pete

. It looks like they have shareholders and a club membership.

I seem to remember him saying that no one could own more than 50% of Dortmund. That is off the top of my head though so i don't know exactly.

Unfortunately i am not as far up on German football as you seem to think. I do work with Germans though one who is Dortmund crazy so i can ask him how Dortmund works. I went to see them play Mainz on Saturday and the football was atrocious. Huge Stadium but a concrete block, Ibrox is 1000 times nicer. I am going to Dortmund-HSV on 23rd of January. I will be secretly supporting HSV while travelling on a Dortmund supporters bus. I must admit the guys on the supporters bus are fantastic and on the way back home have to listen to chants of FC Twente from the Dutch guy's and there's only one Glasgow Rangers from moi.

As i said in "The way forward" post, Chelsea are probably 100million in the red and are estimated to owe Abramovitch around 700 million in interest free loans. If anything happens to him i would imagine Chelsea will be finished.

I should have waited a year with writing the millennium bells. I could have added another very important chapter. http://www.gersnetonline.co.uk/newsite/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=776&Itemid=2

I am afraid i believe this is the worst Rangers team i have seen in my life. I also don't think i have ever seen a right back ever playing so poor.

I would have gone with that Ian, yesterday was far too important to be dropping your best players. I doubt if a fine would have any effect though it is peanuts to these guy's.

I am just a big softy and i know how it is to miss friends and family. I did the exact same thing a few years ago. Some people have more trouble getting used to living abroad than others.

Just a thought we could replace Walter with George Burley as he is free at the moment.

The way i saw it was that his tactics in the second half were not to cross the half-way line. They worked a treat.

I think a little thought can be made that these guy's spending a night with there families will probably be better for them than a Friday training session. Even if they are not super fit that one Friday won't make the difference.

First of all i want to say i don't know the full facts of what went on but i will say these guy's are super fit athletes. If they play a game on Wednesday they do not need to train on a Friday morning before a game on a Saturday. I would give these players permission to be with their families for a day as long as they are back and rested before the game on the Saturday. Even if they arrived back in Britain at 2am Saturday morning they would be fit for 3pm.

I agree Fan ownership is not an option we need a millionaire like David Murray to take the club forward.

On Saturday we play the sheep, tonight we were lambs to the slaughter.

I must admit i was confident we would come out on top tonight. As Ally said their league position, the fact we dominated the 2nd half in Stuttgart and i watched Dortmund Mainz on Saturday and they were both crap.

Thanks Mainflier for the news that we are at or near the bottom. I was frightened we were only half way down. You have brightened me up.

So you will never listen then.

I think we will win easier than we think tonight. I am going for 3-1.

Alex McLiesh let Craig Moore play after his Olympic showing.

I agree with that.

Exactamondo! 2:)

Against Celtic would be fantastic.....

Your right MF my post was made on a Google, probably the same as the spanner,

Yes seriously. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/8365091.stm

Nah don't believe it either unless J.K Rowling's Husband is a Rangers fan and i believe in Fairies and wizards. I prefer the fan ownership route anyway.