alexscottislegend 2,057 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 It's a shame that it didn't work out for him, but I suppose he was competing with Luca for that 'up and coming' centre back spot. What? Only one up-and-coming spot? We should be building a core group of the country's best youth. If we cannot do it in League One we can't do it anywhere. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
der Berliner 3,234 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) All depends on your point of view. We have the old horses, Mohsni is 26, and the we have ... Sebastien Faure 22 (*03.01.1991 ) – Contract till 2015 Kyle McAusland 20 (*19.01.1993 ) – Contract till 2015 Chris Hegarty 21 (* 13.08.1992 ) – Contract till 2015 Ross Perry 23 (* 07.02.1990 ) – Contract till 2015 Luca Gasparotto 18 (* 03.09.1995) – Contract till 2014 Essentially all vying for a CH slot and some are still eligible for the u20s / u21s. We can all argue about the qualities of some of these players, but the fact remains that they are all there and unless moved, in the way of people like Urquart. It is essentially the same as with Gallagher. These players will not develope their skills unless thrown into a competitive environment. We might have thus loaned Urquart and some others (and hopefully will), but this is not just about what the club wants. Urquart could well have been loaned and remained for three more years, only to see his place blocked by newly signed experienced veteran (25+) players ... like Rangers have done for decades. (And before people come up and say that is wrong ... that is the way all great British teams assemble their successful squads. You have to be a very special youth player to break that habit, whether that is considered wrong or not.) Should we sign Zaliukas, it may spell the end for some of those actually blocking the path of our younger talent, i.e. Perry and Hegarty. Neither of the latter two convinced enough last season. Edited September 19, 2013 by der Berliner 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilledbear 16 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I'm sure Urquhart was offered a contract but the lad and his family were not happy with Rangers, and had decided a while ago not to sign. The problem with a big squad is youngsters may feel they have less chance. I don't mean McLeod and Crawford who have their foot in the door, but McKay and the younger age group. If they don't get the chance while we are in the lower Leagues, what chance when we get into the top League. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy steel 0 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Looks like Urquart is being moved on so Zaliukas can be shoehorned in. If so, I find this profoundly depressing. If a promising youngster can develop his career in England's lower leagues, then why could he not do it at least equally well in Scotland's? The one thing I thought demotion would allow us to do would be to give a core group of youths - say 6 or 7 - the chance to grow together and maybe sell on for a decent fee. Instead we seem set on recruiting ageing soldiers of fortune who will be all be too old when we eventually return to the top flight. Then it all starts again: no good youngsters to stock the team , but a succession of temporary (but experienced) signings. Meanwhile Urquart will probably make a name for himself together with team mate John Fleck. I find it baffling that we need so many experienced players for the standard of football we find ourselves in. After the last few years, and with the few still to come, perhaps we should replace 'Aye Ready' with 'Profoundly Depressing'! 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilledbear 16 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I feel the same as alex, I had hopes of seeing a different Rangers rising through the Leagues. Perhaps it was more a dream, but still disappointing to see the amount and age of signings. Probably the wrong management team to go that route, but an opportunity lost IMO. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
der Berliner 3,234 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I feel the same as alex, I had hopes of seeing a different Rangers rising through the Leagues. Perhaps it was more a dream, but still disappointing to see the amount and age of signings. Probably the wrong management team to go that route, but an opportunity lost IMO. Well, I marked the signings, I'll leave the age-calculator to you. Snatched it from our German board squad-list: replace "geb." with "born" and "Vertrag bis" with "contract till": Goal: Alan Smith (geb. 25.05.1993 ) – Vertrag bis 2014 Scott Gallacher (geb. 15.07.1989 ) – Vertrag bis 2015 Cammy Bell (geb. 18.09.1986 ) – Vertrag bis 2017 Defence: Emílson Cribari (geb. 06.03.1980 ) – Vertrag bis 2014 Luca Gasparotto (geb. 03.09.1995 ) – Vertrag bis 2014 Chris Hegarty (geb. 13.08.1992 ) – Vertrag bis 2015 Ross Perry (geb. 07.02.1990 ) – Vertrag bis 2015 Steven Smith (geb. 30.08.1985 ) – Vertrag bis 2015 Ricky Foster (geb. 31.07.1985 ) – Vertrag bis 2015 Bilel Mohsni (geb. 21.07.1987 ) – Vertrag bis 2015 Kyle McAusland (geb. 19.01.1993 ) – Vertrag bis 2015 Sebastien Faure (geb. 03.01.1991 ) – Vertrag bis 2015 Lee Wallace (geb. 21.08.1987 ) – Vertrag bis 2017 Midfield Andrew Mitchell (geb. 06.04.1992 ) – Vertrag bis 2014 Kyle Hutton (geb. 15.02.1991 ) – Vertrag bis 2014 Ian Black (geb. 14.03.1985 ) – Vertrag bis 2015 Nicky Law (geb. 29.03.1988 ) – Vertrag bis 2016 Dean Shiels (geb. 01.02.1985 ) – Vertrag bis 2016 David Templeton (geb. 07.01.1989 ) – Vertrag bis 2016 Lewis Macleod (geb. 16.06.1994 ) – Vertrag bis 2017 Robbie Crawford (geb. 19.03.1993 ) – Vertrag bis 2017 Barrie McKay (geb. 31.12.1994 ) – Vertrag bis 2017 Arnold Peralta (geb. 29.03.1989 ) – Vertrag bis 2017 Fraser Aird (geb. 02.02.1995 ) – Vertrag bis 2018 Attack Lee McCulloch (geb. 14.05.1978 ) – Vertrag bis 2015 Andrew Little (geb. 03.05.1989 ) – Vertrag bis 2015 Jon Daly (geb. 08.01.1983 ) – Vertrag bis 2015 Nicky Clark (geb. 03.06.1991 ) – Vertrag bis 2016 Bar Daly, we bought seasoned and not to old campaigners. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real PapaBear 0 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Great post dB and it really clarifies what McCoist is doing. If we take 1990 as the "perfect" date for a player to have been born (given where we are on our rehabilitation road), it looks like Ally is building a very well balanced squad indeed. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy steel 0 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Is the German for born not geborn? Or gebornen? Refuse to use Google translate when dB is here anyway. I love how the languages are virtually identical sometimes. Compared to my nasally attempts at pronouncing French in school, how easy it is to reach for the lower throat and rasp out some (no doubt inaccurate) German! 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilledbear 16 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Including Simonson that is 14 since we dropped out of the top League, not including Sandanza and Argy. When we return to the top League in two years time I make it half will be 30 or over. It's just not the way I wanted Rangers to go. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real PapaBear 0 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Is the German for born not geborn? Or gebornen? Refuse to use Google translate when dB is here anyway. I love how the languages are virtually identical sometimes. Compared to my nasally attempts at pronouncing French in school, how easy it is to reach for the lower throat and rasp out some (no doubt inaccurate) German! English is essentially a germanic language (from the tribe of the Angles who spoke Aengelisch which developed into English, with some French words thrown in. The French words came from the Normans who were, of course, the masters of the germanic peoples of England. For example, we have two words for cow/cow meat. The Norman masters didn't farm the animals, just ate the meat, so a cow (Kuh) which the Germans farmed becomes beef (bouef) which the French ate. This is not unconnected and very cool: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f54_1337075813 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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