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As much as we will not ever forget King’s contribution to our recovery, I wish he would stop talking about the bheasts and just concentrate on us.6 points
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the fans who did this have let us down but nothing the club said would have made a jot of difference to that.6 points
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To prevent a Covid lockdown? Having Sturgeon not keep quiet about the first outbreak in Scotland after the Nike Conference, which caused the initial spread, would be a start. To prevent Rangers fans from celebrating a league victory after being put down to the 4th level of Scottish football? Have greater controls over who can buy football clubs, and enforce the law that companies cannot be bought with their own money.6 points
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A piece of common sense and sanity from The Scotsman. An Edinburgh paper, too. Why Rangers shouldn't be blamed for controversial title-winning celebrations of some of their supporters Deflection tactics have always been a stock-in-trade of politicians. It appears they are now also a go-to strategy for Police Scotland’s senior management team. By Stephen Halliday Tuesday, 9th March 2021, 4:38 pm https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers/why-rangers-shouldnt-be-blamed-for-controversial-title-winning-celebrations-of-some-of-their-supporters-3159957 Amid the blizzard of criticism and histrionic outrage directed towards Rangers in the aftermath of their fans’ weekend title-winning celebrations, from Justice Secretary Humza Yousaf, Deputy First Minister John Swinney and Deputy Chief Constable Malcolm Graham, you would have been forgiven for thinking Douglas Park and Steven Gerrard themselves had been scaling statues and letting off fireworks in George Square. It was only during her own verbal broadside towards the Ibrox club at Holyrood on Tuesday afternoon that Nicola Sturgeon acknowledged the simple truth of the matter when she said ‘Those at fault are those who breached the rules’. But that didn’t prevent the First Minister from also doubling down on her government colleagues’ irrational insistence that Rangers’ senior management are also culpable for the scenes which breached her current coronavirus decrees. Rangers chairman Park has understandably taken issue with this narrative and has written in strident terms to Sturgeon, who also happens to be his club’s constituency MSP, to outline the wide-ranging dialogue and series of meetings held with Police Scotland and the Scottish government in the two weeks leading up to the weekend when the title was won. At both his pre-match media conference last Friday and his post-match media conference after the 3-0 win over St Mirren at Ibrox on Saturday, Rangers manager Gerrard addressed the issue of supporters’ gatherings in measured language which clearly recognised the ongoing Covid-19 restrictions. But if anyone believes Gerrard or anyone else at Rangers could have come up with a form of words or tone of warning which would have persuaded that minority of fans to stay at home, rather than celebrate outside Ibrox or at George Square, they are simply deluded. Just as Celtic and St Johnstone are not to blame for the fan gatherings prompted by their Scottish Cup and League Cup successes earlier this season, Rangers cannot be held responsible for the manner in which some of their support chose to mark the momentous occasion of their club’s 55th league title triumph. Similar scenes have been witnessed throughout the football world amid the coronavirus crisis, including large gatherings of Liverpool and Leeds United supporters to celebrate their respective Premier League and Championship title wins in England last summer. Regardless of the restrictions in place at any given time, a significant number of fans will continue to defy social-distancing and mark trophy successes by their clubs in similar fashion over the coming months as seasons reach their conclusion. When they do, it is a public order issue and not one which falls under the remit of any individual football club. The government can make the rules and the police chiefs can decide upon the most effective way to enforce them. Every sympathy should be extended to those rank and file officers who coped admirably with a challenging set of circumstances on Saturday and Sunday. But other than reminding supporters of the regulations and advising them to observe them, those in charge of football clubs have no control over events beyond the boundaries of their currently closed stadiums. No amount of deflection tactics should be allowed to obscure that reality.5 points
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Cant see what all the fuss is about. This has little to do with Rangers anyway and everything to do with a government desperately looking for anything that distracts the media from the SNP's recent embarrassments and especially the dreadful reversals in the polls. Almost everything in these statements is a corruption of the truth or an outright fantasy. The SNP has no interest in outdated concepts like truth or accuracy, merely in the effect on its public image. Best course of action for Rangers fans is to ignore it all and focus on supporting the club and that probably means refraining from doing the SNP's job for them by condemning our fellow supporters for celebrating a league championship.4 points
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As far as I'm led to believe the club had been involved in ongoing talks with police Scotland concerning Saturday's game so it looks to me like the person in charge of policing is the one who shou.d be on a charge of dereliction of duty .4 points
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They half own the copyright.... But we have definitely broken them - they have a 5 yr old running their twitter, lol3 points
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That is simply marvellous. I was at every single one of those games mentioned apart from Leipzig as I don’t do friendlies, and it touches an emotional nerve recalling it in such a well written article. Some (probably all) of the content that has come out from the club this last few days has been at a level I thought was impossible from the team there. Superb stuff.3 points
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With the relationship between Rangers and the SNP being made clearer by the day, I miss the perspective of our ScotNat Gersnet members. Unfortunately they seem to have run away and are no longer available to remind us by what deceit you can be a Rangers fan AND vote for Nippy The Lip.3 points
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Wait til the goon brigade find out about this..... more sharks being thrown about the Car Park2 points
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It's exactly this - the oldest trick in the political book. I've learned to dislike all political parties and politicians, devious scoundrels the lot of them2 points
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I suppose these recent jolly times from our supporters diverts media attention from the Salmond case and the report on children's education that they are bursting their balls trying to suppress2 points
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Worth noting that as well as latest "lies" from Nippy, Rangers are still awaiting a reply to letter sent to her in December. Parks letter to Her and Her cronies is excellent, with clear timelines showing who is really at fault for the lack of communication and leadership over the weekend. Also, a balanced article from The Scotsman, maybe there is still hope for what was once the leading printed publication in Scotland.2 points
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how can they possibly justify this after doing nothing abut Dubai. We better get a good lawyer and take this all this to CAS or court of session if needed.2 points
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The club would have been lambasted for doing that - they aren't allowed to. They would have needed prior permission from Scotgov. And if people had found out the club had opened Ibrox up then there would have been many, many thousands more who would have showed up and made it even worse.2 points
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Nothing and no one will convince me that the Chief Constable or Chief Constable Depute penned that ludicrous letter. It has the fingerprints of Humza all over it, and if I was a policeman, never mind the Guv'nor, I would be fizzing. The Club, now, has to tell the truth (and shame the shameless) about its dialogues with the authorities and with political representatives. There is little in Scotland more disgusting than the Sinners showboating on a sea of lies.2 points
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IMHO, a clear attempt of deflecting from their own shortcomings and faults. What happens outside Ibrox and Auchenhowie happens outside of Rangers` direct influence. Whatever we had said wouldn`t have stopped what happend on Sunday. But rest assured, had the police cordoned off St. Georges Square or other public places in advance of the Scum game ... and the Scum had won, the SNP and their lackeys would have slammed the police for overreacting, probably even laughing at them. That said, the comments of the Chief Constable seem somewhat over the top ... anyone knows his football allegiances?2 points
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If Rangers had been encouraging supporters to go out and celebrate their joy, the Police would have every right to complain but its their job to police the streets, not Rangers’ and if they can’t it’s the job of the government to provide the necessary resources. I used to know a few senior coppers. Only two of them had college degrees but even they had started feeling collars on the beat. None of them would have sat in overheated offices in short-sleeve shirts issuing statements, whining and buck passing.They would have been out clearing the streets.2 points
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Nothing Rangers could have said would have stopped the large gatherings. It was inevitable. If the SNP's collective knickers are in a twist about it, all the better.2 points
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Apologies if this has been posted elsewhere: Link: Repair George Square Benches Accidently Damaged Rangers Football Club celebrated their World Record 55th League Championship yesterday! For a football club to have come through so much and emerge to again become the Kings of Scottish Football is a remarkable achievement. The Rangers Support have been with the club all the way and it was to be expected that there would be joyous celebrations to follow. During these celebrations, there appears to have been accidental damage to a small number of memorial benches in George Square. This, whilst clearly unintentional, is not something the Rangers Support would like to have seen done and as a result, we are fundraising to replace these benches as a true and sincere gesture of respect. If there are any additional funds raised we will donate them to the Anthony Nolan Charity which helps save the lives of people with blood cancer and blood disorders. If you are aged between 16-30 you can also help by joining their donation register https://www.anthonynolan.org/8-ways-you-could-save-life/donate-your-stem-cells2 points
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Tommy and I? Yesterday, I watched ra Sellik huff and puff around Tannadice. The newly appointed interim manager, John Kennedy looked quietly terrified as he walked along the track at half time. Like me, I suspect he had seen enough. The wife announced her intent to create a seafood pasta, linguini vongole. I decided to head out for an appetite improving perambulation. We all have individual and collective memories of the Journey, on the cusp of securing the title, I decided to take the car to the West End Park. After the Empire Exhibition of 1901, the West End Park was renamed, 'Kelvingrove Park'. Whatever the name, it's where our club was founded. Those teenagers from Clyder, Roseneath, and Garelochead had moved to Gibson Street by their mid-teens, apprenticeships and study were the means. They trained on the slopes of the park, running from the river up towards Park Circus. Such was their enthusiasm, they trained six days and nights a week and became known as, 'The Moonlighters'. The final whistle blew in Dundee as I alighted from the car in Park Quad. I follow followed in the footsteps of Moses et al, as I headed down Hill Sixty towards the Highland Light Infantry Memorial. I passed fellow bears, holding mobiles aloft to film detonating fireworks. There was a Police presence, pairs were approaching folks and inquiring of reasoning for being in the park in groupings? I turned right and walked along the river towards the Gibson Street bridge. I remembered Glebe Park, traveling to the Ramsdens Cup tie, not knowing if the SFA had granted the club the necessary license. Brechin topiary gave way to hospitality at Peterhead. Four of us journeyed to the Blue Toon and sat in front of half-a-dozen dandies, who kept up a steady stream of vile abuse. Receiving no reaction, they quickly resorted to Disaster ditties. We maintained discipline, even as Kevin Kyle equalised in injury time, we applauded politely. I had concluded polite applause was so yesterday when I exited from under the bridge, into the Kelvinbridge Subway car park. There was more of a crowd milling, apparently the Subway had been suspended? Two Coppers approached and asked my intent? As the pyro' increased, I assured them I was not intent on using the Underground. The older Copper asked if I was celebrating? I told him I was, "very much so". He smiled, his partner scowled; so I elaborated, "it's Brother Tommy's fifty-fifth birthday today". The chorus was, "WHIT"? I informed them of Tommy Sheridan and departed with, "up the Workers"! As I headed back to the car and my Sunday repast, I wondered why Brother Tommy had not regaled his 55th with a celebratory video?2 points
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We had a grand day down here on Sunday a full house all the grandchildren plenty of refreshments the piano was played with great gusto at one point the brother was convinced that the herd of coos watching from the farm were dancing, probably a few tender heads yesterday morning.2 points
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Mrs 7 had to take her car to the garage this morning so went in to drive her home. First time my car has been on the road in months so I thought it best after dropping her off to drive a bit more to charge up the battery. From the back of the wardrobe I had fished out the famous old reefer, vintage 1959 and draped it casually over the console at the nearside and took it on an hour long tour of town and county. I’d have flown it out of the window but I didn’t want any snp folk trying to set fire to it at traffic lights. I don’t normally do flamboyant celebration so I’m resting quietly at home now. I’ll have calmed down by morning. Maybe..2 points
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I don't think they'd risk Martindale, Goodwin a more likely candidate, he's done well at St Mirren.1 point
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had my covid jag on Saturday and spent Sunday morning quite delirious. Then feeling better watched the celtc game and spent the afternoon feeling quite delirious.1 point
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Good point gs, as a dog owner, fireworks are an absolute nuisance and terrifying for pets. Not to mention completely unnecessary. Can we not just get the pubs open for a sash bash, eh, respectable celebration, where can celebrate in small groups not harming anyone?1 point
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