happier with a draw. Tough game to call, Im nearing towards and home win but will sit on the fence - Draw. 17:15: Everton v West Ham: The home side have been impressive all season but are now playing catch up for 4th spot against Liverpool. They will see going out the UEFA cup and losing at Fulham as blips and will expect to get back to winning ways here. The Hammers finally stopped the 4-0 thumpings of earlier this month to pick up 3 points last week, but they still look a bit like a side who dont know each other. I dont like to say it but - Home Win. Sunday: Man Utd v Liverpool: This game is always set up for a classic but normally is a boring draw or one by a single goal. Maybe we are due a classic. Man Utd just keep winning at the moment despite a few iffy performances but Ronaldo is on fire at the moment. Liverpool are on a great run with 5 consecutive wins in all comp's and Rafa Beneitiz has given up the rotation at the moment and letting Torres loose with Gerrard behind him - its working a treat. I can see Liverpool getting something here - Draw. Chelsea v Arsenal: Chelsea will be gutted about throwing away the league at Spurs in midweek 3 times. Had they won that they would be level with Arsenal going into this game so they will be kicking themselves. Arsenal have thrown away a 5 point lead in the league with 4 draws on the trot that should have been wins. Eduardo's injury marred things at Birmingham along with a dodgy penalty, the pitch at Wigan didnt help but its been there home form that they have struggled - they should be beating Middlesboro and Villa. They will need a master performance like the win in the San Siro to beat Chelsea but I just cant see them breaking down a solid looking Chelsea side. Tough to call and im edging towards Chelsea but - Draw.

See what your saying Jim but disagree about Europe. Getting to the quarter finals of the UEFA and putting out the team sitting 2nd in the German league is a good run for me. We didnt expect that at the start of the season and this was after great games against the French and German champions plus the mighty Barca at Ibrox in the CL. Only one team can win the UEFA out of about 64 teams plus the qualifiers and the CL drop outs - normally its a big side and Bayern Munich are odds on this season but I'll look back at our european run this season and think it was a good achievment. But who knows where we can go with Sporting next up - a tricky tie IMO and a team id have liked to avoided. But agreed on the SPL and SFA Cup - both are there for the taken at the moment - If we get 3 points next saturday against Celtic then its ours to throw away.