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  1. Today's vote is really just about due process. We will not get our inquiry as a result of this vote, and in fact I'll be surprised if we even get 20% of clubs voting for it. The clubs know who runs Scottish football and are living in fear of consequences. Having said this, we must go through the process before we can take it through the inevitable legal process. That will take time unfortunately but we must do it. There are a few interesting things that may come out of the vote however ... 1. At what point does it become obvious that Doncaster has to go? If 20% of clubs vote for this, is that enough to warrant his resignation? 30%? 2. The noise will not go away and will only intensify regardless of the outcome, so what will the next steps be? Will individual clubs take their own legal routes or will they band together? 3. Rangers must take a stand after this. I mentioned earlier about clubs fearing the consequences of voting against Celtic, err I mean the SPFL. There must also be consequences for them mistreating us constantly and that has to be in the form of ticket sales. We must NOT take tickets at these clubs and the club could help this effort. 4. Will the SPFL immediately then seek to hand the title to Celtic? I fully expect this to be their next move. In fact I expect this to happen within days of the vote. They will do it after "receiving the support from its members" and certainly before the legal process makes it difficult. As soon as they've been handed the title I'm sure Peter will be looking for his next puppet as Neil Doncaster will have served his purpose.
    4 points
  2. There is one. They should just merge the titles. I wonder how many would notice.
    3 points
  3. They should just rename The Daily Record 'The Celtc View'.
    3 points
  4. As someone who paid my blood monies the same day they asked, is it too much to hope for a similar scheme for us pauper non vip season ticket holders?
    2 points
  5. Clubs shitting themselves and scared of you know who(Liewell) IMO.
    2 points
  6. Brilliant statement from ICT and I hope and trust that they take this further. Some may call the article "robust" but others can see it as it was intended, a last ditch attempt to bully clubs into submission. Well done ICT for showing courage to stand up to the bullies, hope other clubs take note and follow.
    2 points
  7. How does todays vote work? Is it a case of each club submitting their vote to the SPFL again? If so that needs an independent third party to view the votes. Its crazy to send in the vote to one of the parties that is involved in the subject matter. There has to be transparency in this one.
    2 points
  8. If only. Some are intent on promoting it but who is intent on reading it?
    1 point
  9. A very well crafted statement. Not a word out of place. Suitably gracious but do I detect a note of menace? The difference between this and the stuff Traynor used to churn out is as day from night.
    1 point
  10. I like that statement. What I hope is that this goes beyond a "no confidence" vote and that these SPFL directors are challenged in court. We've had clubs claiming that they have been bullied, the CEO informed, and yet no inquiry. This is not optional. It is a fundamental requirement of every business in the world to protect whistleblowers and to investigate their concerns. It is a criminal offence not to do so. Why do they think they are above the law? I'd be happy if my Club 1872 funds went towards legal proceedings. This is just mind blowing that this is happening, never mind seeing that commentators think it's alright. There's a huge story here. Don't they want it?
    1 point
  11. I thought we'd banned the Record on on this forum.
    1 point
  12. I wonder who were the two that abstained in fact it would be nice to see a copy of the official result as we say in racing
    1 point
  13. Two clubs abstained? How can a shareholder abstain on a vote re: compromised corporate governance? Did they not understand the issue? Was the opportunity to establish a measure of probity in the running of the game an insufficient incentive? Or were they not made a sufficient offer, sufficiently clearly, and with sufficient guarantees to vote 'No'? As for those who voted against the resolution, they are clearly less than honest minded; they will be shamed as such in perpetuity. They deserve not one jot of trust or respect; ever.
    1 point
  14. If this is true even more serious questions must be raised as the cabal must be shit scared of him and his shamed club.
    1 point
  15. If you take out the votes of the SPFL board members, that figure rises to over 41% dissension.
    1 point
  16. 13 for 2 abstained 27 against What a next step? Court or a vote of no confidence?
    1 point
  17. BBC reporting 14 clubs voting for independent investigation with some clubs abstaining.
    1 point
  18. Rugby is a crap sport and English is a complete fud.
    1 point
  19. I think, and I may be wrong, but serious journalists like Tom English can see that there is a massive story here (including a back story). For them to get access to all the information, they have had to keep clubs with the evidence onside. Nothing wrong with this, there is a story here and hopefully someone will make themselves famous by uncovering and reporting it. Other like Jackson are no more journalists than you or me, they write for gutter rags and cannot and should not be taken seriously. Hopefully they'll be exposed by ICT
    1 point
  20. In that case then Celtic should vote for the II. They could even, in a magnanimous gesture to show their passion and concern for Scottish football, offer to share the cost of the II with Rangers. (It's great what an active imagination during lockdown can create.)?
    1 point
  21. Depth! Sportsound on Saturday had the following line up : Big Dick, Brian McLauchlin, Pat Boner, Chris McLaughlin, Michael Stewart, Tom English, Billy Dodds, and Wullie Miller. Chris McLaughlin is first up, and provides the week's timeline : Tuesday : Neil Doncaster meets with Scottish Government Minister, Joe Fitzpatrick. I suspect top of the agenda was a Scottish Government bail out for football. Neil's remuneration is £388,000 per annum. Thursday : Rangers Dossier Day. Chris precis it down to revelations that the SPFL failed to alert clubs to a £10 million liability, if season is not completed. Secondly, the dossier highlighted the SPFL had informed UEFA of Scottish football's intention to draw a line under the season, six days before a vote had been taken. Friday : League reconstruction stymied by a cabal of six Premiership clubs, namely : Aberdeen, Hibs, Dundee United, St Mirren, Ross County, and St Johnstone. Saturday : Rangers Vice-Chair, John Bennet's warning of the SPFL's attempts to isolate Rangers. Tom English makes the first contribution, a clear dig at DrStu' and Michael Stewart, "this is NOT Rangers versus the SPFL, if you think that, you are NOT listening". He mentions a few of the clubs that have supported Rangers claims ie Falkirk, Partick Thistle, Hearts, Stenhousemuir, Kelty Hearts, and Brora Rangers. He quotes Thistle's Jacqui Low, her attack on Shifty McGifty reference the SPFL's decision to call the season, "his behaviour was grubby, thoughtless, and selfish". There is a growing depth to Rangers claims. Big Dick laments those who have appeared on the show in the last several weeks, no longer willing to come on. He lists again the cabal of six saying no to reconstruction, then adds that reconstruction was a wild goose chase since day one. Chris McLaughlin supports this by saying, "it was never going to happen". Michael Stewart is not the beneficiary of a prior briefing this week and he asks, "I want to know why reconstruction won't happen"? Last week, Michael was Hollicom's attack hound on Rangers, this week he is groping around and blurts, "Ann Budge has behaved impeccably, unlike others, she has not thrown the baby out with the bath water, or the toys out the pram". Rapid fire comment ensues, Wullie Miller thinks Scottish football is in a state of anarchy. Pat Boner believes the situation is toxic, and Billy Dodds declares the vote, "the worst democratic vote in the history of sport". Big Dick invites former Hearts Chair, Leslie Deans on to the show and the Jambo begins, "I am spitting blood". He accuses the SPFL of alienating it's third biggest member and advises Hearts to begin legal action against both the SPFL and the cabal of six. He cites the willful misrepresentation before the vote of the £10 million liability, and Dundee's farcical vote. These facts should be scrutinised by the court and advocates crowd funding. He will start it off with a four figure donation. Deans says the SPFL have acted almost in isolation. Only the French association has called their leagues, and currently the French Government are supporting relegated clubs in their determination to take on the French football Federation.He invites all to read the comments made by both Rangers and Thistle's QCs ie good prospects of a favourable court decision. Michael is not controlling the narrative and reminds Deans(a Lawyer with over 40 years experience), "Company law supercedes common law". Deans hands him his arse and continues asking, "why have the SPFL failed to offer solidarity payments"? He ends with, "they offer no contrition, they are contemptuous of Hearts, Thistle, and Stranraer, and that includes whoever is pulling their strings". Michael is out of his depth, he wants to now retrace the timeline suggesting, "the vote would have been better split into four or five separate votes". Wait a minute, that was Rangers suggestion and Michael was against it. Going off script, once again allows Michael to reinvent the wheel. Michael remains but becomes sullenly silent. Group discussion throws up some speculation reference John Nelms. Dundee's Chair had stated his change of vote came after a realisation he was going to occupy a strong position reference the opportunity of reconstruction. Further speculation on Brora Rangers Chair's comments, "there had been weeks of pressure, you could feel the hand of interference". More comedy came from Hamilton's Alan Maitland. He added to conjecture as to Doncaster's comments from the week before reference SPFL prize money payments being made to those clubs in league positions 7-12. Anyways, the last question provided the most telling answer. Is Neil Doncaster the right man for the job? Deafening silence ensued, a depth of dead air. then Maitland replies, "I don't know, I am not sure what he does"? On Sunday, Doncaster reappeared on Sportsound. Once again, he stipulated only one person could question him. This time it was David Currie's turn to lob the dollies. Further, he would not answer unwanted questions as they were unhelpful to the situation. It was reported that the Foundation of Hearts are backing Leslie Deans call for crowd funding, adding a bit more depth. Next week, Michael Stewart, the Bhoy in maroon will be the talk o' the toon, as he appears once again out of his depth. Throw him a line, he's sinking fast.
    1 point
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