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Tomorrow has Hearts v AEK Athens The Jam Tarts have started the season well with 3 wins out of 4, winning two difficult games at "home". Do you think they can continue the good work with a decent result against the Greeks at what should be a half filled Murrayfield? I think that the result against Celtic will have given them a great lift and a boost in self belief which could raise their game against a side which are only just recently recovering from debt problems and a decade of decline. I'm think they have a good chance of at least a narrow win but will have to be careful about losing a crucial away goal. Thursday has Gretna v Derry at Fir Park. Whatever the fourth Scottish representative in Europe, the traditional result is an ignominious early exit from what would normally be considered a complete minnow from a footballing backwater. Do you think Gretna will be another name added to the list of shame, or do you thing the 1st division new boys will carry the great spirit and determination with no lack of skill, that they used to narrowly lose the Scottish cup on penalties, into their first European experience with the Irish 3rd placed team? Derry created a shock to get to this stage of the competition by beating former conquerors of Rangers, IFK Gothenburg 1-0, both home and away. So it's fair to say they won't be coming as cannon fodder to the team who opened this season's account with a 6-0 thrashing of last years third placed team, Hamilton Accies. I think the way they are going they'll be the team to break the mould and actually give us a bit of a novelty European run although it will be very hard fought.

Didn't watch the game but seems to have impressed a few people. Anyone see the game and what type of player he is?

i never seen the game yesterday so i thought they were still playing in the hoops but then i sent the video on another thread and they are playing in a shity black and dark green strip WTF! is the white one there home top and thats there away one ?????? :confused:

Im quite looking forward to watching this game, at Tynecastle its normally a good affair with fast attacking football. Obviously want Hearts to win and i think they will 2-1. Im think il even have a wee flutter on them

http://www.rangers.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,5~876617,00.html

The Polish international is the subject of a report to the procurator fiscal following a six-month investigation. A number of complaints were received by police after the SPL match against Rangers at Ibrox on February 12, which Celtic went on to win 1-0. Boruc, 26, is said to have angered a section of the home support after allegedly making the religious gesture. A Crown Office spokesman said: "A report has been received and it is being considered." A Strathclyde Police spokeswoman said: "The circumstances surrounding the alleged actions of a football player during the Old Firm match at Ibrox on February 12 2006 have been investigated and referred to the procurator fiscal at Glasgow." The Polish goalkeeper, who played during this year's World Cup in Germany, signed for Celtic from Legia Warsaw in July last year.

Remember him from the Man Ure Celtic friendly last week? It's just been on Radio Clyde that we're wanting to sign him. Interesting!!!! He caused Celtic a few problems last week down the wing.

Absolutely loving it

1-0 to yoko:thup:

Neil Alexander (Cardiff City) Craig Gordon (Hearts) Graeme Smith (Motherwell) Graham Alexander (Preston North End) Russell Anderson (Aberdeen) Gary Caldwell (Celtic) Steven Caldwell (Sunderland) Christian Dailly (West Ham United) Jackie McNamara (Wolves) Graeme Murty (Reading) Gary Naysmith (Everton) Robbie Neilson (Hearts) Steven Pressley (Hearts) Andy Webster (Hearts) David Weir (Everton) Barry Ferguson (Rangers) Darren Fletcher (Manchester United) Paul Hartley (Hearts) Neil McCann (Hearts) Lee McCulloch (Wigan Athletic) Ian Murray (Rangers) Nigel Quashie (West Bromwich Albion) Scott Severin (Aberdeen) Gary Teale (Wigan Athletic) Chris Burke (Rangers) Kris Boyd (Rangers) Shaun Maloney (Celtic) James McFadden (Everton) Kenny Miller (Celtic) Garry O'Connor (Lokomotiv Moscow) The squad is seemingly just for a preperations session for Euro 2008 qualifiers, but still i expected to see Steve Smith in there, considering who's made it into the squad ahead of him!

Just saw this on another forum and thought that I'd post it here - a great read and shows more unbiased, fair and impartial reporting from Legget; --------------------- The Myth of Mart?s Celtic dominance To the Camelot of King Arthur and the Loch Ness Monster must be added the legend of Martin O?Neill?s dominance of Scottish football for the last five years. For as far as fables go that one is right up there with the Knights of the Round Table, not to mention auld Nessie herself. And if it continues to go unchecked then the myth will grow into a warped reality, especially for those seeming illiterates who cannot consult the record books. Not to mention those who may not be sufficiently numerate to be able to work out the mathematics of those five seasons during which Celtic and their fans were completely under the spell of the Ulsterman. Therefore, for the record, let this column state, of the 15 domestic trophies which were competed for, O?Neill?s Celtic won 7. That is precisely the same amount of silverware captured by Rangers since the summer of 2000. And before those of a Parkhead persuasion point to the 3 championships included in the O?Neill haul to just 2 taken by Rangers, let?s examine another aspect. During the 3 full seasons which saw O?Neill and McLeish in direct confrontation, Rangers won 2 titles to Celtic?s single success. In fact, in the half of the season to play out when McLeish took over at Ibrox in December 2001 ? with O?Neill having outstripped Dick Advocaat by 14 points ? Rangers beat Celtic in the semi-final of the League Cup on their way to winning that trophy, and then in the final of the Scottish Cup. Therefore, the fact of the matter is that while Celtic enjoyed greater overall silverware success under O?Neill than at any time since the Jock Stein era, they were far from being the dominant force. Indeed of the eleven trophies at stake during the O?Neill-McLeish rivalry, the Scot took 7 to the Ulsterman?s mere 3! But if the true measure of domination is to be taken as the championship ? as it must ? then O?Neill?s record of 3 titles in 5 years is exactly the same as Billy McNeill achieved between 78 and 83. Big Billy also lifted 2 Scottish Cups and a League Cup for a haul of 6 trophies, just one fewer than O?Neill, yet nobody spoke of dominance then. In his first 5 full campaigns, Jock Stein won the title every year for Celtic, while over a comparable period Walter Smith did exactly the same with Rangers. Now that is dominance and puts any outlandish claims for O?Neill and his misguided disciples firmly into the context of history. No doubt those poor souls will hark back to Seville and quote it in the manner of some Holy Grail. Let this column therefore put that into historical context too, and remind them O?Neill and Celtic actually lost. Stein never harked back to the losing 1970 European Cup Final, and neither did Scot Symon, who took Rangers to the ECWC Finals of both 1960 and 67, only to end like O?Neill, a second best loser. What O?Neill?s greatest achievement as Celtic manager seems to have been was to give the club?s supporters back a guid conceit of themselves. Though as so few appear to see themselves as Scottish as their great Lisbon Lions captain, that phrase may not strike a chord with them. Restoring self esteem to the green and white hordes was in itself a mammoth task, and for achieving it O?Neill must be congratulated. Just 2 titles in the 14 years before his arrival had left Celtic and their supporters bereft of anything except bluster. That though is a major positive side of the legacy which MON left at Parkhead. On the negative side is the fact he allowed a team to grow old together. And in building that team he switched from the traditional slick passing Celtic style to a bruising bullying brigade of big men. That those many Celtic fanatics have long romanticised about the way they like to see their team play, accepted it goes a long way to underlining my point about lack of self esteem. But it is in the darker reaches of what may have gone on within Parkhead that there must be suspicion about the legacy left by this complicated, brooding Ulsterman. One London journalist who claims a close friendship with him, and who only last week alleged he was being touted as the next England manager by senior FA sources, recently wrote that MON was a conspiracy theorist. This view did not come as a surprise to those of us who observed him at close quarters for 5 years. MON has often given the impression of a man who could spot a grassy knoll at half a mile ? even without his specs. Indeed, just before he took his leave of Glasgow, he made some strange and disturbing remarks claining there were personal vendettas against him. He certainly seemed to know all about vendettas and gave one a new lease of life with his treatment of linesman Andy Davis at the Scottish Cup Final when it looked as though he refused to shake the official?s hand at the end. Then there was his infamous BBC interview when he would not answer a straight question about whether he felt he could have an influence on sectarian behaviour by making a direct appeal to Celtic supporters. This column has always taken the view ? and it is not alone ? that MON always seemed to believe any sectarian problem was not Celtic?s fault. Perhaps that was something to do with the fact of which side of the Ulster divide MON was brought up in. But here is where the water becomes too deep to enter. In fact, down in such murky depths lurks more danger than even Nessie. And she is one of the few bigger myths in Alba than the one about MON?s dominance of Scottish football.

http://www.portsmouth.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=24970 Quite funny:D

I have to say one aspect of this summer has left me feeling very disappointed. We have brought in one of the most respected young coaches in the game, a coach players almost universally look up to and admire. A coach with great clout in the game and a great reputation. Even without a budget, we expected some truly inspiring names to join us. Hell, we were linked with players like Kallstrom, Dhorasoo, and Givet to name just 3. But since our glut of acquisitions like Sionko, Svensson and Clement, we have been linked with absolutely no one, despite PLG stating we still need more players. We haven't made any one signing of the gravity we expected given the coaches name and pedigree. No big names have been signed by us. Sure, we had fantastical speculation like Zidane for a while, but nothing to really get the juices flowing has materialised. And then today we hear Celtic are in for 2 genuine world talents in Timoschuk and Venegoor. I have to say if PLG's revolution has let me down in one area, it's been the lack of exciting transfer speculation and actual acquisitions. We have signed good players, and we seem to be building a team around individuals who will make a good solid unit. It's just a wee bit of a let down that we've not brought in any exciting stars. Remember the excitement when we signed de Boer, for example? I thought PLG's name would alone be enough to get us some major players. It just hasn't happened.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/5219744.stm He'd do well in scotland also interested in some ukranian guy who I've never heard of

Just watched this on 5, Timmy look shocking especially at the back.should have been many more. After the 3rd goal a Timmy fan even went into the centre circle, waved his arms in disgust and throws away his Tmiiy scarf. HAHA.

How good does this make you feel . In an interview with Arsenal Manager Arsene Wenger he was asked about PLG , he said .,. "If I was a Celtic fan next season I would be afraid....VERY AFRAID" Arsene Wenger How good does that make Rangers fans feel ! Superb stuff

If you remember last season, the Jungle Bhoys imploded over the anti-sectarian and racism banners that were unfurled at Parkhead in gte final OF game of the season. In their remaining home games, sections of TJB indulged in sectarian and racist chanting (I'd rather wear a turban than a sash - soon there will be protestants at all and various IRA ditties). Well, now parts of the Jungle Bhoys have set up a splinter group called, wait for, Bhoys From The Green Brigade (I kid you not). Here is their manifesto - it is fucking hilarious reading guys and gals ; "Out of the ashes of the Jungle Bhoys, comes the Green Brigade. I was involved in the JBs last season, but after Bannergate, I, along with many others, could never go back. So the 'splitters' decided to hold a meeting, where it was decided we'd go ahead with a new group. In recent seasons, there has been much debate about the atmosphere, or to be more accurate, the lack of atmosphere at Celtic games. To counter the perceived apathy amongst our support, a group named the Jungle Bhoys was formed. For various reasons, we do not feel that this group will be able to fulfill our aspirations and properly reflect the true nature of our support base. We are not set up in opposition to the aforementioned group and wish them every success in what they hope to achieve. We aim to offer an alternative to them. We are open to everyone who cares passionately about our great football club. We acknowledge and embrace the traditions of our support and hope to get some passion back into the stands. For some following Celtic is a hobby akin to going to the cinema or watching their favourite group. Their pernicuous influence has taken root and now it has become fashionable to come in late and leave early and spend the time in the stadium chatting to your mates via text messages. We do not intend to tell anyone how to support their team but if you are one of these people then our group is not for you. If, on the other hand, you still view going to the football as an experience to be savoured then you will find like minded people within our ranks. Here are a few bits of information about our group, as well as some of our aims. -The Green Brigade is an ultras group. We admire the way that fans in Europe support their team, and we would like to add some of that passion to our support. -We are an all-inclusive group. We will not discriminate against people because of their race, religion, political stance, etc, though nazi's/fascists are not, and will never be, welcome within our ranks. -We are not run by a committee. Every decision goes to a vote in which all members can have their say. -We believe Celtic's history is firmly rooted in Ireland, as well as Scotland. -We believe we should be allowed to sing about the struggle of the Irish people, without fear of ejection from the stadium. -We will not be dictated to by the PLC. -As we refuse to co-operate with the PLC in any way, our displays will be limited, predominantly, to away grounds. -We aim to support our team through song, whether we win, lose or draw. -We aim to add colour to Celtic Park, and whatever other stadium Celtic play in. -We aim to make going to watch Celtic fun again. If you want to help out in any way, whether it be hands-on, like helping out in the making of banners, setting up of displays, or helping with fundraising, donations, acquiring materials, then visit or messageboard at greenbrigade.proboards77.com We welcome any constructive criticism and ideas from our fellow fans, as "football without fans is nothing". Green Brigade" Boys Against Bigotry - tut, tut, tut... Cammy F

Here weeeeeeeeeeee go:thup:

Who gives a shit.... but Moyes has confirmed they are interested. From skysports Everton boss David Moyes has revealed Celtic are interested in Gary Naysmith. Celtic are searching for a left back and as revealed by skysports.com, Naysmith is among their list of targets. The Scottish champions are now thought to be ready to step up their interest in Naysmith after being frustrated in their attempts to sign Sparta Prague ace Michal Kadlec. Naysmith's future at Everton is unclear with several players battling for the left back spot at Goodison Park. Moyes has admitted he could be willing to let Naysmith go for the right price as he is well stocked at left back. The former Preston boss told Radio Clyde that Celtic are keen on Naysmith and that if they are willing to offer up to a �£1 million for the ex-Hearts star a deal could be done.

Doesn't look like it to me! Scotland squad: Goalkeepers: Scott Fox (Celtic), Andrew McNeil (Hibernian) Defenders: Andrew Cave-Brown (Norwich City), Scott Cuthbert (Celtic), Garry Kenneth (Dundee United), Mark Reynolds (Motherwell), Greg Ross (Dunfermline), Lee Wallace (Hearts) Midfielders: Jamie Adams (Kilmarnock), Greg Cameron (Dundee United), Ryan Conroy (Celtic), Simon Ferry (Celtic), Charles Grant (Celtic) Michael McGlinchey (Celtic) Forwards: Graham Dorrans (Livingston), Calum Elliot (Hearts), Steven Fletcher (Hibernian), Robert Snodgrass (Livingston).

The fact Duff is considering going to Spurs only reinforces what I've always thought, that if ourselves and Celtic were in the Premiership, we'd make an impact. With the added TV money on top of our gate receipts and following, you can only imagine the quality of player we could attract (and afford) to Ibrox. It'll never happen obviously, but its nice to dream sometimes.

I just had to start this thread early. *gets ready to watch celtic getting pumped again.

Looks like our neighbours over in the east are a bunch of unhappy campers the now. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/5179532.stm

Since Sunday evening the whole World has been debating what Italian defender Marco Materazzi said to Zinedine Zidane to make the retiring Frenchman react in the way he did. The French captain, in his last ever professional game, thrust his head into Materazzi's chest in Sunday's World Cup Final resulting in a red card and shame for Zidane. Today, with the help of Italian lip-reader Arturo Belladini, we can reveal what drove Zidane to self destruct; Materazzi was seen to hold Zidane's shirt on the edge of the penalty box in extra-time at which point Zidane said "if you want my shirt so bad you can have it" Materazzi responded "I dont want your shirt you m***** f*****. you're a f****** old man" As they jog away Zidane is seen to laugh at this and it is unclear how he responded due to him having his back to the TV camera Materazzi then hit a volley of abuse "you should've quit 2 years ago, you're a f****** has-been" "m***** f*****! your mum is a f****** muslim terrorist and you are to, f*** you old man f*** you" "old man, this arena is not for you anymore m***** f*****" Zidane carries on jogging away "you are only good enough for Glasgow Celtic now" It's at this very point Zidane turned and head-butted him. Who saw it coming?

0-0 but the dc united fans are chanting "we love the rangers" which i thought was nice and ADU is taking the piss out of this celtic defence:thup: 1-0 dc *adu scored*