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Producers produce ....... Early last week, I was reading the Herald online. The standard of Journalism on the old blat has been in steady decline for a couple of decades. Often, there is more informed opinion to be found in the Readers Comments section underneath most articles. On a piece about the financial mayhem awaiting most Scottish clubs during these estranged times, the writer suggested clubs could do worse than pay attention to Rangers conduct through, 'the Journey'. Immediately, I thought click bait for the haters; of which the Herald has many. There was mild surprise on my part after clicking on the readers comments. The first comment was a paragraph of absolute hate that began, "I was a Producer at BBC Scotland for many years ...............". Recalling his time at Hamilton Gardens/PQ, the contributor vented his memories of 2012 and the mess left behind by Rangers and their use of EBTs. I thought he would mention Rangers not receiving their monies for finishing runners-up after the ten point deduction and demand that those monies should be paid out this season, a lesson learned? No, Peter Broughan was too busy articulating his hate to do comparisons. Peter Broughan was top of the tree in Beeb Scotland, he produced 'Only a Game', 'Your Cheating Heart', 'Tutti Frutti' ......................................, etc. He also teamed up with fellow Yahoo, Michael Caton-Jones to produce the Hollywood financed film, 'Rob Roy' starring Liam Neeson. I was glad no Rangers supporter, nor supporter of another club took Peter to task for his Sevco, EBT, and new club rant. He is the epitome of an approaching his seventieth year Yahoo, in the wilderness facing uncertainty, and holding on to his one true thing for grim life - his overwhelming hatred of Rangers. He doesn't want to move over to allow younger Yahoos an opportunity to vent hatred, his right to spit venom must always be practised. Yesterday at PQ, our national broadcaster placed the megaphone in the hands of Pat Boner, Kris Commons, John Hartson, Tom English, Michael Stewart, .............. etc. Today, it's been John Hartson and Gordon Strachan. The undercurrent is Sellik must be awarded the title. Beeb Scotland do not speak to Rangers supporters, thus it becomes a bit awkward for them when Rangers supporters contributions to a debate are required for the purposes of balance. No problem, PQ has numerous Presenters who have numerous friends who support Rangers. These notional Rangers supporters are leaned upon, often. This weekend is about encouragement to Rangers supporters, we had, "there are even Rangers supporters who are willing to cede the title to Celtic to move the game on". John Hartson was magnanimous, "if Rangers admit Celtic as Champions, they would receive a lot of credit". The bitterness and vitriol all lies with Rangers and their supporters, opines Kris. It's convenient to have these notional Bears, it's like DrStu' back in the day claiming Rangers would complete their journey playing in front of an average of 8,000 fans. His rational was most Gers supporters were/are glory hunters and would not put up with the reality of a mediocre Rangers. Further, he knew three Rangers supporters who were long term season ticket holders and they were not returning because they believed Rangers to be a different, new club. Other highlights were Michael Stewart and Fraser Wishart(now head of the Players Union) having a ding dong. Fraser objected to Michael's line of questioning. It must be getting harder for Producers at the Beeb to find folk to come on, just because Stewart has not had an argument with them? Tom English battered Hearts and Ann Budge. No longer worthy of praise, no longer a model club, and Tom regrets this. Tom did not articulate his real resentment, and he is speaking for the majority of PQ colleagues here; the real resentment in no longer being able to use, 'Hearts are a model club' is that it was weaponised to continually wield the big stick at Rangers and listening Rangers supporters. Don't worry, another stick will be found soonest. There was consensus on this season being finished, even if it means season 2020/2021 does not occur because of the time required to clear up the coronavirus situation. The Dandies grouping are still concerned about the Scottish Cup being completed, £3million among four clubs is much needed future finance. Self interest is catching, although no one knows notional Rangers supporters promoting blue tinged self interest? If they did, of course they would be labeled self serving selfish bastards. Today's BBC Scotland football web page has one result from lat February - Inverness CT 2 Rangers U21 1 and has an invitation to view text commentary of the 2016 Scottish Cup final. There's no mention of the aftermath. Further, there's a trumpeting of Hartson's demand for Rangers to be afforded, "huge respect" if they cede the title. I wonder, if ra Sellik were awarded the Championship, would Rangers receive their runners-up prize money? Would the 2012 monies be paid also? I am sure the PQ Producers can find enough notional Rangers supporters to comment upon such a notion? It will occur when one contributor finds the courage to say Rangers could win their game in hand and defeat ra Sellik home and away, leaving them 4 points behind with five to play. It's just a notion.

So you want to exclude members of the OO from your all inclusive policy? Bit of a contradiction there. It could be argued that the songs are from a loyalist culture. What's next? Should all loyalist/unionist/Protestants be banned from being employed by our club? As for the songs. We've heard them sung at away Euro games when Graham wasn't employed so it's really good nothing to do with him. I thought we'd got past worrying about people's religious beliefs as to whether they should be employed by us but obviously not.

Everyone, Anyone, er, except those of you in the Orange Order or the Democratic Unionist Party. Your whole argument is an own goal!

Not this year’s competition but vintage quarter final ties. Terrific entertainment. West Brom v Forest, Leicester v Wycombe, Arsenal v Watford. Slower than modern football and less athleticism but nowhere near as tedious. Wycombe didn’t string eight along the back but stiill won 2-1. Willie Johnston cutting through the Forest defence with ease. Clattered twice by Martin O’Neil so Willie gets up and cements Archie Gemmill. Couldn’t follow the logic there. Other legend* celtic managers featured across the ties. What a winger John Barnes was. Should have left it at that. * Legends for Rangers fans. Brady was another.

No tourists, no half and half scarves and no twits filming someone taking a bloody throw-in on their mobile phone.

Boom, howitzer!

Not really, it´s more about playing clever. Generally, that´s not something we´ve been doing.

I have to say I'm a bit disappointed in some of the posts on this thread. It's safe to say the appointment is splitting the fans to a degree, certainly not 50/50, but enough for it to be well worth noting, especially when the concern is coming from fans I'd consider sensible. Now, if people want this thread to stay open, please post constructively and without insult.

L'chayim @alexscottislegend

Where are they ? Why didn’t they apply for the job or, if they did, why did the club go with Graham ? I suspect the club went with David Graham because they felt he was the best candidate. I doubt his OO affiliations came into it and that the club merely felt he was the best candidate for the job. His affiliations with the OO doesn’t prevent him from carrying out his job. The one he is employed to do. i think you’re reading far more into his OO background than needs be - and I, personally, think you are significantly overplaying what impact his OO affiliations will have on the remainder of the support. Indeed, his experience in the OO will give him a particular insight into how to combat the add-ones in some of our songs and how to reach out to that element of our support

Ah wuz doon at the joab centre and never seen it.

Fair play, old chap. Nobody can say that you get everything wrong.

Definitely playing the tune that lot

That sort of sums up the Scottish press. Rancid.

I agree with Hartson. The final decision should be made by Rangers FC. ?

On FF GranvllusClutterbuckus has posted this table of Rangers’ top ten goal scorers. The placings are by average rather than total. Don’t know if it’s league goals only. Name Nationality Position Rangers career Appearances Goals Goal/Game Jimmy Smith Scotland FW 1930–1946 259 249 96,14% Jim Forrest Scotland FW 1962–1967 163 145 88,96% Robert Cumming Hamilton Scotland FW 1897–1906 209 184 88,04% Willie Reid Scotland FW 1909–1920 230 195 84,78% Jimmy Fleming Scotland FW 1925–1934 268 223 83,21% Max Murray Scotland FW 1955–1963 154 121 78,57% Geordie Henderson Scotland FW 1919–1927 195 142 72,82% George McLean Scotland FW 1962–1967 117 82 70,09% Billy Simpson Northern Ireland FW 1950–1959 239 163 68,20% Ralph Brand Scotland FW 1954–1965 317 206 64,98% Some old guys there. Surprised that Ralphie Brand is tenth after Maxie Murray and George McLean much maligned, by me anyway, and old warhorse Billy Simpson. No McCoist.

Somehow, I don't see the new chap as Pontifex Maximus, do you?

If it is sectarian then you’re 100% correct. The issue you hit on is the public perception. If PR is supposed to be public relations then it seems an unnecessary handicap for the guy to be associated with an organisation that is certainly controversial.

The trouble with Rangers’ bridge building is that the folk on the opposite bank don’t want to accept the spans ostensibly because the colour of the girders upsets them but really because those whom Rangers have vanquished time and again now see a chance to contain Rangers at a reduced operating level - high enough to generate income but not high enough to win anything. I don’t care if Rangers’ PR guy is Attila the h - , er, Leader of a horde of barbaric tribesmen, so long as he is accomplished in the business. I don’t seem to have read anything about the chap’s previous PR experience and successes. Have I missed it?

Fair point. BTW, an apostrophe doesn't require spaces.

I have a small collection of about sixty bottles given as gifts so I wont have to go panic buying ?

Let me be clear to everyone above. I am not blaming the OO for everything. What I am saying is that in a time where we are trying to promote ourselves as an all inclusive club - hiring a head of PR who is a member of such an organisation - in my mind and many others is a PR own goal.

Can’t debate with that mate You’ve just blamed the OO for everything, Uefa fines, singing and Gerrard all in one Come on man, I’d have more respect if you just said ‘I don’t like David Graham because of his background’ Fair enough I get that But let’s cut the shit and stop blaming the OO for everything - you are making yourself look far worse and less tolerant than anything David Graham has ever done

Lets hope you are right.

What a pile of absolute uneducated shite you have just spouted

I think alcohol in moderation isn't unhealthy. I drink whisky fairly regularly and never seem to get the cold. Unfortunately, it took me until I was in my late-30s to be able to understand what 'in moderation' actually means. Can't beat a pint of McEwan's 80, followed by a Speyside malt.

Aye but do they also come with the requisite PR skill set ? who are these bluenoses waiting to step in and why didn’t they apply for the position in the first place ?

Think posters should stop the negativity as it plays into the hands of the mhedia,if we cannot support the appointment how the hell can we expect to get fair coverage, not that we get any at the moment right enough.

I would suspect he will be firm but the other sides have to play ball Far from a PR strategy of ‘No one likes us we don’t care’ it will more be like, These our our concerns, we can play ball but you’ll have to play ball also There are some organisations who are beyond repair (Record Sun etc) and some we have to try and repair something with (Fare, BBC etc) for the greater good I am very pro David Graham, he is after all one of us But the proof is always in the pudding

I wrote this in my blog this week & I’ll say it again His remit is the following - sort issues with BBC - sort issues with Fare - sort issues with local politicians - sort issues with our media He has the experience, he has the knowledge and has dealt with many things Am I biased? Absolutely but my opinion (mine) is I’m prepared to give him a go I’d rather a bluenose who was aware of the challenges we face than a big company who know nothing of our current dilemmas