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  1. Tannochsidebear
    I believe a position is available on the RST board for a rep from the Association, but that the Association does not have anyone stepping forward to take this up at this time.
  2. Tannochsidebear
    Delighted to hear of the passing of one of the most poisonous vile writers this country has had to endure over the last few years, and that is quite a list he has managed to get near the top of. While it may be sad for his friends and family, and for them I offer my condolences, but the amount of utter nonsense and bigoted claptrap he wrote and spoke of, especially in the last few years, means his passing will not be a loss to journalism or football.
  3. Tannochsidebear
    I also heard the "reasoning" behind the categories, but it doesn't make it right! Have focus groups ever been good for anything? This has been clearly orchestrated from the outset, and while I am glad some good bears have been appointed, I sigh at the opportunity to do this right that has been missed, and am sadly waiting for the inevitable day when this fans board realise that anything important that they propose or ask that isn't part of the owners thinking is rejected. Now that the first meeting is out of the way and email addresses set up, when will the fans board be arranging a full meeting with the club board to quiz them on the many many faults and areas of concern that are obviously needing addressed? Also, have we been told who has been appointed office bearers?
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    Just looking down that list of reps again and I am sitting here shaking my head at the categories. Who in their right mind came up with these? Reps for Glasgow fans, ethnic minorites, females, under 18's are all absolute nonsense while they refused to allow RSC's, the RST/Association any rep. Are Glasgow based fans likely to have different interests that are not already covered by ST/non ST reps? Same goes for kids/females/ethnics. Absolutely stinks of lack of thought and desperation and is so so sad as this is something I have wanted to be created for years but it has been done all wrong. Then again as a ST holder for the last 20+ years up until this summer, a RSC secretary and also been involved in the RFWG and other initiatives over the years, I dont even get a vote.
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    I am not going to this (in London tomorrow), but got the jist of it from CH at the RST AGM last Friday night. It is clear they are going to call for a boycott, but unclear how many games they are going to call it for. It was ironic that of the two or three who indicated they were in agreement with a boycott, they had indicated that they had already stopped going anyway. Dont know why they voted then but hey-ho. I believe the boycott is wrong, and I told CH that on Friday. He is clearly a very frustrated Bear, like a lot of us, who is trying to do something he hopes will force more pressure on the board/shareholders to sell up and leave. On one hand he believes that the board will put us into Admin ONLY if it suits their (unknown to us) agenda, and if Admin is not in their interests then it wont happen. I had to ask why in that case call for a boycott when even an empty ground wont put us into admin or get rid of them unless it suits them? Better than doing nothing was pretty much the reply and it was turned round to ask what I was doing instead. While I wasn't the one calling for the boycott, I believe the only way to get our club back is to buy it back, paying them whatever is necessary to get rid of them. If only we had a share scheme or two where Rangers supporters could go and buy shares in the club and therefore increase our shareholding, clout and potentially get enough to get a veto on ground sale/leaseback. It seems like a long way away given the current shareholding, but the ordinary fans already hold about 12% of the club individually, with the share schemes are now at around 1% each I think. If there are 80M issued shares at a current price of around 20p, that is around £16M for the lot. We dont need the lot, we need around 25% collectively and we are halfway there already. If every fan who has not gone back this season (around 20,000) were to pay their ticket money (£20) into a share scheme instead for every home game this season so far, we would already have £2.8M in a bank account which could buy us 14M shares. And that is without any overseas bears or bears who have gone to the games contributing at all. We could buy our club in a matter of months if we had the right marketing, motivation, unity and personalities involved. We should have done it in administration but we all waited on the Millionaire of choice turning up with a suitcase and we got Chuck instead. We cant go back and have our time again, but there is absolutely nothing to stop us doing it now. Nothing other than apathy, amatuerism, and a lack of cohesion.
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    Agree with most of this, and sadly the bit I put in bold is all too true with our online community these days. If you speak to Bears who do not frequent the online community, they dont really get all fussed about these wind-ups, and dont seem to have the same blood-pressure issues either!
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    And you wonder why we have some "celebrity" fans that think twice about "outing" themselves as bears. It seems you get just as much abuse from your own kind as the bheasts these days. Very sad indeed.
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    Come on guys/gals don't be shy. Whatever we all disagree and debate about on here, when Bluenoses get together over a meal and a few sherbets it is always a worthwhile night out in my experience.
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    So it was the other way around! Cheers Zappa.
  10. Tannochsidebear
    I thought the HH share sale was in excess of 4M shares, but Ashley has bought exactly 3M shares to take his total shareholding up to 9%, So who bought the other 1m+ shares?
  11. Tannochsidebear
    I have said the same for 3 years now. Name me a position in our team and there will be at least 3/4 players better than Jig to play there, but he has never been dropped. But he's a good guy and one of us so it doesn't matter if he can't play the game, mark anyone, tackle, pass, organise or read the game.
  12. Tannochsidebear
    There is no official boycott by any Rangers fans group currently in place. There is one group, SOS, that is currently polling it's members on this. However I would guess that the vast majority of guys signed up as members of SOS already don't go to Ibrox so it wont make much difference. The more mainstream fans groups like the Assembly, Association and Trust are all not in favour of a boycott, but purely ask all Rangers fans to make their own decisions on this and ST renewals. Asking Rangers supporters not to go to Rangers games is a step too far for many thousands of Bears, who while hating the current regime and wanting rid of them as quickly as possible, cannot see it within themselves to not make the weekly pilgrimage to see the team. Back the team, sack the regime seems to sum it up for many. Also taken into consideration is the fear from many supporters that a boycott will lead to another administration event, and may not even rid us of the current charlatans in charge of the club if the manage the situation properly with a pre-pack. Also a worry for these fans is the scenario where, as a last resort, the owners decide to do a sale/leaseback of our stadium in a bid to raise cash to stay in power. I know many fans who think this way and their hearts cannot allow themselves to have contributed to that by staying away.
  13. Tannochsidebear
    The split between RSC's and ST/public sale of away tickets still requires to be looked at. A large number of ST holders who tick for away tickets end up giving these tickets to RSC's, yet the split given to RSC's is small in comparison, and I believe it has been reduced again over the last couple of years. When the ST holders cancel their tickets that they have been allocated, and the sponsors dont want their tickets, again it is the RSC's that get the email offering extra tickets and they are pretty much always snapped up by them. Obviously BH is not a member of a RSC and therefore may not be inclined to agree that the allocation splits between ST and RSC is the correct one, so if I can ask where you stand on this issue it will be interesting to know what representation the RSC's (the biggest collective chunk of match-attending Rangers fans) are going to have in this new RFB. I noticed that in amongst some ludicrous categories, there was not one for RSC's. That in itself was not a surprise given what I expect this RFB to be, but it remains a glaring hole in representation for a huge number of Rangers fans.
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    Been too busy work-wise for last couple of days so only catching up here now. On pricing, it has been well known for many years that the prices ratch up when Rangers come to town. The usual explanation is that there are added police costs. There have been a few examples in the last couple of season, Berwick for one IIRC. Some google-ing will help no doubt. I have previously taken this up with Doncaster when I met him with the RFWG, and he deflects the issue as being one for each clubs own policy, and will not set rules to defend the fans from this. On the OF game, I personally will not go to the piggery again for a league match while prices remain at around 50% inflated from any other match. The police dictate what amount of tickets are given to each club, the clubs cannot do anything about this, but are probably quite happy with the arangements anyway. Logistically, the shape of our ground makes the Broomy the ideal stand to give them. You couldnt give them half of it, or shove them into the corner due to turnstiles, toilet facilities etc. The same goes for the piggery, the amount and placement of our ticket allocation is the only natural way of giving us a share which works logistically. The police will not be wanting to change this for a long time to come, unless it is to a no away fans policy.
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    As the away fans rep, I am assuming you will be meeting with the Association's Drew Roberton asap to get a grip on away fans issues as this is very much their field of expertise. I would also point out some causes for concern that always come up for away fans include a lack of child & concession tickets available, the profiteering by other clubs in raising normal ticket prices when Rangers come calling, lack of tickets in general for away fans, and the poor share given to RSC's by our ticket office which has caused many good RSC's to either chuck it altogether, use cars or share buses with other RSC's. Good luck with your appointment and in sorting out the above! I have my doubts about the reasoning and real value of the membership scheme from within the club and do not think for a second that you will be allowed any real powers to look after our supporters or take our board to task for their many failings, but the proofed their way is yet to be established. The first task should be to establish fortnightly (at least) meetings, with strict deadlines imposed on the club to reply to any concerns raised. Quarterly meetings will get nothing done. Full and transparent minutes of meetings, both internal & with club officials, should be published within 24 hours of each meeting. Meetings between fans board reps and the club should only occur when at least 3 fans board reps are present.
  16. Tannochsidebear
    On my bus we do a first goalscorer sweep for every away game. Own goals don't count for this purpose and the prize rolls over to the second goal. If the game finishes 1-0 with an o.g. Being the only goal, we give the prize as if it was 0-0 (the ref wins it!). I agree with Zappa in that it should in this case be Shiels that wins the points. Shame I picked Boyd!
  17. Tannochsidebear
    Sounds like pushing him too hard to get back quicker and made it worse, or perhaps a mis-diagnosis in the first place. I am not really buying the freak accident line being pushed here by the club.
  18. Tannochsidebear
    Absolutely disgusting tactics by whoever it was to try to discredit a very worthy candidate for the membership board. I wouldn't be surprised if it was internal at the club given FS's prior dealings with them in showing them up to be idiotic at best. Who would want that type of person holding you to account at board meetings? (Me for one!) Anyway, supposition without any evidence or information on my part and I will leave it at that, whilst hoping FS wins his category at the election (if allowed to continue to seek election!) and can bring some bite to this perceived charade.
  19. Tannochsidebear
    At the outset when the RFFF was being set up Mark was asked to get involved as he has a lot of clout through his website and his dealings with the RST. It was him who was asked to get involved, not any particular organisation, as he is very good at getting the message out to a large number of Rangers supporters. I know this to be 100% accurate as I got it straight from the guy that asked him to go on the RFFF.
  20. Tannochsidebear
    The vote by SOS is a fairly useless exercise. If it doesn't return a massive majority in favour of a boycott I will be totally amazed. I would also imagine that most of those voting already dont go to games, either in protest or for financial or geographic reasons. Boycotts are a very personal thing, not something groups should be organising. If you want to spread the word and arrange boycotts and picket lines outside shareholders offices, that would be much more productive IMO. Start a campaign against the shareholders who are propping up this regime, that is more important. Let the fans who hate the regime but cannot turn their back on the team continue to do so. I would never dream of castigating any Rangers fan who wanted to buy a ticket and go and watch a Rangers game. Is that not what we are all about after all?
  21. Tannochsidebear
    I'm number 42 btw. But I think the point is being missed here. The point is that 8000 different Rangers supporters have joined the RST at one point or another since 2003. Obviously the majority have not renewed at one point or another as live member numbers, while probably being at an all time high thanks to BR, will not be in excess of 2500 I wouldn't have thought. Please note I have no inside info on numbers, just been an interested observer and member since the start. Going back to the point, if the RST, and/or RF for that matter, could get 8000 fans to be paying in a monthly amount at the same time, it would be a great achievement and give us a real chance of progress.
  22. Tannochsidebear
    Let some make small steps first. A bit like the Scottish Nationalists. They wanted devolution in 1997 but some were scared it would lead to Independance. They said no chance, just give us some power to run some things like health and education and we will be happy. Less than 15 years later the Independance referendum was announced that had not even a glimmer of support a short while before. I think the similarity is there to see, and for the RST and supporters like yourself, let us get the fans on board with fan involvement and share ownership first, let us ensure our stadium and training ground are safe from plunder, then perhaps it is an easier argument to make to those already halfway there, to make the jump to full ownership, or Club Independence if you like.
  23. Tannochsidebear
    It is time we got in professional fundraisers, marketing people, spin doctors, the whole f'n shooting match to get done what needs to get done. Press, radio, tv, internet all with a rallying cry that Rangers needs saving and the only way to do it is by buying shares. A disaster emergency committee type shock and awe campaign. I have seen it happen in political set-ups where professionally managed fundraisers use social media, written media, telephone, letters, and the funds pour in for things that are not all that important to most of us, but strike a chord with those with an interest in such affairs. Rangers FC is a passionate subject, with followers, supporters and fans all over the world and we can only raise paltry sums in the circumstances we are in. Pah!!
  24. Tannochsidebear
    Just a thought Rab, but live within our means without external overdrafts or sugar Daddy's? As a business model it is usually a good sign. Of course it means we may never again see world class players in our midst, but the way tv has taken over football and the financial reality of the CL, it was pretty much always going this way for Scottish clubs anyway. What we can aspire to is to be punching above our weight from time to time, taking a few heavyweight teams down as can happen in cup football, and properly invest the spoils from such adventures in a positive fashion. We should be able, with our full stadium every week and marketable OF games, to be competitive in the Europa League where not all the big countries teams take it too seriously, without the need for borrowing. Sadly, all of that is as far away as is it possible to see at the moment.
  25. Tannochsidebear
    The £13M is a staggering figure, however we all know that pledges and actualities are night and day. I would love to believe that with the right mentality, professionalism, savvy and passion we could get both BuyRangers and RangersFirst up to levels where we are not talking about the possibility of a sale/leaseback scenario happening at our club. If we, the collective of individual fans, already own around 12-13% before this latest attempt by both BR & RF to hoover up more in the new issue, it surely is not that tall an order to make the first attempt to get to 25% to block any sale of our assets. If we could get to anything like that, and then get ourselves organised properly, we could see if we could get ourselves aligned with some of the more sympathetic Independant shareholders (i.e. not-fans), to see if we could get to 50.1% for the AGM and oust this board. Nothing is impossible if we had some proper balls about us. I do not denigrate the fine efforts being made by both RF & BR, all volunteers in their own time and for no pay, but I long for a much more professional, hard-hitting campaign that would not have a few hundred fans signing up for tenners here and there but have tens of thousands of fans donating hundreds and thousands of pounds to get our club back before it is too late, if indeed it is not too late already.
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