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Yes, Sakala brings enthusiasm and a directness that has been sadly lacking. As for contribution and end product, didn't he lay on a goal for Morelos and at least two more chances that should have been taken? Didn't he dispossess opponents deep in his own half on more than one occasion? He seems to me to be one of the last players we should be critical of.

I'll keep my powder dry until the real experts in the Celtc support have collected thier giro money, seen our accounts and written a 18,000 word blog on how we are going into admin again next Tuesday.

Yes he did and that's not his first performance like that. His end product was awful v Dundee of course but even Candeias wasn't perfect.

He was meaning the squad that is out injured!!😁

Windass on the other hand...

How can you go from being one of the fittest hardest working teams around to this embarrassment in the space of six months? No hunger, no desire, bereft of leadership, no belief, a complete destruction of player value. It's as if we've swapped double expresso's for mogadons.

This is Wilson's and the board's job, not the fans. He needs to be held to account.

It’s a lot better than many previous Boards. I don’t see many volunteers coming forward to replace them. Again who would you like to see on the Board? Genuine question.

There’s the comeback ended

Plzen, a worse team than us, in a more difficult group, are putting up more of a fight.

Its a virgin on the internet who posts made up nonsense for attention.

I can take being bottom of the group, what I can't take is the manner of how it happened not once, not twice but six f*&king times. We basically regressed with each and every game. Not one single player comes out of that campaign with any credit whatsoever not one single player.

But you should expect the team to at least compete , not stand off and admire the opposition .

I'd like to reiterate, we need a new manager if we want to win this league. GvB doesn't have it.

We know there's a financial gulf, but that doesn't excuse these capitulations. There's a comparative gulf between ourselves and Livingston, and they could have beaten us!

We were embarrassing dogshite in this tournament. We didn't even put up a fight, we just lay down and got buggered. It was a truly pathetic display over the course of the group stage. No one expected to do well in this tournament, but I did think we would turn up and give it our best shot. That wasn't our best shot.

At the moment: in Six (6) games We've scored one (1) goal. We've conceded what, nineteen (19). We may well finish tonight's business as the worst team ever to grace the CL Group Stages. So far, so inexcusable.

I’m not going to blame an 18 year old trainee who shouldn’t be asked to carry the Rangers defence on his shoulders.

If we had a forward who was consistently on form, with excellent stats, he'd be off to a bigger league fairly soon. Sakala at least looks consistently enthusiastic.

Wingers are inherently inconsistent. No question both need to be producing more end product.

Yes this is how we do it. Everything is polarised and no one ever changes thier mind on anything. Part of the Football forum internet rules.

As I said on FF, Sports Insider "understands!!" a well used Daily Record word for guessing.

We were a spot kick away from beating Frankfurt, who have since qualified for the CL last-16. We've been embarrassed. I don't expect us to win every game, merely put up a fight (that could still involve finishing 4th). GvB should've been able to do that - he did it last year, although now I'm thinking it's because of the work SG did - but he hasn't. Your financial gulf argument doesn't cut it. Plzen put up more of a fight with less resources. I can most definitely blame the manager. A different manager puts up more of a fight - I know SG would.

Not trying to argue anything. Facts show GVB got us to EL final last season and got us to CL this season. Performances in CL have shown we are well below the level required to compete at that level. Don't think that changes no matter who the manager is.

With a team and momentum built by Gerrard.

A EL final, a Scottish Cup trophy and CL qualification in just over 12 months in charge. Hard act to follow? If his successor doesn't match this is he sacked after 12 months? Serious question that potential candidates will ask? We need stability - if Gio isn't the person to take us forward then what expectations do you have for his successor and how long are they given to deliver?

The problem is who replaces GVB and how the board sell the position. We may be an attractive proposition for a young and upcoming manager who wants to gamble that they can take us forward. Alternatively is a currently unemployed manager who would see us a stepping stone back into management. The next "Gerrard-like" manager may well be out there, we just need to find him

Agree. I said before that I think the run to the EL final last season was due to the momentum we had in Europe thanks to Gerrard and although we were not firing fully domestically we did hold a 6 pint advantage at the top when GvB came in. He threw the lead away is regressing further this season (even factoring in the step up to the CL). He will not be winning anything at Rangers, but we'll stick with him anyway...until the end of the season at the very least.

Can Edminston House play in Europe?

Between another lethargic display and another 90 minutes of Kevin Thomson droning on, that was a pretty soul destroying game to watch.

Ignominious: causing or deserving of public humiliation and/or shame. Sums up the CL endeavours neatly and accurately, for me.

Remember John Bennet told us a few short weeks ago that this is the best squad we've had.

Matondo way too late coming on. A goal contribution within 2 minutes of coming on. The jury is very much out but he should be getting more opportunities given the competition he has.

The Marianas Trench I fear.

Tis scary just how far out of our depth we are.

More money, better players, deeper squad … against a threadbare squad of journeymen. What do we think will happen? So sad to watch but we’re in entirely the wrong company in this competition.

Can’t see that team getting anything out of this game. Hope I’m wrong

Do we have enough fit players to rest anyone....

Stop giving me shivers he's long gone.

I don't think the majority of fans who have paid their money would be happy with that.

Is that not what keeps the ball inflated and round? So basically full of air.

I have no shame in announcing i will enjoy this creatures downfall greatly. A simpleton who has a track record of being horrible throughout his life.

Remember when we looked forward to European nights? Good times...

He was first choice LB who out of necessity was moved to CB