Bluedell

I've corrected your post.

If you were to win the first 13 bets (say on roulette) are you really going to risk �£16K on your next bet?

Apparently went out of his way to shake hands with the Rangers blind fans before the last game, and highlighted that Papac sending-off was incorrect as well as his own player. Seems like a credit to his club.

I think Carling have said that no talks about the future have taken place yet but are scheduled for later this year. My take on it is that the story is true but it's not in anyone's interest to have it made public yet.

Calscot, the funding just isn't there. I presume that virtually none of the funding for the overall project was coming from the club or MIH and if it disappears the project isn't happening. MIH is up to its tits in loans already and would also find it virtually impossible to get funding, even if it wanted to. The expansion of the ground was only part of the overall project, I believe, and would be impossible without the rest of it happening. Saying that, I see some of the Hinshelwood estate has already been demolished so a minimal part of it may happen, but I'm guessing that's just GCC using their budget that was already committed.

I have similar feelings. I went to Wembley a couple of times and was in Cardiff when Stein died and went to a lot of games at Hampden. I lost a lot of enthusiasm due to Roxburgh, and even more with Craig Brown, due to the way that Rangers players were treated. How John Brown never got a cap was beyond me. It's a real shame as it would be nice to care more about our national team, but I have had no wish to go to a Scotland game for many years, and often don't bother watching their games on the TV. I still want them to win, but not with any degree of passion. The boy who went to bed in tears because we lost against to Peru is long gone.

A majority not wearing colours? One wearing green? Hmmmm. Virtually every Gers fan I saw in Manchester was wearing colours of some sort.

I'm guessing that there was some pressure being put on GCC by the club (quid pro quo for the Commenwealth games?), but the credit crunch has put paid to parts of the project, at least for the moment, and we may never find out the full extent of what was planned.

I'm still having problems with the .net domain. Is it going to be fixed?

To win the CL 3 times, and then have 10 years in the wilderness? Yeah, I'd take that. Totally memorable. Totally unforgettable. I'd still be on a high during the 10 years. Advocaat's team were effectively store-bought. I don't remember anyone complaining about that. People will not worry about how success comes. In addition, it could be argued that this season's signings were "store-bought" courtesy of HBOS. :devil:

I use TravisTrek mousemats both at home and in the office. Great mousemats! I've met him at a couple of Rangers nights out. What a guy.

Seems like it would be easier to name those who don't.

Yeah, slumming it when I come on here.

Speak for yourself.

I sing it all the time. Just a shame we can't to it to rebellious Scots nowadays. Celebrity Big Brother would certainly be looking for a few new contestants.

It was sabotaged a little, but it's been read by over 900 people to date, so the issue is certainly causing people to think about it. Well done.

Was any reason given?

My comments are in blue.

Yeah. Disgraceful and quite disturbing.

Don't ya just hate it when that happens. I enjoyed answering your post BTW. As Frankie said earlier, it's good to get an opposing viewpoint.

I remember we said exactly the same thing about 5 years ago. It got quickly abandonded.

Which VB poster is behind this, if you don't mind saying? If it's a problem, I understand. I think the approach here is slightly unusual and it will be interesting to see if it works. It's certainly been an outrage at the way the song has been villified.

Less relevant than the RST's point. Less relevant than the RST's point. You think that a midfield with Dailly, McCulloch and Adam should be beating anyone? Sorry, disagree. Smith knew he had problems in the centre midfield but but the wrong players prior to the game. Free kicks seem to consist of Boyd hitting the ball straight into the wall. how many corners have you seen taken that don't get past the first defender? Surely basic stuff. That sort of thing should be worked out in training. So the support can't criticise unless they have all the answers? The RST have given plenty of advice in the past (their 15 point plan , for example) much of which has been ignored. At the end of the day, the strategic plan is the responsbility of Bain and Murray. That's what they get paid for. They have failed by apparently not having one. I'm not sure of the point that you are trying to make here. U19s are pointless unless the make it into the first team. The jury is still out in respect of this, but I'm hearing rumours that the U19s are not impressed by the current set-up at MP (particularly with the coaches). I presume that the point that they are making is that we are having to sell Boyd (our top scorer) to finance the purchase of Lafferty or Velicka and Edu. I have sympathy with your viewpoint. I presume that the RST are comparing us to Celtic, but I believe that they are better at saying that they got more than we did. However there are a few examples such asJRod , who was let go for nothing, but was in the French squad within 2 months, which appear to be negligence by our management team. Qualification fto the CL and reaching the final of the UEFA cup and we still couldn't make a profit. We had to sell hutton to do that. We vastly overpaid bonuses, and Murray and Bain have not been criticised enough for this. The club have the primary responsibility here. The RST have a small percentage of the support. The club seem unable to relate to a lot of the support and are unwilling to interact with them, which is disgraceful. Murray has actually been very successful at attracting inward investment, and I don't believe this point by the RST is valid. However at least the RST are trying to raise funds through Gersave. I'd agee it's a difficult position, but the club have made virtually no attempt to argue in behalf of the fans. At every juncture they are happy to take the easy option or not get involved, and allow the support to be criticised, often unfairly (Spiers, Keevins, RC et al). However there are times that the support doesn't help itself. Are you trying to say that the club should not defend it's support because a few people in the support have raised some valid criticism? Sorry, I don't agree with you, and don't see it as moronic in the slightest, although would agree that the wording could be improved. Morale is generally low, but that can change very quickly and I'd agree that this point should not have been raised. I don't see that the RST have an obligation to consult all Rangers fans. They act on behalf of their members. I don't believe a mass survey would work anyway. have you ever tried to hand out leaflets outside Ibrox? I have and a vast majority won't be interested. I also disagree with Frankie on the point that they should have consulted their membership on this. However there should have been more consultation with other fans groups to get them on board before it was released.

Agreed. Perhaps getting a ref to admit he made 2 mistakes is too much to ask for, and we were the lucky ones.

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