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Ah wuzz errr an' aw. Di Stefano, Puskas and Gento. What a privilege! Rangers were only Caldow, McMillan and maybe Millar short of the best XI I ever saw in the blue.

Fair play to Leggo. He's challenged Mansi to sue him if he's wrong.

I didn't know you did jokes, gs. Wait a minute. It's not a joke, is it?

Forgot about about JF. Another good example. Baxter was an experienced player with Raith so he like Laudrup don't fit theproposition though I'm pretty sure Baxter's Kirkcaldy debut would have filled the streets with jivers.

"Perry, Cribari, Hegarty, Black, Faure and Agryiou " Only Perry and Hegarty are rookies but you would never have said from their first kicks of the ball that they were the finished article.

You could be right, dB. Let's hope so.

"laudrup was great from the off" He sure was but he was a Danish Internationalist just out of Serie A. I'm thinking of first season ex juniors or schoolboys who do the business right off and carry on without dips in form. You don't get them nowadays. Even wonderbhoys donnelly, mcgeady and maloney didn't maintain their standards all the time. As for Fleck ....

Gordon looked a nifty player for a while but he and Weiss were experienced players. The players I named were all new to top league football. Caldow and Greig in particular looked like the finished article from the first kick of the ball.

What players have run onto the pitch for their debuts and been instant successes? Exclude experienced players transferred in. Eric Caldow - immaculate from day 1. John Greig- future captain written all over him. Willie Henderson - instant dazzle. Alec Scott - immediate scorer from the wing, early hat tricks. Mentioning early hat tricks I saw the debuts at Easter Road - (don't ask) - 0f both Pat Stanton (utter class) and Colin Stein (archetypal centre forward). How I hoped they'd wear the blue one day. Young starters nowadays need a good bit of time before achieving consistency. Durrant and Derek Ferguson came on reasonably quickly but they started in a poor team. DJ did not bad. Any others?

I thought Wilson was the best young centre half prospect since Ronnie McKinnon. Might he have a personal preference for celtic?

The following mouthpieces are thumping the tub loudly in favour of the stupidity of the new proposals: Richard Gordon (Stewart Milne) Jum Spence (Thingmy Thomson) Tom Irish (Lawwell) Also Graham Spiers (Unattached) Anyone heard any others in favour?

Ask a Geordie where he goes every other Saturday and he'll tell you St. James.

Lot of nonentities on that list. Missed out Ian Botham.

Any league where you play four games against every othe team is proven boring rubbish. They don't want "meaningless" games but Killie v St Mirren is always going to be "meaningless" except for the true followers of those teams. The competition is always going to be Rangers v celtic plus, in a good year, one other team most likely to be Hearts, D Utd. or Motherwell. Killie and Aberdeen have had a go in the past. Hibs never seem to be able to make it. No matter the size of the league table there will always be a mid table. Falkirk v Dunfermline will almost always be a mid table fixture. But the winner gets nearer to a respectable fourth or fifth and the loser edges closer to the relegation zone. There's a competition. Not very exciting for broadcasters or journos but interesting for fans of the two teams and for those who look at the league as a whole and not just who's going to be Champions.

"Gazza and Lauders were undoubtedly great players for Rangers but at a certain age you remember players who were even BETTER than those two (honest!).....'Gers reached THREE European cup finals and won one of them...c'mon the 'Auld Yins' on here, what about guy's like......Greig, Shearer, Caldow, Henderson, Brand, Wilson, Stein, Bud, Doddy, Jardine, Baxter, Dave Smith, Johnstone......etc, etc, ALL better than G & L, anyone for a pint?" These are illustrious names and very great players but only Caldow and Baxter were of the same absolute highest quality as L and G.

PG was a great player for "Glasgow". Whatever he got paid he deserved it. It's easy to recall the brilliance of his hat trick against Aberdeen but the guy was a worker as shown by the goal he scored against celtic when he made an accurate clearance from his own penalty box and got up to the other end to finish off the cross. Also in his last season rangers were 3 - 1 down at Easter Road just into the start of the second half. PG with a bit of help from Albertz pulled the team up off the floor to end up Hibs 3, Rangers 4. Thank you, thank you, thank you, Mr Gascoigne.

Excellent stuff, Mr. D'. I like your plan of attack. As many of us as possible must have a go at this but copying and pasting will devalue the effort. Nor is it any use to resort to the messageboard nonsense of celtic/lawwell conspiracy. I intend to contact HMRC to express concern that a taxpayer's personal details may not be kept secure having regard to the apparent leak of information in a recent high profile First Tier Tribunal case, to express concern that a citizen's obligation to disclose is not being matched by the Revenue's obligation of confidentiality and to ask what they're going to do about the Feenyunns in HMRC who leaked all the stuff. I'll maybe tone that last part down a bit.

The absence of a credible rebuttal of the issues raised tells the story. HMRC have no answer - at least no answer that they want to publish.

Harry Davis - the only man who could have strengthened the Iron Curtain.

Monotonous - bang bang bang bang. Trouble is, very few remember the days before chanting when there was a constant hubbub of noise rising into thunderous cheering and fallling again then more great roars of encouragement. No long periods of glum silence. The game was more exciting in those days. That might explain it.

Who? Leggat or CG?

"One member was arrested for banging a drum next to a police horse " How daft was that? He was lucky he didn't get his head hoofed in. What's the point of a drum at football. Leave it at home and cheer the team instead.

You're in good company D'Art. I got banned from FF a few years back for rubbishing the BJK farrago.

Lord NS may not be entirely worldly-wise but he's not too bad at purely legal analysis. Sets out the position very well.

The point is, they made their offer after it was known that someone else had made good the loss. On a rare occasion in my shabby life I've done a good deed but I've kept quiet about it.