Club confirm Lee Wallace and Kenny Miller suspended until further notice

[DevilBlue WeeThe 44]

10 hours ago, trublusince1982 said:

With our support and players all we will ever play is a dying game.

 

too focused on Celtic to build anything of note and too xenophobic to see European football has left us behind.

What utter nonsense.

 

We can't qualify for the Champions League if we can't beat Celtic (our biggest rivals all else aside) and you say what you did????????

 

Xenophobic  - oh my......I've heard some claptrap as to why we are not very good any more but that's just taken the biscuit. 

[trublusince1982 243]

 

 

 yes as a support we are definitely xenophobic. Any changes and we start crying for the British way or the so called rangers way.

 

We can't build anything because to do so would take time. Most of our support decide if we have had a good day dependent on what "they" have or did do, not on progression. Far more fans interested in just being better than them than being all we can be. Pretty much every foreign manager has been chased and slagged off, all because we know better. Yet we are a terrible footballing nation.

 

We learn from nobody and it shows. We rate foreigners who take up our way not their own. We scoff at tactics, dietitians and pretty much any advancements in football. This year alone has seen constant calls for long balls and just winning. Most couldn't care less if our style or ways mean we will never amount to anything in Europe, just so long as we do better than them.

 

playing from the back sees boos and derision if we aren't 5 up in twenty minutes. Our support knows very little of tactics or talks about such, as is the Scottish approach. Phone-ins are just filled with idiots having a go at enemies with zero talk of football. Coverage of football here tells us all we need to know about those reading and paying for it

 

Do do we even have a plan as a club? Are you aware of any plan and milestones? Do you want any? Or is it just one goal?

 

The only thing we are doing is scrambling around trying to find a quick fix that will see us best them. Nobody seems to care past that one want. It's sad.

[pete 2,499]

2 minutes ago, trublusince1982 said:

 

 

 yes as a support we are definitely xenophobic. Any changes and we start crying for the British way or the so called rangers way.

 

We can't build anything because to do so would take time. Most of our support decide if we have had a good day dependent on what "they" have or did do, not on progression. Far more fans interested in just being better than them than being all we can be. Pretty much every foreign manager has been chased and slagged off, all because we know better. Yet we are a terrible footballing nation.

 

We learn from nobody and it shows. We rate foreigners who take up our way not their own. We scoff at tactics, dietitians and pretty much any advancements in football. This year alone has seen constant calls for long balls and just winning. Most couldn't care less if our style or ways mean we will never amount to anything in Europe, just so long as we do better than them.

 

playing from the back sees boos and derision if we aren't 5 up in twenty minutes. Our support knows very little of tactics or talks about such, as is the Scottish approach. Phone-ins are just filled with idiots having a go at enemies with zero talk of football. Coverage of football here tells us all we need to know about those reading and paying for it

 

Do do we even have a plan as a club? Are you aware of any plan and milestones? Do you want any? Or is it just one goal?

 

The only thing we are doing is scrambling around trying to find a quick fix that will see us best them. Nobody seems to care past that one want. It's sad.

Exaggerating is also a form of Art. You also have people who only see the negative side of things. Think of the song: Always look on the bright side of life.

[buster. 4,808]

43 minutes ago, trublusince1982 said:

 

 

 yes as a support we are definitely xenophobic. Any changes and we start crying for the British way or the so called rangers way.

 

We can't build anything because to do so would take time. Most of our support decide if we have had a good day dependent on what "they" have or did do, not on progression. Far more fans interested in just being better than them than being all we can be. Pretty much every foreign manager has been chased and slagged off, all because we know better. Yet we are a terrible footballing nation.

 

We learn from nobody and it shows. We rate foreigners who take up our way not their own. We scoff at tactics, dietitians and pretty much any advancements in football. This year alone has seen constant calls for long balls and just winning. Most couldn't care less if our style or ways mean we will never amount to anything in Europe, just so long as we do better than them.

 

playing from the back sees boos and derision if we aren't 5 up in twenty minutes. Our support knows very little of tactics or talks about such, as is the Scottish approach. Phone-ins are just filled with idiots having a go at enemies with zero talk of football. Coverage of football here tells us all we need to know about those reading and paying for it

 

Do do we even have a plan as a club? Are you aware of any plan and milestones? Do you want any? Or is it just one goal?

 

The only thing we are doing is scrambling around trying to find a quick fix that will see us best them. Nobody seems to care past that one want. It's sad.

There is a debate to be had on some of those issues but your tone and language couldn't be more downbeat and pessimistic. 

 

What the latter does is make debate more difficult and lend itself to social media confrontational/polarised positions.

[Bill 13,717]

1 hour ago, trublusince1982 said:

 

 

 yes as a support we are definitely xenophobic. Any changes and we start crying for the British way or the so called rangers way.

 

We can't build anything because to do so would take time. Most of our support decide if we have had a good day dependent on what "they" have or did do, not on progression. Far more fans interested in just being better than them than being all we can be. Pretty much every foreign manager has been chased and slagged off, all because we know better. Yet we are a terrible footballing nation.

 

We learn from nobody and it shows. We rate foreigners who take up our way not their own. We scoff at tactics, dietitians and pretty much any advancements in football. This year alone has seen constant calls for long balls and just winning. Most couldn't care less if our style or ways mean we will never amount to anything in Europe, just so long as we do better than them.

 

playing from the back sees boos and derision if we aren't 5 up in twenty minutes. Our support knows very little of tactics or talks about such, as is the Scottish approach. Phone-ins are just filled with idiots having a go at enemies with zero talk of football. Coverage of football here tells us all we need to know about those reading and paying for it

 

Do do we even have a plan as a club? Are you aware of any plan and milestones? Do you want any? Or is it just one goal?

 

The only thing we are doing is scrambling around trying to find a quick fix that will see us best them. Nobody seems to care past that one want. It's sad.

There's something in several of your points but for the most part you're way over the top. Sure there are some dinosaurs among us but the majority of supporters are much more discerning and open minded than you give them credit for. Where I will agree with you is in the management of the club and the management of the football operation, both of which seem to lack published clear overall aims and a measurable plan to implement them.

[JohnMc 2,473]

3 hours ago, trublusince1982 said:

 

 

 yes as a support we are definitely xenophobic. Any changes and we start crying for the British way or the so called rangers way.

 

We can't build anything because to do so would take time. Most of our support decide if we have had a good day dependent on what "they" have or did do, not on progression. Far more fans interested in just being better than them than being all we can be. Pretty much every foreign manager has been chased and slagged off, all because we know better. Yet we are a terrible footballing nation.

 

We learn from nobody and it shows. We rate foreigners who take up our way not their own. We scoff at tactics, dietitians and pretty much any advancements in football. This year alone has seen constant calls for long balls and just winning. Most couldn't care less if our style or ways mean we will never amount to anything in Europe, just so long as we do better than them.

 

playing from the back sees boos and derision if we aren't 5 up in twenty minutes. Our support knows very little of tactics or talks about such, as is the Scottish approach. Phone-ins are just filled with idiots having a go at enemies with zero talk of football. Coverage of football here tells us all we need to know about those reading and paying for it

 

Do do we even have a plan as a club? Are you aware of any plan and milestones? Do you want any? Or is it just one goal?

 

The only thing we are doing is scrambling around trying to find a quick fix that will see us best them. Nobody seems to care past that one want. It's sad.

Taking Rangers first. Advocaat was welcomed and feted until the wheels came off, even then he gets very little criticism. For the most part his sides were a joy to watch, until the weren't. 

PLG was welcomed like a conquering hero, indeed with hindsight part of his problem was one of expectation. Too many of us expected Rangers to be playing like the great Arsenal sides. But things only turned sour for him when results and performances were  poor. 

Lastly Pedro. What can you say, right up to the end he had has supporters willing him to succeed and pleading to give him more time. I wasn't one of them but that's not because I'm a xenophobe it's because I didn't think he was a very good manager. 

 

If we have a fault as a support it's a lack of patience, but we're hardly alone in that. If a Rangers manager wants to keep his job his side needs to win. I think that's the same at the biggest club in any league. There's hardly a side in Scotland who hasn't tried a 'foreign' manager, mainly without much success. That can't be just down to us all being small minded, closet racists and more likely down to the quality of player we produce and the type of football they're suited too. 

Mark Wotte was warmly welcomed when he was appointed Performance director at the SFA. On this site the name of Preud'homme seems to be many's favourite to take us on. If he got the job will he be hunted if we lost to Falkirk in the League Cup and Celtic in the league, probably. But so would a 'British' manager.

 

There's a debate to be had around why a football mad country like Scotland can't get it's act together collectively or individually. But to right it off as xenophobia doesn't help that debate in the slightest. 

Edited April 23, 2018 by JohnMc

[craig 5,199]

4 hours ago, trublusince1982 said:

 

 

 yes as a support we are definitely xenophobic. Any changes and we start crying for the British way or the so called rangers way.

 

We can't build anything because to do so would take time. Most of our support decide if we have had a good day dependent on what "they" have or did do, not on progression. Far more fans interested in just being better than them than being all we can be. Pretty much every foreign manager has been chased and slagged off, all because we know better. Yet we are a terrible footballing nation.

 

We learn from nobody and it shows. We rate foreigners who take up our way not their own. We scoff at tactics, dietitians and pretty much any advancements in football. This year alone has seen constant calls for long balls and just winning. Most couldn't care less if our style or ways mean we will never amount to anything in Europe, just so long as we do better than them.

 

playing from the back sees boos and derision if we aren't 5 up in twenty minutes. Our support knows very little of tactics or talks about such, as is the Scottish approach. Phone-ins are just filled with idiots having a go at enemies with zero talk of football. Coverage of football here tells us all we need to know about those reading and paying for it

 

Do do we even have a plan as a club? Are you aware of any plan and milestones? Do you want any? Or is it just one goal?

 

The only thing we are doing is scrambling around trying to find a quick fix that will see us best them. Nobody seems to care past that one want. It's sad.

You are describing Scottish football fans as a whole, not just the Rangers support.  So you could perhaps have said that Scottish football, and its fans, is xenophobic, but chose instead the negativity towards your own.  Your prerogative I guess.

[Bluedell 5,343]

I guess that's what happens if you form your opinions by listening to radio phone-ins.

[ian1964 10,418]

Any updates on this ''internal investigation''?, why is it taking so long?.

[der Berliner 3,250]

I would assume it took but 10 mins. What was there to investigate? I doubt they'll ask every single player what has happened.

 

Might be that the club simply sees no need to distract from the preparations to the Scum game at the weekend?