Bluedell
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It's what I've been predicting for over 6 months http://www.gersnetonline.co.uk/vb/showpost.php?p=139608&postcount=9 together with a loss of �£12m (as he puts his head on the block)
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Perhaps you got the R and the T round the wrong way. The editor doesn't like t a i g for some reason.
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Correct. Should have made that clearer. �£20-�£30 plus �£5/month. Certainly affordable to most at that level.
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I see the RST are talking about an annual membership fee of �£80-�£90.
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Would he have been available to play for Rangers if Rangers had a game instead of Algeria? I doubt it very much, and he has really gone down in my estimation in recent weeks.
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The ongoing financing of the club needs to be addressed before any of this is realistic. Yes, the fans can own the club and have to pay an annual membership but what happens when the novelty wears off in a few years. Many may prefer not to pay their annual membership if they don't care who is on the board. We all know that there is apathy shown by a large section of the support and we could see membership dwindling. Do we need these funds as part of the ongoing income of the club or is it just extra cash? Will we obtain or even want financing facilities? How will they be used? If we have a few supporters elected to the board for a limited time period as has been suggested then we could find that they wish to use it all up sio that the club can be successful under their watch, and not have to worry about the future as it will be someone else's problem. Does this scenario preclude having a majority of fans on the board as was suggested by Miniblue? What happens if the club fails to qualify for the CL for 3 years in a row? Do we cut our cloth accordingly and cut back the wage bill? Will we be in a position to "speculate to accumulate"? It may be possible to overcome these issues, but they need to be addressed to ensure that any fan ownership proposals are taken seriously by the support.
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I'm really struggling to go as well due to my son's football times being changed.
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I'm not sure that Saturday will tell us that much.
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Sorry to be negative again but it says virtually nothing.
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I think that the point you made on Dave King having little or no control earleir in the thread is a good one, but it raises a couple of questions: Did he realise his lack of control when he made his investment initially (and that the club would be subsequently brought back under the MIH umbrella), or did he think he would have a lot of input? Did Dave King care about control/having input, and if not, is that unusual for guys with that amount of cash? My understanding is that a lot of the people around the Members Lounge were great Murray supporters, and over the years we had Bill Thornton, Ian Russell, Satty Singh etc, making loans to the club for some involvement on the board as associate directors or directors of Rangers Development Fund. These guys were only willing to make loans and not actually contribute cash into it, and they appear to have expected some position, however token, in return. It seems to me that experience has shown us that the big hitters would be expecting something major if they were making major contributions into the club, and would be expecting a directorship or similar. Perhaps we bring back the position of "associate" directors who have little influence but can have seats in the directors box etc, and this could fall under your privileges suggestion? However the major question is "would this be sufficient?" and I fear that it may not be.
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There was never much infighting within the fans' groups themselves. The Association has had board members on the RST board for a number of years and there has never been any issues between them. Likewise the RST has been a member of the assembly since its inception, therefore largely giving it a lot of support and these 2 organsiations were always going to move closer together given the friendship of the 2 heads of them. The problems have been with websites, and that will continue to a certain extent, although input from the likes of yourself on here and RM will obviously be a great help in overcoming some of it. The RST has shown a great reluctance to move outside its relationship with FF, eg its negative approach to the STS report, and it needs to show that it will be happy to encompass the larger Rangers family over the long term to gain some of the trust that has been lost, and not just at the moment when things are tough.
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Miniblue, firstly welcome to the site. Under your suggestion, you are saying that the fans would contribute a standard amount, and high net worth individuals could contribute more and get a seat on the board. However we as a club would not necessarily be maximising our income as there would be a large number of peiople inbetween who may be able to pay more, but nothing near the 6 or 7 figure sums that Smilies/Parks/Singhs etc of the world can. Can there be an additional incentive for higher funding while remaining within the OMOV model?
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Got to admit that I find that article a little scary. The RST may have expertise in a number of areas but I don't believe finance or the legal side are their strengths at the moment. Perhaps they have brought in some skills, but I'd hope that they are not trying to plan the future of the club without it.
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Latest article on the subject.
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If Ngog hadn't dived over the tackle, he would have probably got brought down by it anyway. I don't think it's so clear cut that it's definitely not a penalty. Where does anticipation of a tackle end and diving begin? FWIW, I didn't think it was a penalty but I can see why the ref gave it.
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Well thought-out posts, MF. Out of interest, in the quote above, do you see that return being in the form of dividends or just capital growth?
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Wow. Impartial, objective journalism. He'd never last in Scotland, but good on the man.
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Elish Angiolini doesn't seem too bothered about one half of the city.
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In a place of learning as well, I understand.
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And McGeady missed a penalty and missed a sitter from the rebound. And they had a great chance ruled off incorrectly for offside in injury time.
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Rangers 2 - 1 St Mirren: Player Ratings and MoM Poll
Bluedell replied to Frankie's topic in Rangers Chat
Only Miller haters would say that. :fish: I could name a few games both last season and this when Miller has been better. Some of Boyd's play was good, but some of his passing was poor and his work rate was only in line with others in the team, although admittedly better than it's been in the past. His finishing was average and a Boyd on the top of his game would have scored more. Why don't we get this level of effort from Boyd in every game? Hopefully he will continue this, but he's still got a way to go until his work rate is rated as more than acceptable. -
Kudos to the linesman who disallowed the late chance in injury time - Lawrence Kerrigan. Not sure what team he supports, but let's just say I've sung "Will your anchor hold" with him on many occasions when we were boys.
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Rangers 2 - 1 St Mirren: Player Ratings and MoM Poll
Bluedell replied to Frankie's topic in Rangers Chat
Fleck faded badly in the second half and didn't contribute much for large periods. I'd go for :lm: -
I thought that it always was open to non-members. The last one was very good, and by the sounds of it this one will be as well. However nothing really happened following the last one, and I feel the same thing could result. Unless the RST can get the club involved, then there is a high risk in nothing productive being achieved. Any idea what time it starts at? If I do go then I'll pay at the door, which I presume is allowed.
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Getting upset at "No surrender" while using the H word. I guess the irony escapes him?