barca72
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Who's Ronnie MacKay?
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For any salesman to be successful, the first thing he learns is 'know your product'. It looks like our investors missed that step. If as you say Zappa " but without the fans, there would be no Rangers.", then maybe the board and investors should let the fans do what pleases them, i.e. be the kind of Rangers' fans they want to be. I would ask of any of these fans who make the 'politically correct' argument, and who constantly tell us that there is nothing in the future but doom and gloom, to ask themselves how they would describe the perfect environment for bringing the fans back. Is it great football every game? Is it a manager that 'they' would be happy with? Is it a support who don't sing anything close to anything that can offend anyone? Some want a board who are fiscally responsible, some want a board to lead us on a campaign of regaining our money and status by taking legal steps to avenge us. Some want new owners, ... ad infinitum. Nobody seems to know what they do want but plenty are keen to tell us what they don't want. Every time you turn round, as a fan, there are numerous reasons being put forth not to go to the game. Hildy may be right when he says, 'The club that more senior fans grew up with probably ceased to be even before our current troubles', but if he is then he needs to lead his generation back to what the older fans grew up with. You see, if I can bend a phrase, I think there are too many indians and not enough chiefs. If we can look at the investors as using the board as their salesmen, then the first thing they have to do being in the West of Scotland, if I can steal a phrase from the east end, is bring back the thunder. Before we can be a force once again in Europe we must first dominate our own back yard. To do that we need a winning team on the field and a support who are enthusiastic, show pride in their team, and feel that it is their team that they are rooting for. I remember as a boy being lifted over the turnstiles and the anticipation of the kick off was palpable. We were there to support our team, have an enjoyable experience, and leave the game wishing that next week was tomorrow. The difference between then and now is we had responsible owners and we left the managing , and politicing, of the club to the board. We just supported the team, with no boycotts or card displays or anything else that would hurt the team. I realise after all of the turmoil and changes of the last few years things are different and as a support we must be vigilant. However, too many complaints coming from too many sources with too many solutions are cancelling each other out. If this club is to survive the fans must own the club again, not necessarily in stocks, but at least in their hearts and minds. In this regard, a return to our roots, or even a new mantra, needs to be encouraged by the leadership of the club. A new accord, and level of respect, between the leadership of the club and the support needs to be established
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Cup Winners Cup 1972 The second round saw Rangers play Sporting Lisbon from Portugal. Rangers led the first half of the first leg 3–0, but lost two goals in the second half to lead 3–2 going into the second leg. The second leg finished 3–2 to Sporting, 5–5 on aggregate. Willie Henderson scored for Rangers in extra time but Rangers then lost a goal with six minutes left to make it 6–6 on aggregate. What followed has been described as being one of the most bizarre incidents in the history of any European tournament The Dutch referee Laurens van Raavens failed to recognise that Rangers, having scored three away goals to Sporting's two, had won the tie. But the referee made both teams take five penalties each, with Rangers losing the shootout. After Rangers manager Willie Waddell pointed out the away goals rule to UEFA, the referee was overruled, the result overturned and Rangers were heading into the next round.
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The Goalie and the gaffers ice bucket challenge , oh plus the Easdales as well
barca72 replied to rbr's topic in Rangers Chat
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ICT 1-Scum 0. o.g. apparently. They looked toothless in the last 25 yds. c'mon Maribor, get it done !!
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Okay, thanks.
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What one was that?
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You would think that VB would have checked the veracity of the facts very thouroughly. They have never before had to remove an article because of the threat of legal action.
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If this can be corroborated then Regan must go ... http://vanguardbears.co.uk/stewart-regans-succulent-lamb.html Stewart Regan's Succulent Lamb Written by: Admin Thursday, 21st of August 2014 The date was 27th of July 2012 and Scotland's biggest and most successful football club faced oblivion. Just two days before the club were due to face Brechin City in the Angus town, Rangers FC had no licence to play football. This doomsday scenario had been created by twisted individuals representing the SFA, SPL and others. Their determination to see Rangers punished to the full for an as yet unproven "charge" (a charge which the club was subsequently found not guilty) was matched only by an underlying driven agenda to see Rangers damaged as much as possible, perhaps beyond repair. The club had been given a stark choice - accept sanctions and trophy stripping or be granted no licence to play football, in any league, anywhere. Rangers, with Ally McCoist and Charles Green representing, had fought bravely to retain the clubs' history, heritage and sporting record in the face of those determined to steal it away at any cost. In defiance of the Scottish Football authorities equivalent of a firing squad they fought valiantly for a club that had already lost most of its first team squad following SPFA and agent interference allied to greedy individuals who saw a fast buck. The future of the Scottish game lay in the hands of those men sat round a table. Their dirty game of chess had reached stalemate; their attempted "Five-Way Agreement" had morphed into a carefully contrived monster that included: •stripping of 5 SPL titles •stripping of 6 Scottish Cups •a signing embargo The message delivered was loud and clear. Accept "guilt", and accept our punishments or we put you out of the game. We feel it's necessary to repeat this; no ruling had yet been made on EBTs from Lord Nimmo Smith, and two years and two appeals later, the EBTs are still judged in law to be loans that did not give Rangers any footballing advantage in the years the scheme was in use. Whilst SPL Chief Ralph Topping was regaling anyone who'd listen with tales of Armageddon and insisting the SFL accept a club the SPL had thrown to the wolves, the SPL looked to maximise revenue from that same club they had just kicked out. So, on that day 27th of July 2012, the last possible day that agreement could be reached, the SFA's lawyers Levy & Macrae hosted all senior stakeholders in the Rangers issue to their office in St Vincent Street, Glasgow. By this stage, Rangers had forced the title stripping off the agenda, however, they were not to be meekly handed a punishment free passage in to the SFL. Other measures were being quickly discussed. The determination of some to punish the club as much as possible at a late stage where desperation saw them more likely to accept to get the licence and keep the club alive hadn't waned. The presence of Duff and Phelps could not help the Rangers cause; they were now bystanders only interested that the business entity they were representing wouldn't have any financial liability thrown in its direction. With a draft agreement on paper and separate signature pages at the back (to be signed upon all attendees reaching agreement on the conditions of Rangers re-entry in to the SFL and SFA), talks got underway. All in attendance agreed that a conclusion had to be reached and papers signed off that day, no matter what. The future of Scottish Football and that of its biggest member club was at stake. Reaching agreement on any issue was difficult, and the meeting was interrupted several times as Stewart Regan answered his mobile phone and left the room. An expectant wife was calling from Yorkshire. Mr. Regan was reminded he had a dinner date that evening. With no indication that middle ground could be found regards the many sticking points and Scottish football facing disaster the SFA Chief Executive took a remarkable and shocking decision that reinforced the belief of many that he is inept and has zero interest in the welfare of the beautiful game here. At 5pm, with the document far from finalised and even further from being agreed, he took the SFA signature page from the table and signed it, informing all of those present that he would put his name to whatever was agreed, had a dinner engagement with his wife and friends in Leeds, and wasn't going to cancel. In essence, Regan signed a blank piece of paper. The Chief Executive of the SFA, with overall responsibility for the game in Scotland, was more interested in having dinner, than leading the decision makers to reach an agreement to safeguard the future of both Rangers, and Scottish Football. The meeting lasted approximately another four hours before a conclusion was reached. Rangers were forced to accept their second transfer embargo in 4 months, and various other financial penalties including the signing over of television rights, and the payment of football debts, on the agreement that they wouldn't have rights to SPL prize money, or debts owed to the club. There were a number of revisions to the draft document in Regan's absence which already had his signature, as he travelled to Leeds and made his way out to dinner. To the best of our knowledge Regan didn't phone anyone in attendance after his departure for a progress update. Regan's signature page was simply inserted into the final document and issued as the Five-Way Agreement. This absolute disdain for the future of Rangers and Scottish football has never left that room, until now. One month earlier, Mr Regan had shown a similar lack of interest when an email written by him had been leaked to the press. In his email, amongst a bunch of 'decisions' he had pre-determined, Regan revealed that while Scottish Football was in disarray, he was off on holiday. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/Regan-controversial What would Regan have done the following day if any of the people in the room had simply scribbled 'I, Stewart Regan, knowing that I am unfit to hold the position of Chief Executive of the SFA, hereby tender my immediate resignation.' Vanguard Bears henceforth ask that members of the SFA, SPFL and SFL demand Stewart Regan's resignation. This man should not be heading up Scottish Football, especially at this very crucial time where attendances are dwindling and sponsorship is drying up. The phrase "NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE" has never been more apt.
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvPtaGFIMAALULL.jpg I hope this is the letter from Barcelona congratulating Cork City in reaching their milestone. It's class for the big clubs to encourage the minnows, that's all. I'm sure they got many more from other clubs. I doubt that there is any great conspiracy that you are seeking.
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I know, I wanted to see Murdoch. However, what kind of price would be put on the season if we are set up by Boyd getting his hat-trick, Shiels finally putting someone through for a goal and Templeton looking good without being scythed down every other attacking run?
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For the most part I would agree with your argument for playing the youngsters. In the game against Clyde, however, I agree with Ally. This team was feeling the heat after an average pre-season and a poorish start to the season. It was necessary that this team came out and put in a strong showing if for nothing else than to gain a bit of confidence. I feel that the time to allow youngsters their head is when the rest of the team has the confidence to carry them should they stumble. I know you follow the youngsters a lot and may be a wee bit biased for giving them a chance, but we have to stamp our authority before we take a chance.
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FGS, what is wrong with acting in a perfectly civilized manner towards another club who have reached a milestone on their journey? We were papped out of the SPL because for the main part we had no allies. There are more clubs than Cork City watching Rangers' actions. Hell even that Raith Rovers chairman, I forget his name, had to admit that Rangers were trying to be a part of the league community. Our time to lead will come again. Walk before you run.
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The police/stewards put a line of personnel down each side of the away support. Why would that be any more difficult for two sections than it is for one section? Sounds strange.
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That's being respectful. Kudos.
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The dwelling place of the dead is in the heart of the living. Remember him well. Bye, fellow bear.
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Looks like the media have given up on Legia ... http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/500567/No-hope-for-Legia-Warsaw-while-Maribor-lose-league-game-ahead-of-Celtic-clash No hope for Legia Warsaw while Maribor lose league game ahead of Celtic clash LEGIA WARSAW star Miroslav Radovic admits his side have no hope of seeing their Champions League dream being resurrected today at their appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport. Published: Mon, August 18, 2014
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No, have you? It was all he could do to get through the presser without apologizing.
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We know what the scum management are like, but look at Mulgrew's body language and facial expressions on this video. These players may accept the chance they are getting, but their sense of "sporting integrity" is under severe pressure. Big riddy ... http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/celtic/288351-charlie-mulgrew-cant-believe-his-luck-after-second-euro-reprieve/
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Even Lennon would have been embarassed by that !!!
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You can almost taste the end result now. Well done to VB and PZJ.
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Celtic: Safe-standing proposals not met with approval
barca72 replied to Zappa's topic in General Football Chat
GCC feeling the pressure from the land deals. This is just a tactic to show us that they don't grant everything that C1888c requests. Or am I just too cynical? -
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Anybody surprised? EXCLUSIVE: Celtic anger over Legia Warsaw's Champions League proposal http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/497877/EXCLUSIVE-Celtic-anger-over-Legia-Warsaw-Champions-League-proposal A Celtic statement read: “We are disappointed by Legia Warsaw’s comments. “This is entirely a matter for UEFA and its processes. “Accordingly, we will reserve further comment for the appropriate time.”
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Some people feel that a team that takes advantage of such a clerical error is not what they wish to support in a sporting context. What will this do to the attendances at C1888c's next American tour? At some point, it must surely be said, that what goes around comes around.