Blue Moon

I thought it was a brilliant programme bringing back a lot of painful memories and it was an emotional watch. I agree, Darther, there was no bitterness from the players. What a great bunch of lads they are. I hope we keep Alexander after watching that. It really brings it home how difficult it must have been for Ally and the rest of them to focus on playing football. Hats off to every one of them but what can we say about McCoist? he was the glue that held everything together. Well done our Frankie.

I thought I read previously that Thomson worked in Belfast and made republican connections then. Perhaps someone can verify this or correct me if I am wrong.

I couldn't care less what the papers say. For years we were frustrated by these things in Europe but when it happens to the hooped horrors its cheating. Always cheated, never defeated. Whoever coined that phrase has never said a truer word.

I do not know who needs to ask this question for us to get an answer to it.

How apt is that now? Metaphorically.

I think the only thing that is apparent from these conversations is that it is little wonder that I am confused since nobody seems absolutely sure who owns what. That is a bit worrying when one of them is the CEO Thanks for answering. I really know nothing about all of this but am trying to keep up with events to make up my mind on the new regime.

So Charles Green was talking rubbish then?

So is this different to how things were run previously? As I understand it, the football club and the the business that runs it are separate entities. So are you saying that previously the stadium etc were part of the football club?

Thanks, Zappa. I thought I was just getting to grips with it.

Thanks for answering guys. I really struggle with all of this but I am trying to keep up. Why do they need a company to own a company?

Ah so they are the old Sevco? If so, why wouldn't they own the stadium etc?

Excuse my ignorance. I struggle with this financial stuff but who exactly are RIFC PLC? I am confused.

gs, I would love to have time to do this for you but unfortunately I don't. I do not think I have the inclination either, but if you have the time could you show me something good he has said about the club ?

I have been following most of what he says both on Twitter and here. I don't follow him any more because I wouldn't give him the oxygen but many of the people I do follow, follow him. You are certainly not a stupid person , so I can only assume you are at the windup here by asking what AT has done wrong. I actually cannot believe that Channel 4 continue to give this guy a platform to indulge himself.

No you can't But I don't see why it needs to be anti Green if it is representative of Gersnet. Ask searching questions yes.

Thanks for giving me this opportunity bluedan. I would also like to hear why the youth development seems to be going so badly.

Absolutely not for me. Couldn't stand it when he was manager. Very negative tactics. Would be the worst sort of backward step.

Doncaster is so disingenuous and gets away with it. No-one is prepared to challenge him. "These proposals will give the fans what they want" is utter tosh. The fans want most of all not to play one another 4 times a year and to remove the fear factor which is suffocating our game. So what do we get?

I felt the same about Black and Kyle and at the moment they have yet to prove me wrong. I will reserve judgement on Sandaza for a wee while yet. I was delighted about Templeton and atm I think he is perhaps trying too hard.

I remember when we bought these SPL players being surprised and excited we were buying what I thought were decent players. My optimism was sky high and I looked forward to a bright future of a new era built on skill, attacking football and giving youth a chance. There were many on here who were optimistic that we could win a cup or two. I don't know all the inside information necessary to come to a conclusion about where we've gone wrong, whether it is the players attitudes, management decisions, poor coaching, the manager losing the dressing room or whatever. But I have no doubt things have not gone according to plan and what we are seeing on the pitch is way below what my expectations are. I cannot fathom out what is going on tactically and why we persistently play these formations clearly unsuited to the personnel, why we play so many players out of position, why we play so negatively against teams we should be walloping and why the players look a shadow of their former selves. I am looking for us to go forward, to make progress and play attractive, passing football. I am not looking for the moon, just for the basics to be right so that we can build on them.

Interesting to listen to JT on Clyde on the players. He was basically saying it was the best we could get at the time. Individually the SPL players are good enough in an SPL team but collectively they are not good enough.

Chris Graham has said what, dB? Are you talking about the Chairman and CEO?

Have to agree with you, gs. It is uncomfortable reading.

Yes it is.

By including us at the meeting as one of the founding clubs, ECA are recognising we are the same club as before. They could have snubbed us due to our lowly status but have treated us with respect. For me this is not insignificant.