Pacific Quay Musings?

[Bill 13,717]

1 hour ago, JohnMc said:

The issue just now is about losing face. Both the BBC and Rangers have taken up positions that make compromise difficult without one looking like it's 'backed down'. If Rangers were to announce they'd reinstated media credentials to Chris McLaughlin they'd take a lot of criticism from a decent percentage of the support. If the BBC announced they'd decided to send someone else they'd be criticised too by some staff, external voices, other club's supporters and so on. Yet, fixing this is really quite straightforward in my opinion. The BBC agree to cover Rangers in the same way they cover every other side and the problem is solved. The issue is then how to 'sell' that to our support and those who who support the BBC's stance. That's where 'the statement' comes in. Both parties should be able to word something that allows both to save face, appeases those who don't want compromise or agreement and then all the rest of us who simply want normal coverage of our football club, coverage we've paid for and continue to pay for, can get on with things. 

It's not in anyone's interests this carries on indefinitely, particularly not the Rangers support who are the only people being properly inconvenienced here. 

That post embodies everything that has been weak and ill-directed about the new-age Rangers fans that have emerged in numbers over the last 25 years. Rangers acts reasonably in the face of persistent biased reporting and see our attackers extend their impartial campaign by effectively blacklisting the club. This is then compounded by increasingly overt criticism and ridicule. So along comes this brand of supporter, on their knees and calling for appeasement and pursuing deals that can be "sold" to the fans. As if this was a situation of our own making and believing that any resolution would immediately result in a 180 degree change in BBC attitudes to Rangers. It's beyond fantasy.

 

It would be easy to despair at the naivety and cowed compliance of some of our colleagues in the Rangers support. Seriously, you have to wonder what kind of infantile world they inhabit.

[trublusince1982 243]

17 hours ago, JohnMc said:

Many words have more than one meaning TBS, enjoy; possess and benefit from. "the security forces enjoy legal immunity from prosecution"

synonyms:benefit from, have the benefit of, reap the benefits of, have the advantage, have the use of, have available, avail oneself of...

 

When faced with the choice of no coverage or the BBC's coverage I'd rather the latter. Many supporters can't get Clyde where they live, the BBC then becomes their only option for commentary. 

Would that not mean you should push for another means of commentary not acceptance of the BBC ?

[cooponthewing 1,139]

2 hours ago, JohnMc said:

The issue just now is about losing face. Both the BBC and Rangers have taken up positions that make compromise difficult without one looking like it's 'backed down'. If Rangers were to announce they'd reinstated media credentials to Chris McLaughlin they'd take a lot of criticism from a decent percentage of the support. If the BBC announced they'd decided to send someone else they'd be criticised too by some staff, external voices, other club's supporters and so on. Yet, fixing this is really quite straightforward in my opinion. The BBC agree to cover Rangers in the same way they cover every other side and the problem is solved. The issue is then how to 'sell' that to our support and those who who support the BBC's stance. That's where 'the statement' comes in. Both parties should be able to word something that allows both to save face, appeases those who don't want compromise or agreement and then all the rest of us who simply want normal coverage of our football club, coverage we've paid for and continue to pay for, can get on with things. 

It's not in anyone's interests this carries on indefinitely, particularly not the Rangers support who are the only people being properly inconvenienced here. 

Until it suits their purpose to continue their prejudiced, biased and misleading reporting. They are like a dog after it’s attacked someone, never be trustworthy again. Only this dog is bitter, bigoted, twisted and hates you to the core.

[Soulsonic5791 408]

I can't believe my eyes.

 

Is there a suggestion that only some of the Rangers support would be annoyed if McLaughlin's privileges were re-instated?

 

Try 99.999%. There must be a parallel universe somewhere...

[der Berliner 3,249]

This ongoing lack of impartial and sufficient reporting and commentating on our games is something the payers of license fees need to adress. Not with the BBC or even less so on fan boards. You (sic!) need to adress the watchdogs of the BBC, which now is Ofcom, not the in-house BBC Trust or any other complaint department. They fail to do their job ... for ages and on their own accord. Martyrising Scrote and pointing out that we started something won't work with Ofcom, who won't care a jot about petty wars of journos with Rangers.

 

But that is something the license payer has to do, i.e. you, and you and you on here. Anything else won't change a thing.

[pete 2,499]

Not BBC but BT Yesterday. Stephan Craigan!

Celtic's poor form will give hope to Neil Lennon, Craig Levein, and Derek McInnes to win the league.

[der Berliner 3,249]

BT's coverage last  week was disgraceful ... and no matter who sits besides them of former Rangers inclination joined in. McCoist was just as poor as Maclean, Villareal this, Villareal that, ... and obviously no mention that their "second string" still outdistanced our squad monetary-wise by 30m+ pounds ... as bet365 pointed out.

 

These idiots shall simply decline commentating on our games and be done with it.

 

Alas ... it was all the more satsifying to hear them at the end babbling in disbelief of the point we sneaked. Still, this is something which Rangers themselves should adress. If people are incapable of giving a balanced report and commentary on the game of a Scottish underdog side than they should change personell or switch the babble off and hand us the stadium sound.

Edited September 26, 2018 by der Berliner

[buster. 4,808]

38 minutes ago, pete said:

Not BBC but BT Yesterday. Stephan Craigan!

Celtic's poor form will give hope to Neil Lennon, Craig Levein, and Derek McInnes to win the league.

That is basically a wind-up and today, they tend to help individuals bottom line.

See Sutton for a louder example.

[compo 6,147]

We're at war with the media , and the first thing that goes in a war is the truth .

[DMAA 3,603]

There's a lot of unnecessary ad-hominem on this thread.

 

A lot of people on here don't realise that not every Rangers fan is a die hard who could recite all of the BBCs transgressions over the past decade.

 

We need to have radio coverage of our games. And when we triumph in Europe we need to have some discussion of our games afterwards just like our rivals get. The BBC are a disgrace for how little they are covering us just now, going way beyond merely not coming to Ibrox.

 

But something needs to be done get coverage resumed.