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maineflyer

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  1. Haven't seen anything of the game yet so I only suspect we played our usual stuttering crap..... I don't actually know it yet so I'll pretend for a while we were world beaters. I have just seen the league table though and that looks excellent!
  2. It's been disappointing to see this thread abandoned, having got to the stage in the debate where I thought some insight might be about emerge regarding tangible objectives of the "new" RST board. I hope no one will mind too much if I pull this back on to the front page, in the hope that the OP has now had time to gather his thoughts in this respect and might be prepared to share them.
  3. I've no doubt he'll return and contribute more than Pedro Mendes so Rangers fans might want to show their impatience in another direction.
  4. Yes, a rarebit of information, as it were.
  5. Presumably, that'll be Brendan "kevinthomson8" O'Bogslobber.
  6. No, I just wrote what I meant and meant what I wrote. Haven't a clue what 'joke' you're referring to.
  7. Maybe Sir Murray is planning a comeback coup?
  8. Must be something about Stepps. On the way home from the Torino game in the previous round, our bus got stuck in traffic for a while at Stepps - there's an almighty bang and yours truly is left sharing a seat with a brick from some passing sellick scum. The only time I can remember both ourselves and the filth playing at home in Europe on the same night. Plenty of fresh air on the way home!
  9. I think if someone is going to post that sort of news, they should be prepared to disclose their surces in public. Otherwise, leave it alone. BTW I don't believe it either - this news is so old it's got moss growing on it.
  10. Fair enough. You've got to call your puddings as you see them, I've no problem with that.
  11. Hey, don't knock the therapeutic value of wallowing! It's all that keeps me going some days. I'd just like to agree with your second point though. The club's owners and directors never did show much time for the support from what I've seen in my time. What they generally did though was leave us alone, neglect rather than manipulation. Murray changed all that - he had no background in the club's ways and spent 20 years trying to systematically sanitise and change it. In the process, he used tactics that alienated many and caused deep divisions among the support but did nothing to confront arseholes like Spiers, who have done much damage. Anyone who was at the 1972 ECWC semifinal against Bayern will understand the magnitude of what's been lost at Ibrox.
  12. Good to see him on the comeback trail. It won't be easy for him after such a long time out and he might need to be cut some slack from the support.
  13. Maybe you needed to actually be there to understand? We ARE a shadow of what we were .... as a club, as a team, and a support, as an institution. At least that's how it looks to me. I hope that it will change again but, looking back, it seems to be more or less a one-way street.
  14. I also started in the late fifties and early sixties. The niar years were awful and the '69 cup final remains my low point as a bear. But is isn't all about the field of play, you expect highs and lows. In the early 1960's Rangers were genuinely and widely acknowledged as Scotland's best club by supporters of many clubs. They might not have liked us but they generally like what the club represented. No one was running down our heritage and precious few that I can recall were offended by what Rangers stood for or what Rangers fans sang. We had the best scouting system in the business and generally didn't know what debt problems were. We played in three European finals in 11 years and generally held our heads high. Fast forward to fans being asked to grass on fellow fans, hounded by stewards looking for an excuse to have you ejected, pilloried in the media and government, a virtual pariah in our own back yard, a yawning gulf between club and support, a chairman lying through his teeth to an increasingly gullible support, etc, etc. It's hard not to compare the matchday experience now with 20 or 30 years ago and watch subdued fans sitting in silence for 75 minutes before heading for the exits. Was it better back then? Damned right it was. At least that's my personal opinion - it's the only thing I have to offer.
  15. I see where you're coming from but, like many people, I only really have two choices - do nothing or do what I can. I've never actually knowingly listened to Radio Clyde, I live a long way from its broadcast area, but I've listened to enough bears to understand the problem and that it's just another exaample of a wider media mission, sponsored by the same group of people. I tend to write a lot of direct emails and letters, largely because I can and because there doesn't seem to be any other effective way to get my feelings across, such as an active RST. I think Gisabeer is absolutely right to add to the only collective voice we have. Sure, they may not listen, they may even relish the reaction, but we've seen enough evidence these last ten years or so that doing nothing certainly isn't going to help. The more who actually use their voice, like Gisabeer, the better.
  16. Well done for a fine letter and for showing us the way ..... a letter sent to the enemy in protest is worth ten shared between friends. I'm going to follow your example and send a few words of my own right now.
  17. Since the club will not, repeat never, do anything about Spiers, it sounds like he will be denied his martyrdom after all. That'll teach him, eh.
  18. I've nothing but admiration for those who try..... sitting down to write a letter to the BBC or a newspaper editor or the chairman of RFC - or holding up a protest banner. However, that said, it also does no harm to realise that we can waste a hell of a lot of time and effort pursuing the unobtainable.... and the illusion of progress that can create simply prevents more radical and possibly more effective action ever being taken. It's just a view.
  19. Well done to the club for this although I also agree with the point made above by Gribz.
  20. The RSA would struggle to clarify whether we're the People's Front for Judea or the Judean Peoples Front ...... but no doubt they could stimulate endless debate on the subject and take it to the wider support for opinion. In short, the RSA is like the RST, a talking shop that will sweep as easily from one stance to another as shit sliding off the edge of a shovel. It's always been that way and ever will be. Given an thoroughly intransigent board of directors, only confrontation will (a) establish a solid, credible position and (b) provoke any reaction from the club's overlords. Too many fans are too ready to feign outrage at the idea of confrontation for that to be possible, so not only will the club remain where it is in respect of people like Spiers but the support will also remain as smugly ineffectual as ever. Of course, I could just be unreasonably pessimistic and blind to the fact that our representative organisations are actually full of activists rather than mouthpieces.
  21. I'm all for debate and this is a hugely important subject. However, it would be wrong to think that "we" are in a position to force anything. We can coerce and encourage but we're not in a position to force anyone to do anything. That's the foundation for any debate. Then there are two other factors to take into account. Firstly, the track record suggests that no supporters' organisations will ever assert their views on the club. Secondly, experience equally shows that the clubs will not be swayed into action by any supporters' organisation..... some would suggest otherwise but I've never bought into any of these claims. Personally, I'd not only ban Spiers from Ibrox, I'd have his balls lopped off and fed to the pigs. But who is going to do it? One thing is probably as likely to happen as the other. Like I said, I'm all for debate, just so long as no one encourages unreasonable expectations. The club leadership (there's a misnomer) has demonstrated only weakness and disinterest ..... the RSA has shown only weakness. Has anything happened to make anyone think it will be different in future?
  22. The RSA won't force any changes, why would anyone seriously think they could? The change we all seek can only come from within the club itself and there isn't the slightest hint of that happening. Chatter is all very well but it would be wrong of anyone to actually believe the RSA would ever put pressure on the club and madness to think the club would ever yield to such pressure. Only more of the same to look forward to ........ and we know it.
  23. The best years of Rangers are most definitely in the past. I saw some of them and I'll always treasure the memories. It's not easy to accept and the denial going on is unhelpful but understandable, especially amongst the younger supporters. Sadly however, it is certainly true. Personally, I cannot see the slope being anything but downwards from here on ......... possibly for football as a whole but certainly for Rangers. If you only arrived in the 1990's then sorry but you missed it, you're now supporting a shadow. Are you being overly negative or cynical? Not from where I'm sitting. Simply telling it like it is.
  24. I'm politically unionist and decidedly right wing, no doubt about it. But in sporting matters I'd rather gnaw my left thumb off than pull on an England shirt. Never could understand that shit amongst Rangers supporters who, when challenged, inevitably justify it on he basis that it is somehow "British". Fukk that for the proverbial game of sodjers. Three lions ain't in any shape or form British. But it's becoming abundantly clear that my "Scotland" has less and less time for Rangers and our Scottish heritage may have an increasingly shaky foundation. The Oirish and socialist plagues that have infected our community for over 150 years have bred stupidity and weakness in almost every walk of life, including sporting bodies. In these circumstances I've changed my opinions dramatically and would now welcome complete disengagement from the Scottish footballing scene. The phrase "fukk 'em" comes to mind and seems ever more appropriate.
  25. Where did this mince come from in the first place and why is shite like this being posted as if it was real information? Beveren ffs!
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