ian1964 10,409 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 13,588 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 That really is truly embarrassing. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 Nationalism, Scotland’s shame 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmck 117 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 11 hours ago, Bill said: Nationalism, Scotland’s shame I feel like it’s *, Scotland’s shame at the moment. Was out on the boat yesterday and on the way back home we stopped for some water, sat nav led us through a wee estate - window with a Scotland and England flag up. Small mercies and all that. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexscottislegend 2,057 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 On 08/07/2021 at 14:12, Bill said: I find I have no difficulty wishing our neighbours well or understanding their joy at a small success after so many years of failure. In fact it would be petty and parochial to be anything other than generous towards them. Let them be proud to be English and if some of them go over the top then let's not be so disingenuous to think we wouldn't do exactly the same. Otherwise we just look like people with an enormous chip on our shoulders .... we're not, are we? I moved to England shortly before the 1966 win. And they were claiming it as a victory for British football when it was a victory for English football.What annoyed us more than anything was to see so many Union flags at Wembley - a flag England are not entitled to. Thankfully, now they have learned after 55 years what their national flag was. We wouldn't be the same though - we would be a damn sight worse! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmck 117 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 35 minutes ago, alexscottislegend said: I moved to England shortly before the 1966 win. And they were claiming it as a victory for British football when it was a victory for English football.What annoyed us more than anything was to see so many Union flags at Wembley - a flag England are not entitled to. Thankfully, now they have learned after 55 years what their national flag was. We wouldn't be the same though - we would be a damn sight worse! These are our neighbours friends and families, and fellow countrymen. I’d rather take their hubris over our never-ending wee man syndrome. They can fly union jacks if they want too - it’s not their national flag, but it is that of their country’s. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo 6,122 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Final instalment tonight at Wembley and the odds are England @7/5 Italy @17/10 Draw @ 2/1 So may the best team win and let's hope for a game to remember. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexscottislegend 2,057 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 47 minutes ago, bmck said: These are our neighbours friends and families, and fellow countrymen. I’d rather take their hubris over our never-ending wee man syndrome. They can fly union jacks if they want too - it’s not their national flag, but it is that of their country’s. You may need to revise your history of the union flag (the term' Union 'Jack' is technically incorrect); their country's flag is included in it - as is Scotland's. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uilleam 5,409 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, alexscottislegend said: You may need to revise your history of the union flag (the term' Union 'Jack' is technically incorrect); their country's flag is included in it - as is Scotland's. Is it not called the Union Jack when flown as a jack flag at sea? UA HMS Pedantic 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,717 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, alexscottislegend said: You may need to revise your history of the union flag (the term' Union 'Jack' is technically incorrect); their country's flag is included in it - as is Scotland's. It’s the Union Jack if people call it the Union Jack and people do call it the Union Jack and no amount of Canute-like pedantry is going to change that. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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