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Thanks for that mate - simply couldn't be bothered as I doubt I'd have had anything good to say. I thought Lafferty did OK when he came on, Diouf was probably our most dangerous player and Papac our best player in defence. The rest get 1s...

I don't think that's true as he'd simply do what he did against Lisbon and push Whittaker into wide midfield. Moreover, the players have already indicated they're as much to blame as anyone for sitting too deep.

Clueless managers don't have the record of Walter Smith.

Smith is definitely limited and not flexible enough but his CV shows him to be a decent manager. Unfortunately, his decision-making of late has been poor while we definitely seem to lack the kind of qualities a good coach would instil. He's not helped by key players who simply won't turn up for games.

I admire your optimism mate and we are far from out of it but I really can't see how we can turn this around this time.

A fine post mate - in a nutshell!

Of course and that's where the support need to start asking serious questions. The Assembly need to take the lead now on this by actively lobbying the club for clear answers on our future with the understanding that if no debate takes place they'll be recommending to their members to refuse season ticket renewals.

Yip, I don't feel confident enough in the players or manager to turn this around. Meanwhile, Celtic are on a high and don't look like dropping points. This makes our reaction all the more important - not just to fight for the title but to plan for not winning it. The buck then goes to those above the manager given season ticket sales are almost upon us. Something has to give - be it a takeover or the existing owner coming out of hiding. The status quo simply cannot go on.

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Aye, it's this that is hurting more than any Old Firm defeat. FFS, Celtic players were laughing in our faces yesterday and we didn't do a thing. You'd think that would spur a few people on but going by yesterday we'll just bend over even further. The simple fact is our club is leaderless and rudderless. There doesn't seem to be anyone willing to say enough is enough.

Yep, clearly an admin error...

Before I start, I'd like to make it clear that this league still has a long way to go. As always, any defeat should be taken in context and not used to write off title challenges or make other teams look better than they actually are. However... Yesterday was a total disgrace from our players and the manager should not escape criticism either. Ironically, I doubt many of us would have disagreed with the starting XI - even if a few of the players have been under-performing generally this season. Sure, a 4-5-1 may look immediately defensive but we still had the offensive players to make it work effectively. For whatever reason most of the team simply downed tools - and not for the first time this season. Indeed, that is the most worrying aspect of yesterday's defeat. Like at the end of the Advocaat reign and during the final months of the McLeish era, our team look devoid of ideas, lack inspiration and are utterly vacant in their commitment. To make matters worse the management team seem incapable of motivating them or reversing our backward spiral. When one considers our next manager is partly responsible for this negative trend, it is safe to say that worry soon turns to fear. The malaise and uncertainty running through Rangers Football Club is nothing new. Our financial issues are debated daily and the last decade has been one of short term outlooks with little long term security. We have an owner who runs off to France when the going gets tough, directors who are too busy defending themselves to defend the club, players whose only loyalty is to the coin and fans who'd rather argue with each other than get together to lobby for solutions. Nevertheless, obviously one defeat to Celtic isn't the end of the world. Win our games in hand and we're only two points behind. Beat them at Ibrox in the next SPL game and we could very well be in front again. Certainly, what happens on the park is directly related to how we perform off it. And arguably that's why caution appears to be the mainstay of our tactical outlook. How can any team play with abandon when they know their manager is leaving, they know the club owner couldn't care less and they know they'll only be offered a pay-cut despite any potential success? However, that doesn't explain our inability to do the basics right and work hard for your team-mates. The way the Celtic team hunted in packs and were physically stronger than every one of our players made me more than angry sitting watching the game. Yet, our players just bent over for more while our manager refused to make any changes that may have helped us influence the game a bit more. Let me be clear again. Walter Smith has done a fantastic job in both his tenures at the club. To win 9IAR was incredible but to come back and keep us competitive for four seasons, winning two titles and coming close to more - as well as taking us to the UEFA Cup final - compares just as well. For those successes he'll have my eternal thanks. Unfortunately, he can't escape criticism either. Being loyal to players is an admirable trait. Being stubborn tactically has yielded results I didn't think were possible in some games. But sometimes he can take these virtues too far which quickly turns positives into negatives. Quite simply there are a few players in this team that have not performed this season - outwith the odd game. Key personnel like Whittaker, Bougherra, Davis and Edu to name a small selection were again awful yesterday - awful; yet all completed the match and it is unlikely any of them will be dropped for the future. Persevering with guys so obviously short of confidence isn't being loyal - it is merely making things worse. Of course naming a few players arguably isn't fair. These guys aren't the only ones who appear to lack the quality and belief required to retain the title. Bad passing, poor shooting, dreadful set-pieces and unacceptable attitudes are prevalent throughout the side. Every player needs to ask themselves if their contribution is worthy of the huge salaries they earn. Lamentably, as seen yesterday I just think the problems are now too numerous for us to be considered capable of winning the league this year. That's not defeatism but simply being realistic when looking at the evidence. I honestly don't see how players so obviously low in morale and lacking in character can turn this around. The next few months will be the biggest test of Smith's managerial career and will determine his legacy for many. Can he respond? Finally, there's no shame in losing. Whether it be the game yesterday, or the title this season, sometimes being second best happens. However, what is important, and what is absolutely vital for our club's future, is the way we react it it. We can feel sorry for ourselves and turn an Old Firm loss into a meek title concession. Or we can finally show some pride and use the hurt from yesterday to give us the spark required to get back into this title race. Rather than raise the white flag of surrender, we need to regroup, "to fight and gain the victory". The future is now.

Now fixed - will see if the issue cam be addressed generally

It is because of the extended punctuation. I'll remove it asap.

Last time I was there was the 2-6 reverse and I almost got lifted afterwards. Will never go back.

Barring injury, if this isn't the team I'd be shocked: :sw: :mb: :sp: :ehd: :sd: :kbartley: :me: :sn: :nj:

We have about as much chance of getting a penalty on Sunday as Walter Smith phoning me to replace McGregor in goals...!

To be fair he didn't have a great game himself - often took too long on the ball and lack of sharpness was evident. Did improve afetr half-time though with more support.

Nope, I'm not underwhelmed at all - though for other games I have been. Too much spice in this one.

I think it will be Davis, Edu and Bartley in the middle. I'll be happy enough with that as Diouf and Naismith/Weiss should be capable of supporting Jelavic.

Quite right mate! If yer no' fast, yer last!

That may be true as a draw is a better result for us than them when you take the venue, current form and the games in hand into account. The danger with such a tactic is that the players will (again) sit too deep or not take enough initiative to secure a win and end up losing. As such, I'm confident enough that the management team will convey the message that sitting is deliberately (i.e. not being forced to do so) is unacceptable.

Ian won't be happy with you stealing his thread... I think the game will finish 2-2 with three men sent off. Jelavic and Lafferty will score for us.

I don't doubt we'll have to defend deep on Sunday at some point. Celtic are not a great team but they are good at getting forward and we'll have to defend in numbers for periods. So yes, that is inevitable. However, there is a difference between parking the bus, playing to our strengths and causing other teams problems. We should be able to defend and attack well. And we've shown we can a few times this season with our flexible 4-5-1.

No training the day after a game is probably the norm for most teams - especially when you play Celtic less than 72 hours after the final whistle of a tough European night. Nonetheless, I'm sure most of the players will take the opportunity to attend MurrayPark and use the facilities to keep themselves in tip-top condition. Perhaps even a curry and a few beers for some team bonding may be a good idea! I'll judge the preparation when I see Sunday's result.