Frankie

Not the only one starting a new job I hear....

Agree with most of that TB (doubt Souness would take the job though) but was trying to play devil's advocate somewhat with my first reply...

In some ways I don't blame Burley for dropping McGregor but agree the punishment was too severe despite the schoolboy antics of our keeper and Ferguson last season. I reckon Burley could address much of the ill-feeling and controversy about parts of his tenure by leading from the front and recalling both McGregor and Boyd for the Wales match. Right away, he'd then place the onus on the players and take the pressure off himself. Marshall isn't bad but he's not as good as McGregor (or Alexander for that matter). Burley's inconsistency of selection means we have a weaker Scotland team. Only he can rectify that.

See above video as well as 'Footie Chat' on what happened. Sky muted their microphones so the chant in the video wasn't heard. BBC commentators said silence was observed 'impeccably'.

But just in case: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5y2-U6Ll1Q]YouTube- Celtic's Remembrance Day Shame 8.11.09[/ame]

Methinks MF is pulling yer chain craig...

Rangers v St Johnstone Heart of Midlothian v St. Mirren Ties to be played on Tuesday 2nd and Wednesday 3rd February, 2010.

Can't disagree with any of that TB...

http://www.gersnetonline.co.uk/2010/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=145:a-tale-of-rancid-bigoted-scum-and-moronic-white-underclasses&catid=1:articles&Itemid=67 In a week where we have Rangers supporters labelled as 'rancid', 'bigots', 'scum', 'numb-skulls', 'white underclass', 'morons', 'knuckler-trailers' , 'vermin' and 'animals' (and that's in the broadsheet and tabloid media - not the phone-ins and unofficial forums!); exactly how does one work their way through all the hyperbole and faux moral outrage to reach the core of the problems these polemic articles speak of? As you can see from the plethora of abusive adjectives above, Thesaurus.com has had its fair share of hits this week from the usual outrage sources such as Graham Spiers (The Times), Anna Smith (Daily Mirror), Glen Glibbons (The Scotsman) and more. Criticism of the Rangers support from these brave literary warriers is nothing new and, in the main, it is water off a duck's back given their journalistic credibility is about as high as Ian Brines' refereeing abilities. That's not to say some of the criticism aimed our way is incorrect or unfair. If you look beyond the usual suspect's eagerness to attack their favourite subject; we can't deny in some aspects they are right. We do need to examine why we continually attract and cause problems on our travels. While it may not be as simple as these allegedly erudite crusaders suggest, we do not have our challenges to seek in this regard. As such, the club and support must work together to face these challenges and repair the damage done by the tiny percentage of fans who have let us down in recent years. While this percentage is extremely low, it isn't negligible as long as Sky go against their new policy of not offending their viewers by broadcasting pictures that worry and disappoint Rangers FC and their fans. Ergo, we do need to accept criticism, we do need to look inward and we do need to find innovative ways of ensuring we can follow, follow anywhere without fear of yobs letting us down or the subsequent barrage of abuse in the media afterwards. Deflecting or denying from that won't help. By the same token though, the people who cover such topics with such obvious glee also need to examine their behaviour. Do they honestly believe such eristic coverage is going to help eradicate the behaviour of the minority? Sure, they may not be immediately to blame for the actions of neds (or indeed stewards/police) but neither will they solve the issue with the petty point-scoring we read in the opening paragraph of this article. In fact, add in this ever-willing and excitable pack of rabid journalists to the overall mix then what one has is not a solution to the omnipresent stench of hooliganism, sectarianism, racism or even just unacceptable behaviour; but simply a catalyst to fuel the flames of paranoia, ignorance and hatred which only serves to increase said tension. As such, this coverage - juxtaposed with impotent authorities prevaricating to ensure the next million pounds of taxpayer money falls into their lap - doesn't reduce these minorities but only increases them. Thus, the next time these journalists pick up their Parker to write their next 'letter'to club executives, or the next time they open up their laptop to email their UEFA sources; perhaps they can look in the mirror first and ask if they really want to fix these problems or are they happy making five figure salaries from picking and choosing the battles depending on what colour the people involved wear? Will Spiers berate Celtic's green and white 'underclass' republicans spoiling minute silences? Will Gibbons write an 'open letter' 'to Peter Lawwell reminding him of decades of anti-British hatred from their support (going back a lot longer than 1969)? Will Anna Smith explore the 'racist and sectarian' elements of her beloved Hoops fans while asking for them to be banned from Europe? The fact is every club has their fair share of yobs who let down the majority. I see little improvement from any club in that respect as I'm told to 'go home ya hun' by clubs of not just green colours either most weeks in the SPL. The fact is the SPL, the Scottish Government and a media only interested in their next shilling are complicit in the problems we see and hear every week in our national game. The fact is, despite millions of pounds spent and millions of words written, I still await any tangible results in that regard. So the next time you reach for the dictionary to find your next needless insult, ask yourself who is really to blame. You may find the answer isn't as easy to find as you think.

From Daily Record

Pete: I've not seen or heard one Rangers fan deny that we have a problem with a small minority of fans who continue to let us down. Every Rangers fan I know has condemned this minority and their behaviour. What franker's point is (and his post is a superb one) is that the coverage of other club's similar minority are not being condemned illustrated perfectly by what happened yesterday.

I agree it is perhaps an unlikely request, but I reckon the author threw this in for polemic reasons as it helps highlight one of the core problems at the game. Safety should be a priority for every club in every competition and if Unirea (or whoever else) can't deliver that most basic of comforts to away fans then their participation in such competitions should be open to challenge. Unfortunately the same could be said for clubs whose fans cause trouble so I'd urge caution when making calls for censure.

Don't worry moves are still afoot in the background to buy the club. We can only hope this happens before January at a price that leaves enough flexibility for the new owner to ensure the club's fiscal status is positive before we get to season ticket sale time.

Again, I agree there should be one voice and everyone should be invited to the table so their opinion forms part of that. Unfortunately, as much as most of us would enjoy that unity, it probably won't happen as long as constant, direct disagreement and personal issues form part of the debate. I'm not blaming one party here as everyone needs to ask what they can do to solve this particular problem. I'm hoping the Assembly is going to show some more leadership in that regard (they certainly did recently) but we'll see how successful they are.

Again, I agree there should be one voice and everyone should be invited to the table so their opinion forms part of that. Unfortunately, as much as most of us would enjoy that unity, it probably won't happen as long as constant, direct disagreement and personal issues form part of the debate. I'm not blaming one party here as everyone needs to ask what they can do to solve this particular problem. I'm hoping the Assembly is going to show some more leadership in that regard (they certainly did recently) but we'll see how successful they are.

I don't disagree and I also think the dig at the other fan groups is somewhat counter-productive. However, people are entitled to their opinion and I posted the statement so people can give theirs. Perhaps the RFE guys may wish to come on and defend what they say?

Played better after being moved out wide today. Seems incapable of taking the responsibility/leadership to play in the middle of midfield. Expect a lot more from the lad.

RFE group have asked me to post this statement on their behalf. I'm sure most of would agree with most of the sentiments in it and hope the club are strong under pressure from all sides regarding Bucharest incidents.

http://www.gersnetonline.co.uk/2010/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=144:rangers-2-1-st-mirren-player-ratings-and-mom-poll&catid=35:analysis&Itemid=67 Man of the Match - :jf:

On phone now in local carry out and it works well enough for me. Better than having to pinch etc with Safari. Come on the bears!

I'd imagine the expenses of the MPs can't be cheap... Does seem to charge for such an event but �£5 isn't a great deal of cash for those really interested in the subjects.

Never seen this.... Who said what? Was it Fraser Martin as he's usually very good with the media?

KT8 was banned from RangersMedia for this type of nonsense thread. Please don't waste all our time here.

I'm still waiting on the report from SS/MD on the last one which was to be circulated to the members and websites etc... Perhaps that explains why nothing was followed up effectively?

Sounds like a good event - unfortunately won't be able to make it next weekend but I'm sure some interesting points should arise from it.