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It depends when you're talking about but I'd say a majority had deep concerns about Murray. I know there were issues as the protest outside the stadium but at that point, a majority were sharing the concerns. The anti-protest people were in the minority at that point, IMO. The problem was that few were offering alternatives. As for the spivs, John Brown didn't have a clue what was going on, and caused more harm than good with his "show us the title deeds" rants and wanting a Celtic fan to buy the club.

My best guess is that it was King that they bought the shares from but that may become clear once the shareholders list on the website has been updated. It hasn't yet. People at the club wouldn't be that interested in buying them as they would prefer to buy new shares so that their cash was going into the club. We don't know for sure, but C1872 would be shouting about it if they had offered their cash and the board ignored their offer. The wording of their statement heavily implies that they hadn't contacted the club. Again we don't know for sure but presumably the club would be happy to issue shares whenever they get a sizable offer from a suitable person. Their priority is getting cash and they're not going to put people on a waiting list. Agreed, although they aren't on an even footing. C1872 can't expect the club to come running to them to ask for money every time there's a share issue. the have to approach the club, particularly since the last thing we heard was that C1872 didn't have the cash to buy any more of Dave King's shares. That's a matter of opinion, one which I strongly disagree with. My belief, as a member, is that C1872 should ALWAYS look to buy shares from the club, where possible, so that the club benefits. However I'm not given the opportunity to vote on where they buy their shares from, despite their claims that all decisions are made by the members. The C1872 Board and shadow director decide that themselves.

Yes although just to clarify that it wasn't a physical threat but it was made clear that the person would not be welcome on the board.

A member of this forum was threatened when wanting to stand. Other people have failed a suitability test. There's also the well-documented case (on FF) of Charles Lewis et al, when they wanted to stand. Requiring 14 (I think) proposers when you don't know who are members seems a bit OTT.

Poor C1872. Waiting for the club to ask them to invest, rather than being proactive and going to the club and telling them they've got cash to invest. I know from personal experience that you have to go to the club when you want to invest money and you can't wait for them to approach you as it won't happen. C1872 have not said they were prevented from investing. They have just said that the club didn't ask them to invest. The club allowed them to invest last time they said they wanted to. There's no reason to think that they wouldn't this time. Dave King said that C1872 didn't have the cash to buy some of his shares so why would the club think that they did. All it would have taken was an email but C1872 wanted to buy from this other party as they did previously.

You'd expect Jim Hannah to still have sources as to what was going on.

Like reaching a European final? If C1872 were serious about wanting to improve matters they would be investing in the club and not using the cash to buy from some unknown third party.

He's still a boy learning how to play in a different league. You're correct about him going missing and I wouldn't start him against Celtic. However his potential is huge and we would be able to sell him on for a big profit after a year or two. If we can afford to spend the £5 million then I think we should. He'll learn how to play the big games, like Aribo and Bassey did, and become a much bigger influence. Think where Bassey was 18 months ago. Tillman is 2.5 years younger. It is a gamble but I think it's worth it, although it becomes a moot point if he doesn't want to stay.

They have shown that they will ignore any suggestions made to them that doesn't fit into their plans and they've made it impossible for any member to join the board without the current board's approval.

When did they refuse to sell shares to C1872? If that had happened recently then C1872 would have taken great delight in telling us. C1872 did claim that in the past and it was proven to be untrue. I really doubt if the club even consider what % C1872 have when they decide to issue shares. If C1872 have money to invest in the club then all they need to do is let the club know that they wish to do so.

Maybe they could have said to the board that they had cash to invest? They don't need to wait for a meeting. They could have sent off an email.

Agreed. A very poor cross that got lucky.

I've listened to some of the "Dominant" podcasts on H&H, which Martyn did, and they are outstanding. I went to most of the games home and away during 9IAR but there was still plenty that I learned about the period as well as being reminded about many of the games. I've heard that you can still read the book(s) even if you've listed to the podcast, so will try and get round to acquiring it.

That's impressive! However what does it actually mean? Real Madrid in the last 5 years have won the CL twice, been semi-finalists and reached the last 16 twice. How could we possibly have more points than them? Edit - is it because we had all the qualifying rounds and got loads of points from them?

Welcome to the club and to the site! I hope you end up feeling confident enough to take part in our discussions soon. The club normally put tickets on sale 3-4 weeks before a game, I believe, but there's also the resale site called Seatsub where unused season tickets go on sale. Most league games will end up being fairly full, although the atmosphere can vary. The old firm games are next to impossible to get tickets for, unfortunately. Please feel free to reach out by DM through the site if you have any specific questions or need any advice or help.

Surely he'd be a good advert for the "Everyone, Anyone" campaign.

Hmm. It's a difficult one and it's good that you're seeking opinions. I know that I won't have anything to do with the Rangers Review as it helps subsidise The National as well as being part of the hateful Newsquest group. However I don't believe BBC Scotland have been as bad as they were and the advantage of agreeing to take part gives you the option of stepping away and explaining why on social media, which would be more powerful than just saying 'no' now, which would just be ignored by everyone. I guess there would be some level of criticism within the support if you do take part. I'm abstaining from the actual vote as I can't bring myself to vote yes.

Yup, that's the reality of having a crap TV deal.

I doubt any offer would value the shares at much over 25p, if at all. I believe it's new cash. However my uninformed opinion is that it's potentially funds to help the stadium redevelopment, including the disabled facilities and maybe replacement funds that have been spent on NEH rather than it being anything related to future share sales.

It's irrelevant whether it's 447 million shares at five bob or 4.47 million shares at a pony.

I use the Horse with no Name's excellent spreadsheet, which has all the results and line-ups in our history. An incredible resource. Hopefully he won't mind me linking to it. Rangers 1872-2023 Results - 1 (mediafire.com)

I'd be looking to sell Hagi and Kamara. They're our 2 most sellable assets that aren't going to be first team starters next season.

You want 6 centre backs?

I thought Morelos had a great game, Did well, playing wide early on, won several defensive headers got a couple of goals and generally played well. However Cantwell just shaded it.

I can see both sides of the argument. TB has a good point, plus there's some who just want to be able to access their ticket when they want and can't be bothered with the whole seatsub thing. However the club want to maximise attendees and maximise revenue so can I understand that as well. I know of several seats that are generally unoccupied for most games and the club must be frustrated by this. The conditions are obviously changing so if you want to buy your season ticket then you're agreeing to this. I guess if you're TB and you want to protest then maybe the answer is to stick your ticket on Seatsub an hour before kick-off, if they still allow that.