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I was trying to say something similar last night but only succeeded in alienating colinstein and Gunslinger. Every time we think are at a crossroads with a chance to do something.... We aren't. It is always a mirage. We are ducked if we turn right and ducked if we turn left or go on or go back. The last chance of escape ebbed with the choice of the administrators. It would have been Hell with any administrator but we got (Whyte ecstatically got) D&P and so we're consigned to an existential nightmare of, to bring the ever reliable Sartre into it, "No Exit". Leeds United land with add ons.
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Is that the same one I posted earlier or are more coming out?
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For which I gave 8 reasons only one of which was a boycott. Look I want the baddies to be defeated too buy you have to be realistic in how things are looking and they are winning, hands down. You are putting faith in pea shooyters v. tanks and over estimating the amount of peas
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Jesus, ffs. I want talking about tonight and 15000 nit buying season tickets is not necessarily synonymous with 15000 boycotting, is it? I think online fans take the views of the forums as representat of representative of the fans at large. And I don't think they are.
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Kennedy spoke when the Ashley loan was accepted: "Reacting to Ashley’s move, Kennedy said: “We put an offer in but it was not accepted so now we graciously walk away and hope it all works out for Rangers.” What else was left for him to say? He put in an offer, it was rejected
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Firstly I was talking about tonight, I think you've veered onto season tickets. Secondly, in the context of the conversation above, it does matter - indeed it is what the conversation was about. Whether it is important in your view or not in other contexts is up to you, though it would be useful if people used the phrase 'not going for a variety of reasons' rather than 'boycotting' as we only know people are not going, we don't know why and I very much doubt it is all one thing. There is a potential scenario where we change manager, play well become successful in Scotland (I doubt it but it is possible) and there are large crowds following us but the Wigs are still in situ and Ashley has all merchandise sewn up forever. Or maybe all that will all happen and 15,000 still won't turn up and that will look more like a boycott or, at least, a mixture of a boycott and those who just got out of the routine (I still think it is a big worry that many who have stopped going will never get it back as a weekly habit....) But here I am talking about weekly attendances whereas I was talking specifically abut tonight. Semi-Finals beckon.
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15,000 are boycotting, eh? you know that for a fact. I want Ashley and the Wigs gone, I desperately want my club back.....but that's just a wild and very hopeful guess
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I see - well I certainly never thought he'd get it through, which is why I presume he had Kennedy primed for the Friday alternative offer which sent Ashley into ballistic bully mode I read something this morning just before going to work. I think it was in a Sons of Struth statement. It was a million more quid, one rather than two places on the board...and....bugger it, my memory's not up to it and I didn't save it as i was running late. Pretty sure it was in a Fan Body (SoS I think)statement this morning though... PS Or maybe UoF This from The Telegraph: The UoF had been notably silent as another weekend of turbulence enveloped Rangers, with Ashley beating off a £16 million takeover attempt by former Ibrox director Dave King, and an offer of a £3m emergency loan from Sale Sharks' owner Brian Kennedy. Last Friday, Philip Nash - a former Arsenal and Liverpool executive - quit in protest at the plc directors' decision to accept a £2m loan, secured over six months on two Rangers' property assets, in return for allowing the Newcastle United owner two seats on the Ibrox board. Kennedy, by contrast, had asked for only one, while King, in respect of his larger offer, wanted to control the chair of the board.
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I don't see it doing any good. 1) Not everyone will agree to boycott. Tonight's attendance would be low anyway, Tuesday night, on terrestrial TV, fear if we do win we are setting up a humiliation from them 2) Even if everyone did, or a large number did, opposition just makes Ashley more determined to get his way, it would seem from his history. His one wobble, the amazing 1600 word open letter re getting out of Newcastle followed by him saying on Sky he hadn't a clue how to run a football club (that'd be a good tape to get our hand s on btw! Though I guess he'd say he's learnt how to in the 5 and a half years since)
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Sorry, SC - I had just got home from work and was reading a very busy couple of forums and rushing to 'keep up'. I meant to highlight the bit at the end re "scaremongering" (I have done so now). I get your feeling - and the depth of it - but if people believe our crest is being "stolen" and Ashley is using "our own money to buy us" (particularly stinging after Murray, Whyte and Green) they've got to express those beliefs, surely?
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There was a clear alternative from Brian Kennedy. Though, additionally - I'm not sure what part you found unclear in King's statement re the proposed £16 million investment from his group.
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Are you saying these things haven't happened or that you agree that they have and we should just ignore them? it is just one thing after another and it is sickening and all but impossible to keep taking but sickening things keep happening to us one after another and many of them are being spun as great things for us in the MSM. Are we just to go along with that?
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Derek Llambias and Barry Leach appointed as consultants (by David Somers)
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Derek Llambias and Barry Leach appointed as consultants (by David Somers)
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Apparently Llambias is in Glasgow: http://i4.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article4519673.ece/alternates/s458/JS49541711.jpg He has claimed to be only one of many applicants for the post. Ah, starting with a lie - how very unsurprising- 140 replies
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I don't believe so. It is widely believed to be the case - but that is far from proof...... -
Has Ashely used our 'own money' from Rangers Retail to bail us out ?
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Has Ashely used our 'own money' from Rangers Retail to bail us out ?
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This you can say was their fault, though: http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-wire/video-ashley-takes-crowbar-to-sjp/
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Derek Llambias and Barry Leach appointed as consultants (by David Somers)
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I remembered that link too and went on a google search for confirmation. Unsurprisngly I was bombarded with links to thim sites. Holding my nose, and thinking I was doing my duty for ZAppa, I dived in a retrieved this: "“I put my hands up, he fooled me hook, line and sinker,” Ferguson, who was given a loan of over £2m without a repayment schedule from the old club admitted to the Daily Record about Whyte. “Like most fans, I looked upon him as the club’s saviour. Rangers had come through a difficult financial period and here was the man who was going to fix it with all of his millions. “What I didn’t know – what no-one knew until they read it in the Record Sport a few months later – was that they weren’t his millions at all. “He had bought Rangers with money from Ticketus, after ?mortgaging off season tickets which hadn’t even been sold yet. “He had paid for the club with money that was still in the pockets of the very fans who had put so much faith in him. “In fact, looking back, what he did was absolutely disgusting. He took each and every one of us for mugs. He didn’t give a damn about the damage he caused or the people he hurt. “It really does turn my stomach to think that he’s still wandering around out there, not in the least bit sorry for all the misery he caused. “Angry? You bet I’m angry. I’m even angry at myself for ever thinking this guy was the real deal.” Murray’s role in the liquidation of the club is often overlooked as fans bask in the glory of the trophies won during the nineties when the club was bankrolled by Gavin Masterton of the Bank of Scotland. Murray famously knew the schooling and footballing favourites of every journalist in Scotland but was apparently duped by the naughty upstart from Motherwell whose father was a long standing friend of the Ibrox supremo. “If Whyte was good enough for Sir David Murray then he was good enough for me, and the vast majority of Rangers fans, no question,” Ferguson added. “Having spoken to David Murray since, I know that he feels a sense of regret for what happened next. He was as deeply shocked and saddened by the rest of us because he was given assurances that Whyte had the cash required to take Rangers forward. “Whyte did have the money. He had millions of it. The only problem was, it just wasn’t his to spend. “The guy didn’t sink that money into Rangers as he had promised. He just sank the club." That mention of WhyterhatSenior and SDM came from a thim commenting on this : http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/barry-ferguson-how-charles-green-3143782- 140 replies
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McCoist given job assurances and delighted with Ashley involvement
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He became our chairman a year ago with the words: "my task now is to strengthen the board to the level that Rangers Football Club deserves" I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that this did not mean the shambles that was to follow, the lies and deceit over the period leading up to the AGM, the AGM and the fall out. This cost the club millions, on his watch, (it's not many months since we were told we were financially stable and anyone worrying about our cashflow was an ignorant troublemaker, he'd been our chairman for months at this point and went along with that without a murmur. He was also our chairman as we lost the Ibrox crest, pitch-side advertising and stadium naming rights. What kind of chairman allows this? A crooked one, He has aided in grand scale theft that we know about, far less whatever it is they are desperate no-one gets to see in the accounts for the last year. I take it too that "deserves" did not mean taking Ashley's offer with ruinous strings and board members appointments attached rather than Kennedy's 50% larger one without said conditions*? Call him a gentleman if you want to but I call him in the light of what he has done, In any case, I note you don't dispute the other one, so "gentlemen" is still a misnomer in your eyes too, I take it. EDIT: * Or without the same ones, at least, I have since learnt -
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The llambias thing is really odd as he has been saying he needs to now spend his time in London.- 140 replies
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