SteveC

That thought did occur to me!

Celtic will strengthen when we go up, too. And they will bid for any player they are convinced we are in for. I suspect they'll have a new manager before then too or, if not, they will get one for or arrival.

Mark W Frank McP

Agreed but I was not regretting to the past. I see plying to following an envisaged future scenario re "could have serious implications" for lots of people but pointing out that only we have haters demanding trophies to be taken off us and similar demands would not be made of any others (as we know from Arsenal's case even where, unlike us, EBTs were paid in a period where their trophy haul rate was dramatically improved

Murphy is one of the few willing to publicly speak out. “We were the victims and you shouldn’t feel ashamed, you shouldn’t feel embarrassed,” he said. “We were just young lads trying to better ourselves and secure our future. I’m not ashamed to put my name out because we’ve got to expose this crisis.” Oh my heart bleeds now, here was me thinking it was just millionaire spoilt brats avoiding tax to get ever richer and laughing their bullocks off at the rest of it. Now I realise it is just "lads trying to better themselves".

But no sporting sanctions, that's something reserved for one club only.

Also somewhat interesting is that other schemes of tax avoidance, like investing in film companies that were never actually film companies, for example do not get similar coverage or that there was no move to strip Arsenal of the trophies they won under EBT (and which, unlike us, were a period of unusual success for them). You Bears in Twitter and FaceBook land(s) should remind as many folk as possible of these discrepancies - purely hatred fuelled discrepancies. Bigotry in other words

It is a sickening rerun of previous attempts to mug/kill us. I hate everything about Scottish football, I dread every morning again. I grew up adoring Scotland and Scottish football. It's frankly unbelievable that I will end my days despising the place and the football, unbelievable but also undeniable.

The way things are going I can't see us being allowed to win number 55. Apart from having to overcome all the people in the game being against us (and the compliance officer virtually only bans our players, for example) I really don't think the yahoos could take it, they'd wreck the season and stop all football rather than be beaten. They've attacked players and referees in the past, it would be the same multiplied a hundredfold were we closing in on the title.

According to this MurraytheDestroyer will contest it. (I doubt it myself, but anyway) http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13944941.Sir_David_Murray_will_be_expected_to_continue_fighting_the_taxman____in_the_Supreme_Court/

Don't think they won one then, Crag just a Scottish Cup was it not? Though obviously I agree with you overall

That Spiers paragraph above re "prominent Rangers man in the media" seems dreadfully convenient for his blatant attempt to stir up title stripping fever despite his feigned objection to same. You'd almost think that he was making it up.

Sadly this is not how it is being reported, however.

There is zero chance of them letting it rest

He is also asking for the club to receive a "hefty fine" and pay his legal costs (which as you'll remember at the injunction led the judge to describe the claim for similar as "astronomical" . He's out to cripple us if not kill us off either for his own or someone else's motives. Scares me shitless tbh, we can't move on properly as a club with such a powerful force out to destroy us. We need to get away from him somehow but it is hard/impossible to see how

A terrible way to treat fans and now looking even more ridiculous than it did before.

I thought this too, Ian but if Bruno55's info is spot on then let him fight for his place. Anyone with that attitude should be encouraged, especially as he does (frustratingly!) have talent somewhere in there and we have a very slim squad.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/sammy-cox-tough-defender-who-as-part-of-rangers-renowned-iron-curtain-rearguard-won-the-domestic-a6716901.html? The revered English winger Stanley Matthews once described Sammy Cox as the most difficult full-back he had ever faced. There could hardly have been more eloquent testimony to the prowess of the Rangers and Scotland stalwart, whose cocktail of subtle skills, acute tactical intelligence and deceptive power for a man of slight build was equalled by few defenders during the middle years of the 20th century. An imperious left-back on the international stage, which he graced 25 times between 1948 and 1954, Cox was deployed more frequently as a left-half – a midfielder in modern parlance – by the Ibrox club, for whom he was influential as they became the first to lift the domestic treble of League Championship, Scottish Cup and League Cup in 1948-49, when he was absent from Bill Struth’s formidable side for only one game. He was an integral part of Rangers’ renowned “Iron Curtain” rearguard, comprising goalkeeper Bobby Brown, full-backs George Young and Jock Shaw and a half-back line of Ian McColl, Willie Woodburn and Cox himself. Having figured as a teenage amateur with Queen’s Park, Third Lanark and Dundee during the Second World War, the versatile Ayrshire man turned professional at Ibrox in May 1946. He made his League debut that August at right-back in a 4-2 win at Motherwell, then played in nearly half the team’s programme as Rangers finished the campaign as champions. Cox delighted purists with his pacy, confident, commanding play and biting tackles. In 1947-48 he was ever-present in contributing to the first of a hat-trick of Scottish Cup triumphs; he then he shone in the treble season and in completing another League and Scottish Cup double in 1949-50. He helped Rangers to claim another League title in 1952-53. His international debut, in a 3-0 defeat by France in Paris in May 1948, was as an emergency inside-left after Morton’s Willie Campbell, who had been selected for the role, damaged a toe-cap during the warm-up and was unable to find a replacement boot of the right size. Thereafter, Cox was granted 24 outings in the No 3 shirt, captaining the side as he collected his last cap in a 4-2 defeat by England at Hampden Park in April 1954. It had been a distinguished international career in which he had often shone against the most talented flankmen, notably Matthews and Tom Finney of “The Auld Enemy”. In total, Cox had made 316 senior appearances and scored 20 goals for Rangers when his first-team sojourn ended in 1955 at the age of 31. However, his top-flight day was not done. In 1956 he joined East Fife, whom he helped to escape relegation in his first season at Bayview, but he could not repeat the trick in 1957-58, when the men from Methil were demoted. Cox emigrated to Canada in 1959, playing for two clubs in Toronto and also coaching before leaving the game to work for an industrial bearings company for 35 years until retirement. He always remained in touch with the Ibrox scene, though, being inducted into the Rangers Hall of Fame in 2003, an honour he greeted with the heartfelt declaration: “Once a Bluenose, always a Bluenose!” Samuel Richmond Cox, footballer: born Darvel, Ayrshire, 13 April 1924; married (three sons); died Ontario, Canada 2 August 2015.

I have nicked this from FF (where no accreditation is given) as the BBC report misses out the revealing use of the "H" word. Where would a Polish reserve keeper learn such language and pick up such hate-filled attitudes do you imagine? "Proceedings began just after 11.30am with Mr Paton entering a plea of "incrimination," laying the blame for the assault he is accused of on a Christopher McClusky. Crown counsel told the court that the victim of the assault, footballer Lucaz Zaluska was not available to give evidence as he was in Germany. The first witness called for the prosecution was Mark Wilson, 31. After being sworn in Wilson told the court he was a former footballer with Dundee United FC and had left the club in January this year. The witness told the court he had been in Glasgow's Ashton Lane on the 20th October 2014 socialising with his wife Kelly and a group of friends including the accused Paul Paton and a Christopher McClusky. At around 11.40, Wilson said, the group left a public house on the lane "Jinty McGinties," and met Lucasz Zalusaka, a former Celtic team-mate. Asked to describe Zaluska's state Wilson said he was "pretty far gone" and under the influence of alcohol. The witness then told the court that Paton introduced himself to Zalusaka and shook his hand. Zaluska then said "you are Rangers" to Paton who replied "no I play with Dundee United." Zaklusak, the court heard "wouldn't let it go," and kept saying "you are Rangers" and "I hate Rangers,""I thought he was being overly-aggressive" Wilson said. The witness told the court that at this point he felt "something might happen" and stepped between Paton and Zaluska. Wilson said he then ushered Zalusaka away towards Byres Rd and advised him to get a taxi home but the goalkeeper then turned round and "started shouting up the lane, "I hate Rangers, I want to kill all Rangers fans." "I asked him what he was talking about," Wilson said. The accused, the witness told the court, then approached Zalusaka and "slapped" him. The goalkeeper, Wilson said, then stumbled and fell backwards against a taxi. "I was surprised it [the slap] would knock a guy as big as him down," Wilson added. Asked by the prosecution the witness agreed Zaluska had not "laid hands" on Paton although he had been aggressive. Wilson said he then went to leave the scene in a taxi but "within a minute" he heard a "commotion" and looked back to see Zaluska unconscious in the ground with blood coming from his head. The witness told the court he did not see how this happened. He then went to Zalusaka and stayed with him until he regained consciousness. The court was then shown CCTV footage taken from a camera inside a branch of the TSB on Ashton lane/Byers Rd. A man in the footage, Wilson said, appeared to be Paul Paton. The recording, the court was told, appeared to show a "coming together" of two people, however because of the angle only the leg of the second person can be seen. A further piece of footage, Wilson agreed, showed him and Zalusaka in Ashton Lane with the witness holding the goalkeeper back "to stop him getting to Paul." The pair then walk down the lane towards a taxi rank at the bottom of the lane. Wilson identified another person on the footage as a journalist, Matt McGlone, but told the court McGlone had not been in his company on the night in question and he had only found out who he was after the incident. There was then a brief break while a legal matter was discussed When proceedings resumed Wilson was asked about the injuries sustained by Zaluska and told the court there was "a fair bit of blood," on the victims head. Defence Counsel, Mr Lavell, then rose to cross-examine the witness. Wilson confirmed the incident occurred on a Sunday and the players would not be expected back for training until the following Tuesday. Asked by counsel Wilson said he had "four or five pints" and a "couple of vodkas" but did not think either he, or Paton, were particularly drunk as he had consumed the alcohol over nine or so hours. The witness told the court that Zaluska was with two woman and there was another man who appeared to be in his company but he had not been introduced to him. He agreed that it was the goalkeeper who "appeared to have an issue" and nothing Paton had said was anything other than "friendly conversation." "In a matter of seconds, he [Zaluska] appeared to get something in his head about Rangers," Wilson added. The witness agreed that that the goalkeeper had said to him: "I'll phone Paddy McCourt [an Irish Celtic player] and tell him you are with a hun." The witness told the court that he had been "taken aback" by Zaluska's comments especially given the crowded nature of Ashton Lane at the time and agreed it was a possible that other people could have got involved given what he was shouting. Wilson said that Paton had initially been calm but as the goalkeeper kept shouting he "became more animated," and finally slapped Zaluska on the face. "It was not a clean punch," he told the court. The witness said that after that he had left the scene having "had enough," of the situation."

Yep, possibly exemplified by finding myself both agreeing with you and those who argued with your observation. Despite agreeing with many of their points I do feel it has become a bit embarrassingly stretched out with the same answer trotted out to the interview questions. But that's part of the point, if it weren't for the weekly question and answer and this was all just going in unmentioned, it'd not seem embarrassing.

First I have heard of this, thanks for the info

According to this zoomer we should be hoping for the opposite (WARNING: tim blog, you'll need a strong stomach): http://www.onfieldsofgreen.com/sevco-face-being-gavelled-out-of-existence/

"One of the joys of being in London is that folks come to see me from the Square Mile bearing documents of great interest. I shall not name my City Source. But I have obtained documents showing why the £10 million claim by Law Financial against Rangers (RFC) is utterly bogus, that Worthington (WRN) knows it is bogus and how Worthington boss Doug Ware tried to line his own pockets in an obscene fashion at the expense of Worthington going behind the back of poor Aiden Earley and Craig Whyte. The documents I now possess are from 7 June 2013. On that day Worthington CEO Doug Ware contacted the then Nomad to Rangers FC, Cenkos, offering to settle the outstanding Law Financial litigation which you will remember that Worthington values at £10 million. Ware stresses that Whyte and Earley know nothing of his approach and asks the Cenkos chappy (Jim Durking) not to reveal what is proposed. Ware admits that Worthington is on the “point of an insolvent liquidation”. That rather contrasts with what Ware was telling investors via RNS statements. And on that basis he offers to sell Law Financial to Rangers for just £475,000 in cash to make the problem go away. Actually that would not be £475,000 because Rangers would have been given – as part of this deal - £345,000 of convertible loan notes which came with a first charge on the one assets Worthington then owned that had any value – its old factory in Keighley Yorkshire which was worth c£500,000. And so the net cost to Rangers to get rid of this litigation would have been just £130,000 – for that it would have owned all of Law Financial. There are however a few other conditions. Ware suggests that an independent tribunal look at the claim and if it is worth any more the difference be paid inRrangers shares at a later date. Ware also asks for a few other minor matters. Notably that he be appointed as a Non-Executive Deputy Chairman of Rangers (RFC) on a salary of £120,000 per annum plus expenses plus a golden handshake payment in cash up to the non-taxable limit plus a share option deal on a par with the executive directors of Rangers. Oh and that Doug’s pal from Worthington Richard Spurway should also get a £150,000 one off payment in the most tax efficient way or be employed at £40,000 per year until retirement and that Spurway get 500,000 share options in Rangers as well. My source confirms that Cenkos was not greatly taken with this proposal. So what does this tell us? 1. Doug Ware is a greedy bastard who wished to line his own pockets at the expense of shareholders in Worthington. Those shareholders – including poor Aiden Earley and Craig Whyte – should sack him at once. 2. Worthington was insolvent but neglected to tell its shareholders this as it should have done under LSE Rules 3. Worthington was happy to sell its claim for just £130,000 in cash plus perhaps a few Rangers shares at a later date. Yet it has repeatedly insisted that its claim is worth £10 million. Of course it is not. The claims are groundless as we all know" http://www.shareprophets.com/views/15443/explosive-exclusive-why-the-10-million-claim-by-worthington-on-rangers-is-bogus-and-how-doug-ware-tried-to-line-his-pockets-with-rangers-cash

A warm welcome to you, boabie. The guys (& gals!) here are much more welcoming and accommodating than any of the other Rangers' forums I have been/am on. Heck, I've never even been banned from here Generally speaking you are allowed your point of view without being jumped upon. Of course we all have our moments, me included, but they are few and far between and considering what we've been through in recent years that's quite a testament to this board.

It's a pity one can only press the agree button once