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There are a lot of things wrong on the field for RFC but it's quite simple really. #1 The players just aren't good enough and the money wasted on a variety of players is criminal. #2 The manager simply cannot deliver the coaching required to offer acceptable performances/results. Will sacking the manager change #1? Probably not and the board have a lot to answer for the money wasted. There's also no transfer kitty for any new manager so is that a workable solution? This is where we need clear, transparent leadership explaining the route forward. Very few managers of the quality required will fancy this job. Yes, its Rangers, yes the wage will be attractive and there will be interest but not from anyone with the ability to see the existing players and our fiscal limitations. Over to you Patrick Stewart.

So, Dowell. Controlling the midfield, tracking back to put in the tackles, rampaging forwards and crashing piledrivers at the ‘Well goal. That Dowell? Or the usual one? (Bookmark this, everybody, so you can all torment me when he comes off the field a hat-trick hero having also saved a penalty in the last minute when replacing injured sub Kelly in goal)

Clement is here for the long term, we must know that, accepting it is a different matter. This team is still a project, unless Stewart has other ideas?! In terms of money generation from football performance, you could argue Clement is ahead of schedule, mainly down to the success, thus far, in the Europa league. The risk of changing manager is obvious. Not only could we continue to lag well behind the beasts domestically, but we could also find ourselves struggling to do well in Europe. I don't think that is a risk worth taking given our financial situation. The vision for the Rangers hierarchy is to become financially sustainable - primarily through player trading - and I would assume they feel that we don't necessarily need to win the league to achieve that, but that it will come when we are able to properly generate income and thus properly invest behind the squad. Short term, unfortunately, we have to suffer the journey. The days of changing manager to chase short term success are over. Lose on Thursday, and ordinarily we would have Clement chased out the door. Supporters may try to protest, but any attempts will be futile. Season ticket money is a guarantee with the waiting list what it is. Merchandise will continue to be sold, and night will follow day. However, long suffering fans will continue to hope (for the first couple of months of each season) and next season is another opportunity. For now, we have all to play for in Europe, and I'm trying to keep the dying embers of my passion glowing as long as possible.

Butland surely deserves to be dropped now. We may be thin on options elsewhere on the park, but Kelly is a good keeper. Some of our players were dreadful today and if we do not get a few quid for Koppen to spend it is going to be an awful run in.

I'm still advocating removal of Clement no matter how this game ends up 😀

If its Potter you want, here's the Potter the board will deliver 😀

Should be up to the fitness coach (“trainer” in olden times) to recommend and up to the manager to decide. The names of the greetin’ bairns should be on the list for the end of season bin. They should really be binned now but we’re short-staffed.

I am scunnered with this. The boy never got a chance. What are we doing?

It should have been consigned to the bin years ago. Our club is so far removed from reality, it's embarrassing.

It’s stupid. You have 5 subs. Start your best team. Have the game won by 60 mins and then start subbing guys to rest them.

Quality or not, rotating our team with evidently inferior players does not help the managers cause. His last two starting line ups have been awful. What was going to be achieved by playing Dowell today?

Diamonde looks so much better when we play with a faster tempo. That probably goes for many of our players tbh.

Don't forget, we've now got a Patrick in charge.

We should have it lined up to go as soon as the window opens. Knowing us we will mull about until the end of the window and then bring in some wimp that’s 5”6

This is the most inept performance I've ever seen from a Rangers team. I've no idea where we go from here.

We are a team playing without 2 decent CB’s and it shows

Some guidance from the Scottish FA on that Motherwell goal... The ball hits the arm of Apostolos Stamatelopoulos, but it's deemed to be against the body and in a natural position. Amateur defending and goalkeeping.

How? He is playing 2 strikers - what many have asked for.

Timewise, that was the opportunity to build a sustainable base. However, the reality was that our club was being drained from the inside by those who couldn't give a dam beyond what they could stick in their pockets.

OOPs sorry just realised you are joking! Caught hook line and sinker mate

I do agree and do not get me wrong I am not a Propper fan but it was a handball. Clear as day. Propper makes Karl Svensson look like Baresi

Yes but it was a Propper(proper) fuck up.

A tin bucket a damp sponge a good rub down with sloanes liniment or wintergreen so had you up and running young fans think I’m kidding when I tell them that Liverpool won the league with a pool of thirteen players back in the days with defenders like Norman Hunter Ron Harris and plenty more who’d half you in two there’s not a day’s work in the modern man they are all pussys

I'm meant to be 12hrs dayshift tomorrow and just phoned my manager and asked to start a little later, as I'm tired due to all the extra hours I've been working recently. He just told me to go f%<÷ myself. Pity his name wasn't Phil Clement.

Ignore all mine, predictable, sarcastic, unrealistic and full on impatience (for a change).😀😀😀

I don't think a Rangers victory on Thursday will be sufficient to wipe the smug grin off his face. Unless it's a record 9-1 victory. Not even Hogmanay and they've got the Hamlets out and the champagne on ice, a Rangers victory on Thursday isn't going to change that.

If we had 2 centre backs that could win a header we wouldn't have lost those 2 soft goals today. I'm sure Clement had some big lumps that could head things when he was at Brugge. His lack of ability to identify this given how long he has managed here so far is damning.

Despite all the crap we’ve had to endure I’d just love to see us turn Celtic over come Thursday just to wipe the smirky smile of ,of Rodger’s face .

Not to sound like Mr Hindsight but I always thought the reactions to his early form last years was OTT. He was decent but not amazing IMO. Now he is a liability.

FFS. Consign that song to the past. Its embarrassing. Up there with the 5 stars on the badge and "the world's most successful team" shite.

Young McCausland must have blotted his copybook if he can’t get a game ahead of some of the others.

If he does, no-one, not even some on here, could blame him for the inevitable drubbing. There will be plenty of others blameworthy. If you want a name - Propper, the worst cb we have fielded since Kiernan. In fact, he is almost Kribariesque.

You think that there is a dearth of candidates?

Tremendous from Igamane

Got away with one there - that was soft.

I doubt if even Paul Daniel’s could have done any magic with these duds

To think that a couple of weeks ago we were playing with some flair and outplaying Spurs. How can it all go so wrong so quickly?

Need a good Presbyterian in to fix this

Paul. Pedro. Phillipe. Ps are a thing, eh?

Predictable. Powderpuff. Pish.

Or on the pitch.

Whatever rode Sterling to head the ball back into the danger area, Tav's attempt at defending was even worse ...

He should be dropped now after letting that one past him. Shocking goalkeeping.

I would imagine it will be a sell first buy second type of transfer window 😒

No Hagi as he is ill, Cerny says he is tired. Igamane and Jefte tired too. Poor wee souls.

Isn't it called squad rotation? And if we keep playing our best team (whatever that is) and they keep losing?

We've rotated more managers in the last decade than during the previous 100 years. One of the bigger mistakes were that we handed so many people the job and gave them time to build their own version, that we lost the leagues (refereeing interference aside) during their trainee period time and again. You might blame all the managers in person, but they usually dragged a whole bunch of people to our club, all with football brains (you would have hoped), yet none came up with a pragmatic approach to the realities in Scotland. How can these 4 or more people in every managing staff time and again fail in spotting the obvious? If I were the CEO (with not that big a football brain), I'd get some football experts around me, have their opinion, and then ask the manager what he thinks needs to change. If this approach is not in line to the realities and other opinions, I'd think about someone doing it better. Clement got a contract till 2028, so was obviously earmarked for a transition process. A horrific injury record sure didn't help, but no matter who was available, we toil along with no change in the approach, half a handful of games aside. So, where's the transition? You come to a point where you ask yourself that whomever we may sign in January is essentially irrelevant, as long as we don't adapt the system in a way we should.

Could we/ should we go into the Ne'er Day game without a manager?

Pickering.