Gonzo79

It's certainly rather concerning, although I expect Dessers and Cifuentes to start.

Real Betis got their colours from Celtc (guy from there studied in Glasgow and liked that lot's strip) and as such, I don't like them.

Sometimes other priorities take over and you forget how much you hate Celtc. Then a muppet like Stubbs pops up and reminds you.

Imagine anyone in a normal job downed tools when a couple of their mates left. Absolutely pathetic behaviour.

I know the money/prestige of playing in the Club World Cup would be great but as things stand, we'd be in for a few pastings. It's so frustrating that our recent European exploits, combined with our inability to win the league, have allowed the scum straight into the CL these past two seasons. That's why it's so important we win the league!

They'll say what they think they're supposed to say.

Kamara has signed for Leeds - official.

Do people actually take what footballers say about their manager/employer seriously?

Aye. Hopefully the Lazio fans give them a very warm welcome in Rome.

Alan Stubbs is one of those who has fully bought into their vicTimhood patter and like most yahoos, he's probably now delusional enough to believe what he said there actually happened.

I'd go 4-5-1, flood the midfield and when we get the ball fling the attacking midfielders up into attack. Butland Tav Goldson Souttar Barisic Jack Cifu Raskin Dowell Cantwell Danilo

There are exceptions to every rule.

Neither you nor I are party to that kind of information. Footballers are inclined to go where they'll be paid the most, I'd have thought.

Veerman is Dutch, which maybe explains that one. However, our wages aren't that different from PSV's and we have recently competed well in Europe, so I think your point is largely irrelevant.

Indeed it is. For the players and management.

So a team with a smaller wage bill*, that we knocked out twelve months ago, are light years ahead and far superior to us. *if the figures are true

If needs must, then yes. Dunno. Doubt it.

If a manager change is afoot, we really need to bring in someone with proven credentials next. Enough of these novices.

It's a bit weird just accepting that we're not good enough to 'compete'. Reminds me of GvB's post-Ajax interview and I never forgave him for that.

I'd give him until bonfire night. We can't leave it until December again.

What is going on with Danilo? Has Beale spent £6m on a player he's not sure how to use? I'm genuinely a bit baffled about what his plan is with Danilo and Dessers. I think they might work well together but not sure what Beale thinks because their usage has been a bit all over the place.

I'm dreading getting Liverpool again. There's a few other sides in there that could also give us a hiding. A lot will depend on the draw.

Butland, obviously. It's worrying how often he's our best or one of our best players.

If a train is heading in the wrong direction, it's wise to consider changing things. I wouldn't be sacking Beale just now but if things don't start improving soon, it needs to be considered.

Was it tactics/formation or the midfielders playing poorly though? I'd say about 70/30.