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buster. replied to Frankie's topic in Rangers Chat
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There was a lot of hyperbole and overblown rhetoric coming from both sides in the immediate aftermath of the referendum. Given the tensions leading up to the referendum it was IMO, inevitable. I'd recommend sticking everything said in the 3/4 days post referendum in the bin and starting a fresh.
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They got away with a 70.7M burn* and an unsecured 2.5M loan facility (that dissappeared a la ) so as to persuade Deloittes to sign off the going concern last year by leaving it to last minute, crisis PR mgmt, bringing in worthless bit's of paper called CV's, blaming the 'Old board' and saying "trust us, we'll bring transparancy, good corporate governance, investment,... honest we will...". I'd expect them to achieve a similar result this time....but how ? I'm no accountant but I'd have thought providing sufficient 'comfort' for Deloittes to sign off RIFC as a going concern and what that entailed will be very interesting. As will Deloittes reaction to the involvement of Rizvi in the meeting of (fraudulant) minds. As will the total fees paid to Deloittes compared to the previous year. * I noticed a poster JCD.... being discussed on another thread. I recall him telling us that the 70M was nothing to worry about and that it was all 'properly' accounted for. This was before the discovery of so many onerous contracts and the like. ie. He's consistant in various directions.
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Seem to recall the QC representing RIFC (v I.Ahmad) say that the AGM would be held by the end of September (or was it October): Found it............... AGM to discuss new share issue likely to be ”September or October this year” says Rangers QC Alan Summers They have no shame.
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James Easdale has been let out of the cupboard and is actually getting some work to do. However, he only has ten fingers and ten toes so it may take a while. -
To give balance to what I said, the same applies for the No vote / Unionism. ie. What is important to the majority are other issues that directly effect their standard of living and sense of well-being. This is where surely 'the majority' would concurr and instead of creating an intransigent divide (which benefits Political Westminster) come together where there is common ground. It won't happen immediately but look to heal rifts and not further divide.
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Those who wanted political change via Independence would do well to leave the Saltire at home and give thought how to approach the matter in a different way. What is apparent is that the reasons behind the general discontent and disconnection will not be materially addressed in a significant and lasting way by those in power. Hence the same and probably worsening conditions will prevail and eventually push louder opposition. The major difficulty that the 'opposition' will probably have is divided POV's/direction and a lack of unity of purpose. Those who have recently woken up to politics (again) would do well to take stock, forget the Nationalist v Unionist divide (which will now serve to protect Westminster from what I think should be the real debate), learn more, inform others and move on. Bottomline, we want a decent society and a political system that represents us........ We aren't getting it. The majority didn't want Independence. So use the head and tap into a market that is not only there but growing throughout the UK and beyond.
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Both campaigns were flawed in different ways and neither could be said to have been conducted throughout with sufficient thoroughness of vision, pre-campaign graft/negotiation and honesty. I am probably one of the few who were reasonably objective but in the end felt more attracted by some of what the Yes campaign were saying. Now here is where I think many fail to appreciate the motivations of many who may have felt broadly similar. For many, it wasn't to do with Nationalism. It was to do with a deep discontent and disconnect with the political system that governs us. One that no longer seems to represent an increasing number of people. At it's base is that there is little difference between Conservative and (New) Labour. It is a big positive that a significant number have rekindled or found direct interest in politics, they won't like that in London. They prefer to dumb down the majority as can be seen by how they have allowed society to roll. At a UK level, the significant rise of Ukip is partly down to with this basic discontent. You then move onto trends within society since 1997 (arrival of Blair) that concern relationships between politicans, business (especially finance), the large media groups, USA (military conflicts) etc................................ the biggest apparent casaulties being the Truth, the lack of accountability and who ends up paying the 'price'. Society is sick. Truth is no longer important, it can be 'managed' and therefore the people aswell. Personally, I don't think Independence would have solved all the problems. There would have been a different watered down version of the same. Salmond had already demonstrated during the past few years that he would partake in a similar 'game'. I think a bigger change is needed at a UK level. Within the present system, a new political party or parties are needed to help give the electorate as a whole a chance of representation. In Spain this is happening, but is in great part down to the harsh austerity that is what actually moves people to act.
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Nip and Tuck as to whether the hijacked or the hijackers have done more damage to the club over these past few years. When you actually think about it, it is the hijacked.
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If you think that the main parties will stick together in some kind of unified pact to "fight with unrelenting determination to establish social justice, as well as eradicate poverty and it’s manifestations from the shores of our United Kingdom." ie. to undo what they have been supervising over a number of years..................then you don't live in the real world. If the rhetoric is to help drum up enthusiasm then fine but you should learn from the Nationalists mistakes regards not having enough substance or not being able to convince anyone outwith the 'membership' or already converted. As for Scottish Labour winning back supporters from the SNP, for a start they need some 'credible people' and not the likes of Lamont. There is more chance of Clement Atlee returning than your line about the UK parties seriously working together and achieving the "eradication of poverty" , perhaps Gordon Brown is as high as they could go but it's doubtful he'd want to and he comes with baggage. For a number of reasons, democracy in the UK is in an unhealthy state and for me there are issues that are far more important than the Union or Nationalism.
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Both campaigns were badly flawed in different ways. The Yes campaign hadn't done the necessary graft/(pre) negotiation required beforehand so as to provide conclusive and unambiguous answers on the vital issues. This deficit was partly filled by Nationalist rhetoric. I remember Salmond waving the Saltire at Wimbledon after Murray won the championship and thought he'd have been so much better giving the flag to his wife. This for me showed patriotism and emotion coming before politics which in one way may be considered an 'honest reaction' but one that carried on into the campaign........
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I think it is for everyone who so wishes to engage in whatever "fight" against perceived "social injustice" and not for one particular sub-section of society. I think you are mistaken if you think everyone who voted No is what I presume to be your definition of a Unionist (feel free to clarify). I think a majority of No votes will have been made for personal reasons involving finances and a fear of the unknown. To be clear, IMO the Yes campaign was too full of bluster and waving of the Saltire but your rhetoric isn't disimilar but waving a different flag. Whilst there will be a period of metaphorical conflict, what this country needs is less division and more attention focused towards real problems, that goes for both sides. ps. I must note that 'division' seems to be a speciality of a certain group you belong to.
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Is this or has it been spun like the equivalent of the board of any football club, giving their manager the 'vote of confidence' ?
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Bit of a giggle ..........................................................................................................................still going to win the title Louis ?
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Mr.Wasp, are you an Alloa supporter having a dig ? ........... ......... and in the interests of clarity, does your question refer to the football, the financial or both ?? Would the club be better run (longterm interests of Rangers FC) if a lollipop man replaced the board of RIFC ?
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I think so many of these type of lines have been used so many times, switching to another and then back again that fans hardly even notice them pass by. Bottomline, there comes a time when the support get 'Omnishambles-Fatigue.'
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buster. replied to Frankie's topic in Rangers Chat
Regards FS, in event of him being elected, I don't think we or other forums should forget that his primary concern will most probably be 'what it says on the tin', ie. the 'lot' of the disabled fan on matchdays etc. TheWeeBlueDevil I'd add sleekit and slippery to your collection of adjectives. The type that might Smile whilst Stabbing you in the back. -
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Some may consider that to be part of a logical chain of unfortunate events. -
I don't think it was the brightest of ideas to arrange this fixture so soon after the referendum although I guess money trumps everything else.
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buster. replied to Frankie's topic in Rangers Chat
Hildy, I think you put forward a reasonable question to ask those who are standing for a representative role. I don't know how many of them may look in on Gersnet but BH is certainly on here and could perhaps respond.