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  1. Is he not up here to promote his book??
  2. RANGERS' new lawyers could end up £50MILLION out of pocket in a legal fight with their insurance broker. Collyer Bristow â?? hired by Gers owner Craig Whyte to help him take over the club â?? face financial meltdown if courts rule against them in the dispute with Lockton Companies International. The move comes as the club face their own cash nightmare over a separate £49million battle with the taxman over payments and loans made to players. Rangers have admitted if they lose the case it could force them into administration â?? one step from going bust. The Old Firm giants took on Collyer Bristow after Whyte heaped praise on their work when he bought the club from Sir David Murray. And he named the firm's partner Gary Withey the club's company secretary after the deal in May. Last night a Collyer Bristow spokesman said: "We believe the chances of 'collapse' are extremely remote." Rangers officials declined to comment on the case. Read more: http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/3855273/Rangers-lawyers-in-50m-legal-row.html#ixzz1a2wP1uEy
  3. Paul Gascoigne (Gazza) - My Time At Glasgow Rangers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqiwAA5nKDk
  4. Rangers 3 Aberdeen 1 8IAR - The Gazza Show
  5. Wayne Rooney's father is one of nine men who has been arrested in a probe into betting irregularities, BBC Scotland understands. Wayne Rooney Sr and seven other men were held at addresses in Merseyside. Motherwell FC player Steve Jennings was arrested at his home in Glasgow. Police said the men had been arrested for conspiracy to defraud. The probe relates to alleged betting irregularities surrounding a game between Motherwell and Hearts. Concerns about the game, on 14 December 2010, were raised by the Association of British Bookmakers after a number of bets from the Liverpool area were placed on there being a sending off. During the match Jennings, who had already been booked, was shown a straight red card for foul and abusive language aimed at referee Stevie O'Reilly late in the 2-1 home defeat. 'Suspicious betting' The 26-year-old, who is from Liverpool and joined Motherwell from Tranmere two years ago, has denied any wrongdoing. It is believed that Manchester United and England striker Rooney's uncle Richie, 54, was also among those detained. Stewart Regan, SFA chief executive, said: "While the investigation involves several other individuals outwith Scotland, it is important to stress that the evidence gathered throughout this thorough period of investigation has involved only one Scottish match. Interview - SFA chief executive Stewart Regan "Motherwell FC are aware of the situation and will issue a response in due course." In a statement, Merseyside Police said: "Detectives have today executed warrants at 10 addresses across Merseyside and Glasgow and arrested nine men as part of an investigation into suspicious betting activity. "The arrests are the culmination of a joint operation with the Gambling Commission and the nine who have been arrested for conspiracy to defraud are being interviewed by detectives. "Those arrested are a 29-year-old from Bootle, a 48-year-old from West Derby, a 54-year-old from Norris Green, a 26-year-old from Croxteth, a 22-year-old from Kirkdale, a 31-year-old from Litherland, a 68-year-old from Fazakerley, a 36-year-old from Kirkby and a 26-year-old from Glasgow. "The investigation relates to a match between Motherwell and Hearts on December 14 2010." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-15196761
  6. Sorry for the late reply,I've just seen it. Of course it's against the law,what I think is wrong is if he loses his season ticket because of this!!!.
  7. A man who posted threatening and abusive messages against Celtic manager Neil Lennon on Facebook has been given a 12-month community payback order. Robert Rollie, 39, from Cumnock, East Ayrshire, admitted posting comments on a page targeting Mr Lennon on 14 March. The Rangers fan was arrested after a police task force, formed after March's so-called Old Firm shame game, began reviewing social networking sites. At Glasgow Sheriff Court, Rollie was told his conduct had been disgraceful. 'Shoot him' The court was told that Rollie posted his comments on the Facebook page "Neil Lennon should be sacked and jailed for racism". Continue reading the main story â??Start Quote There is no room in a modern Scotland for the views expressed by you and othersâ? Sheriff Martin Jones QC His comments demanded that the Celtic manager be sacked and sent back to Ireland. Rollie also used abusive terms towards Mr Lennon, stating: "Shoot him". He was interviewed by police on 27 March, during which he said he had no recollection of posting the messages. Rollie accepted, however, that they could only have been posted by him and that they appeared to be targeted at Neil Lennon. Sheriff Martin Jones QC told him: "Your behaviour on this particular date online or otherwise is quite disgraceful. "As I have said to others there is no room in a modern Scotland for the views expressed by you and others." He added: "Taking account of the fact that you are a first offender and have a good work record and have never been in any sort of trouble I intend to deal with this by way of a non custodial penalty." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-15197744
  8. Possible,however I can't comment on either as the only time I see them is when they are playing against the,3IAR, champions. And going on that basis Wylde should be in before the two of them,him being a champion and all that:smile:
  9. THE SNP government's controversial plan to crack down on bigotry in football was dealt a huge blow yesterday - by Scotland's leading anti-sectarianism organisation. Campaign group Nil By Mouth said they wanted "less grandstanding and more understanding" from Alex Salmond. Their refusal to endorse the Offensive Behaviour at Football Bill is the latest setback for one of the First Minister's flagship policies. And it comes just a day after the Rt Rev Philip Tartaglia, Bishop of Paisley, called for the Bill to be delayed, claiming it had caused a "serious chill in relations" between the Catholic Church and the SNP. The Record can also reveal that previously supportive Labour MSPs are becoming "more sceptical" about the legislation. Last night, the party called on Holyrood's presiding officer Tricia Marwick to rule whether the Bill was legal - after warnings it may be at odds with European human rights laws. Nil By Mouth - who were formed after the sectarian murder of Celtic fan Mark Scott in 1995 - have campaigned for tougher laws in the past. But yesterday campaign director Dave Scott said: "We feel the legislation is robust as it is at the moment." He said he didn't think the Bill would "add" to current laws. Scott said: "We want to make sure the problem is tackled effectively. We want to see less grandstanding and more understanding. "We've become increasingly concerned and frustrated at the way this Bill is progressing and the fact that the debate has been limited to football. "I think people are confused as to what the Bill is supposed to do and it would be a mistake to allow this complex and deep-seated issue to be confined to football. "We have seen evidence of sectarianism in schools, communities and workplaces across Scotland and it affects people from all traditions." Nil By Mouth were at the forefront of the campaign to give yobs tougher sentences for crimes "aggravated" by sectarian hatred. Since new laws were introduced eight years ago, more than 2000 bigots have been convicted. The latest attempt to crack down on sectarian football fans also faces stinging criticisms in a Holyrood committee report due out tomorrow. It highlights confusion over what amounts to "offensive" behaviour and warns the Bill could clash with human rights laws. The criticism is doubly embarrassing for the government because SNP MSPs dominate the committee. The Bill was already branded a "distraction" in a strongly worded letter from Bishop Tartaglia to the First Minister. He accused ministers of concealing statistics showing the scale of anti-Catholic sectarianism in the wider Scottish society - and he warned the SNP risked losing "the confidence of the Catholic community". Under the proposed Bill, yobs will face up to five years in jail for offensive singing, chanting or gesturing. But the plans have caused confusion and anger among fans. In June, community safety minister Roseanna Cunningham said fans who sang the national anthem or made the sign of the cross in an "aggressive" way could face jail. Salmond attempted to rally support for the Bill last week after both Rangers and Celtic supporters unfurled banners voicing opposition. He told MSPs the future of Scottish football was at risk if they refused to back the plans. But last night, Labour sources said they were considering voting against the Bill. The party's justice spokesman James Kelly said: "We want to support tough, effective laws to tackle sectarianism - but we refuse to back bad or illegal legislation." He wrote to the presiding officer after the Scottish Human Rights Commission warned the Bill could breach human rights laws, which say people should understand clearly what is and is not a criminal offence. They also said it was unclear whether the Bill would infringe people's freedom of speech. Another Labour MSP said: "We have not reached a final position as yet but it is fair to say that as we've seen more evidence over the summer we have become more sceptical. "If the government were doing something we believed would be effective we would have no hesitation in standing alongside them. "But we have serious concerns. "The whole situation is actually making the atmosphere at football matches worse right now." A Scottish government spokesman said Salmond would meet Bishop Tartaglia tomorrow and show him as-yet unpublished legal guidelines on the Bill. He said: "We are confident that we can allay concerns about the Bill." The spokesman added there was "no intention to restrict freedom of speech" with the legislation. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/2011/10/06/snp-s-flagship-laws-tackling-bigotry-in-football-are-blasted-by-leading-anti-sectarian-group-86908-23470273/
  10. CELTIC’S Europa League group could be plunged into chaos today. Sion have won a ruling in the Swiss court of Vaud ordering UEFA to reinstate them to the competition. A Swiss judge, who claimed that European football’s governing body had abused their rights, ordered that Sion had to be placed back in the Europa League with immediate effect and UEFA were ordered to pay the court costs and 1,000 Swiss Francs for every day that they refuse to let the Swiss club back in. UEFA refused to make an official comment yesterday apart from saying they will study the decision and then release a statement today. Sion president Christian Constantin is confident UEFA will have to bow to the Swiss courts because if they don’t then it could cause problems for them since their headquarters and registered offices are base in Nyon, Switzerland. Sion were kicked out of the competition for breaking a FIFA transfer embargo and fielding ineligible players in their play-off round win over Celtic – although they claimed they hadn’t broken any rules. The Hoops, who are already two fixtures into their Europa League group campaign, were given their place alongside Atletico Madrid, Rennes and Udinese. It now remains to be seen whether UEFA abide by the court’s decision and bring Sion back in. That would cause major issues as UEFA would either have to kick Celtic out or look at the possibility of a five-team group, with additional fixtures. http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/275834/Celtic-face-Euro-chaos-
  11. COPS are hunting bigots who chanted sectarian songs at Hearts' powderkeg match against Celtic. Rogue Hoops fans have been accused of singing pro-IRA anthems as Jambos rivals belted out anti-Catholic tunes. The hatred on the terraces at Tynecastle on Sunday came as guards threw a ring of steel around Bhoys boss Neil Lennon after a Hearts fan lunged at him in the dugout last season. Now Lothian and Borders Police are investigating the chants after receiving complaints about both sets of supporters during the Edinburgh club's shock 2-0 win. Last night, a Hearts spokesman said: "We are keen to ensure all supporters benefit from a safe and welcoming environment at Tynecastle. The club will not tolerate any kind of threatening or sectarian behaviour." Celtic fans were also said to have made obscene gestures at a schoolboy team during a half-time lap of honour. Jambos yobs were seen wearing masks of John Wilson, 26 — the hooligan who was jailed for his pitch invasion and bust-up with Lennon in May. Last night, a police spokesman said: "We are investigating complaints about sectarian songs.Anyone found to be committing an offence will be brought to justice." One fan has been charged with an alleged sectarian breach of the peace. No one from Celtic was available for comment. Read more: http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/3855404/Police-probe-on-soccer-bigots.html#ixzz1Zyqo8UPy
  12. Venue: Rheinpark Stadion, Vaduz Date: Saturday 8 October Kick-off: 1830 BST Coverage: Live on BBC 2 Scotland, BBC Radio Scotland 810mw, BBC Sport website (UK users only) Wigan's James McArthur has been called up for Scotland's Euro 2012 double header against Liechtenstein and Spain after Robert Snodgrass withdrew with an ankle injury. Meanwhile, captain Darren Fletcher could be a fitness doubt after being hit by tonsillitis. The midfielder has not travelled and will be assessed by Scottish Football Association medical staff on Wednesday. Craig Levein's side travel to Vaduz on Thursday ahead of Saturday's tie. Snodgrass is the third player to pull out of the squad after Blackpool pair Stephen Crainey and Matt Gilks, who were replaced by Lee Wallace and Cammy Bell. Scotland assistant manager Peter Houston also says "it will be difficult" for Kenny Miller to be fit to face Liechtenstein. But Houston is "hopeful" that the striker will make Tuesday's game against Spain despite the groin injury that forced him out of Cardiff's weekend match. Scotland's Euro 2012 campaign so far "Certainly, Kenny is more than hopeful and is still progressing," said assistant Houston. "No-one knows their own body better than himself." Miller suffered a groin injury that forced him off early in Cardiff's npower Championship defeat by Hull City, but he is working with the Scotland physios and plans to travel with the squad when they fly out for the double header on Thursday. McArthur last featured for Scotland against Brazil in a friendly at Emirates Stadium in March and scored in the 3-0 win against Northern Ireland in February's Carling Nations Cup encounter. He looks unlikely to be risked for the clash in Vaduz, with Brighton striker Craig Mackail-Smith set to step in. Cammy Bell and Lee Wallace Bell and Wallace have been added to the Scotland squad (Pics: SNS) However, with Scotland hoping to emerge from the double header with a play-off place by finishing second behind Spain in Group I, the final group game in Alicante on Tuesday looks a realistic target. "Kenny Miller is still with us," said Houston, who said it was be disappointing if the Scots had to do without a player who has scored 15 times in 57 internationals. "He's progressing by the day. "Kenny came up on Saturday evening and stayed here and the difference between Saturday and Sunday and him feeling better was quite amazing. "He is working away with the physios and hasn't joined our sessions yet. "Saturday might be difficult, but certainly for Tuesday I have high hopes for him." Scotland have four listed strikers in their squad, with David Goodwillie the back-up for Miller and Mackail-Smith, while Steven Naismith can also be used up front. "We haven't really spoken about bringing anyone else in with regards to that," Houston said. "I think it will be as you are with regards to the striker department if Kenny doesn't make it." The former Rangers, Celtic and Bursaspor striker scored one and set up the other goal in last month's 2-2 home draw with Czech Republic but missed the following 1-0 win over Lithuania through suspension. Houston is confident Mackail-Smith can step in against Liechtenstein if required. Media conference: Scotland defender Gary Caldwell "Craig Mackail-Smith is a bit similar to Kenny - he works very hard, is very, very quick and, more importantly he is scoring goals and in very, very good form," said the coach. Aston Villa right-back Alan Hutton has been receiving treatment for a knee injury, while Leeds winger Robert Snodgrass has an ankle problem, but both are expected to be fit. However, Houston confirmed that Kilmarnock goalkeeper Bell had replaced Gilks in the squad. Scotland squad Goalkeepers: David Marshall (Cardiff City), Allan McGregor (Rangers), Cammy Bell (Kilmarnock) Defenders: Stephen McManus (Middlesbrough), Steven Whittaker (Rangers), Alan Hutton (Aston Villa), Phil Bardsley (Sunderland), Grant Hanley (Blackburn Rovers), Lee Wallace (Rangers), Christophe Berra (Wolverhampton Wanderers), Gary Caldwell (Wigan Athletic) Midfielders: Charlie Adam (Liverpool), Barry Bannan (Aston Villa), Don Cowie (Cardiff City), Graham Dorrans (West Bromwich Albion), Darren Fletcher (Manchester United), James Forrest (Celtic), James Morrison (West Bromwich Albion), Steven Naismith (Rangers), Barry Robson (Middlesbrough), Robert Snodgrass (Leeds United), Danny Swanson (Dundee United) Forwards: David Goodwillie (Blackburn Rovers), Craig Mackail-Smith (Brighton and Hove Albion), Kenny Miller (Cardiff City) Spain v Scotland is live on BBC 1 Scotland and BBC Radio Scotland on Tuesday 11 October. Kick off is at 1945 BST http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/15138390.stm
  13. Former SPL chief executive Roger Mitchell claims the European Court of Justice ruling in favour of a Portsmouth pub landlady could be the first step towards Celtic and Rangers participating in a Euro Super League. Although the judgment will now pass back down to the UK high court for interpretation, the ECJ generally agreed with Karen Murphy from the Red, White and Blue pub in Portsmouth that a ban on using foreign TV decoder cards was in contravention of EU laws on free trade. In doing so, the court effectively ruled that the imposition of national borders to sell television rights on a territory-by-territory basis is illegal. Mitchell believes the news will be welcomed in the boardrooms at both halves of the Old Firm, and the logic of the decision paves the way for a wholesale reorganisation of European football. “Football is currently organised and regulated along geographical lines – that is where its strength comes from – but this judgment says that isn’t valid,” Mitchell said. “What I am getting at is that this might be the first brick to fall in the rights being held by the organisations,” he added, “and probably moves the whole situation a lot closer to a European league. If they are saying you can’t sell on geographical lines, the question is ‘why should you organise it on geographical lines?’ “When you have guys like Rangers owner Craig Whyte saying they could go and play elsewhere some day, this is the kind of news they are waiting for. Every other industry looks at Europe as one market, but football has been obliged, much to my chagrin, to make small countries such as Scotland stay as small countries.” In the short term, the ruling means that for the remaining 18 months of the existing Premier League contract, individuals will be able to buy set-top boxes and decoder cards which allow them to beam in football from overseas more cheaply, and sidestep the traditional 3pm blackout. One potential sticking point is the ECJ’s ruling that, while beaming in matches themselves from overseas was not in breach of copyright, items such as the Premier League anthem, graphics, build-up and highlights packages were subject to copyright. But Mitchell added: “I certainly think the news is very dramatic and good news for both Celtic and Rangers. The big clubs in every country, Manchester United in England, Celtic and Rangers in Scotland, are always looking at ways to get a direct return for their value. “So there will be a lot of conversations going on around different tables and this is the kind of news that has always stopped this a European Super League from happening before now.” http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/editor-s-picks/mitchell-ruling-paves-way-for-old-firm-euro-league-1.1127621
  14. RANGERS chiefs have blasted a new specialist cop force set up to weed out footy hooligans and sectarian bigots. The Ibrox club's head of security David Martin wrote in a statement to Parliament that the national Football Policing Unit has targeted EVERY Gers game this season and that officers are filming innocent fans and kids. Mr Martin said in his submission over a Bill designed to tackle footy hate crimes: "There is a disproportionate focus on Rangers supporters." He also had a dig at Celtic fans and those at other SPL clubs for belting out "songs glorifying the death of Rangers fans in the Ibrox disaster and pro-IRA songs". Celtic supported the FPU â?? set up in the wake of the Old Firm shame game in March. Club secretary Robert Howat's statement to Holyrood read: "We remain supportive of the willingness of the Government to tackle sectarianism and extremes of behaviour." But he warned that new laws could criminalise ordinary football fans. Last night the Government welcomed both clubs' "constructive contributions". Read more: http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/3785176/Rangers-Police-pick-on-us.html#ixzz1ZttUccli
  15. But that is all Rangers fans want,parity!!!. Rangers as a club have made great efforts to change the song sheet,and the Rangers fans have changed the song sheet yet still get intimadated at home games. Rangers FC realised there was a problem and did something about it,BHEAST FC however deny they have a problem and their fans get the full support from BHEAST FC and mHedia. I'll wait and see what come out of this invistgation before commenting,I'm not holding my breath.
  16. By Tom Peterkin Scottish Political Editor "ill-advised" THE Bishop of Paisley has warned Alex Salmond that his attempts to deal with sectarianism could lead to him losing the confidence of the Catholic Church. In a strongly worded letter to the First Minister, Bishop Philip Tartaglia has expressed his dismay at the SNP government and called for controversial antibigotry legislation to be delayed, claiming it is a "distraction" from the real nature of sectarianism in Scotland. Bishop Tartaglia called Mr Salmond's efforts "ill-advised," and expressed concern over the First Minister's stance on gay marriage. In a move that suggests the relationship between the Scottish Government and the Church is deteriorating, Bishop Tartaglia said there was a "growing apprehension and disappointment" among Catholics over the position adopted by the SNP on controversial issues. Bishop Tartaglia's letter, which has been seen by The Scotsman,argues Mr Salmond's Offensive Behaviour at Football Bill is being brought forward with "indecent" haste and without knowledge of the full extent of the problem. His dissatisfaction with the bill comes at a time when the Catholic Church is becoming increasingly concerned about the Scottish Government's decision to hold a consultation on same-sex marriages. The consultation has yet to be finished. But, in the past, Mr Salmond has said his personal view is that he is in favour of gay marriage. In his letter, Bishop Tartaglia said: "The bishops did previously try to alert you to our serious misgivings about plans to dismantle the definition of marriage in Scotland. Your apparent commitment to such a course, will, I fear, bring about a serious chill to relations between the Scottish Government and the Catholic Bishops' Conference." Bishop Tartaglia was writing on his own behalf, but his views are shared by many other influential figures in the Catholic Church in Scotland. The tone of the letter will be worrying for the SNP, given that much of the party's success in breaking through in the west of Scotland at the May election is thought to have been down to winning over many Catholic voters. Last night, Scottish Catholic Observer editor Liz Leydon said: "The strength of Bishop Tartaglia's challenge â?¦ acts as a timely reminder of just how far current legislative proposals have strayed from the values inherent in our traditionally Christian society." Although he recognised that the anti-sectarian bill had been introduced with "good intentions", Bishop Tartaglia said he could no longer support the legislation that was introduced following ugly scenes at Old Firm matches last season. "It seems that a consensus is developing, supported by much expert opinion, that this proposed legislation is problematic," the Bishop wrote. "I am concerned that the bill's introduction has served as a distraction from the real nature of sectarianism in Scotland." The Church's concerns come amid growing signs that opposition politicians at Holyrood believe the SNP's proposals are becoming increasingly confused and could criminalise ordinary fans. The bill would see those convicted face up to five years in jail for bigoted behaviour, such as singing or chanting that could incite trouble, at matches or online. The bill's critics have argued that existing legislation - properly enforced - is strong enough to deal with trouble-makers. There has also been confusion over what exactly constitutes an offensive chant or song at a football match. That confusion was not helped when community safety minister Roseanna Cunningham suggested that making the sign of the cross or singing God Save the Queen could be interpreted as a sectarian offence under certain circumstances. Bishop Tartaglia wrote that she spoke "loosely and unhelpfully about the use of the sign of the cross". Bishop Tartaglia argued that sectarian criminality in Scotland was predominantly acts of hostility and intolerance towards Catholics. He claimed this was borne out by the most recent official figures, though he said these were not up to date. The bishop called for the most recent statistics on sectarian offences to be published, so that the new legislation would be based on the most-accurate data. "To pass this bill into law without first revealing the true picture of sectarianism in Scotland is ill-advised," he argued. "I hope you will delay the passage of the bill to permit a thorough examination of the available data. Concern for just and wise law-making and for the historic and universally accepted meaning of marriage are both matters of concern to the Catholic Church. With regard to these matters, I sense there is a growing apprehension and disappointment on the part of many in the Catholic community at the direction your government is taking." He added: "I would be very sorry, if you began to lose the confidence of the Catholic community." Mr Salmond's spokesman said the First Minister would be happy to meet with the bishop to discuss the points he had made. The spokesman said: "The Scottish Government is conducting a consultation on same-sex marriage - and no decisions have been arrived at. There are clearly different views and an honest disagreement on this particular issue, and the Catholic Church and other organisations have every right to express their position. "On the bill to combat sectarianism, the work to publish the analysis of religious aggravation charges for the most recent year, 2010-11, has been underway for some time, and will be published next month as pledged, which we are sure will be welcomed by all those with an interest and concern in this important area. "The First Minister will be delighted to have a meeting with Bishop Tartaglia and his colleagues, and we are confident that we can allay concerns about the bill by taking the opportunity to discuss the Lord Advocate's draft guidelines, and by making clear that there is no intention to restrict freedom of speech in terms of the communications offence within the bill." http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/glasgow/Bishop-warns-Catholics-may-lose.6847856.jp?articlepage=2
  17. Maybe Rangers FC should take a leaf out of their book?. Supporter Management Charter http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/melbournevictory/videos/all/Supporter-Management-Charter/1655/1
  18. What like moving in and ejected a young fan for drinking water from a bottle you mean?
  19. I wonder why the police never went in and lifted the fans during the game?
  20. What are the Rangers fans coming to?,handing out tape,drinking water,singing songs,laughing..............................the end is nigh I tell ya
  21. hang him!!!!!
  22. You leave my mate Hastie out of this:smile:
  23. They're too busy instructing the stewards on the next assault on the BF1 to be worried about a wee thing like that Craig:smile:
  24. Hertz were at fault IMO,why expose kids to BHEASTS?:devil:
  25. I would just like to know why the police & stewards presence around the BF1 is more visible than anywhere else in Ibrox,especialy against the likes of killie & HIVS when there is no high risk,even less so now that we have been moved away from the away fans?.There is an intimidating atmosphere in this section now,why?.I believe most fans know right from wrong,apart from the odd dafty and even then a quiet word normaly defuses any potentialy heated incident.
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