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It's not to excuse our fans but maybe Kilmarnock should also put up a sensible barrier to separate fans from the disabled facility, or provide a structure that's robust enough to offer better protection. I sometimes think no one in Scottish football gives a second's thought to the needs of disabled fans, whatever their allegiance. It's a bloody disgrace.

The roof was constructed purely to provide shelter from the elements for the wheelchair users below a purpose it has served well and one I have been thankful for on many occasions, it was not constructed as a dance floor nor as a platform to bounce up and down on. No idiots on the roof and the roof doesn't collapse simples.

Of course it's a fair question. Some managers will react differently in some situations. I'd imagine that yesterday Gerrard will already have went through his players many times regarding our tempo and loss of shape. He didn't get much of a reaction, if any. As such, perhaps he felt taking a step back and letting them sort it out themselves was a better tactic and, to be fair, a few players finally stepped up when the going got tough in those last ten mins. He was also fairly clever after the match, choosing to praise the players publicly and enjoying the last minute winner. Privately though I'd fancy he was raging with the performance and I wouldn't like to be a Rangers player this morning when they review the match as very few of them got pass marks.

Looking at our opponents and potential opponents last seasons European results; The Danes (I’m not attempting to spell that every time!) entered the same competition in QR3 last year and comfortably saw off Welsh side New Saints 2-0 in Wales and 3-1 at home for a 5-1 aggregate victory. In QR4 they played Malmo and drew 2-2 in Sweden before losing the home tie 2-0 to lose out on group stage action. This will be their first European action this season. Legia started 18/19 in the Champions League qualifiers in QR1against Cork, winning 1-0 away and 3-0 at home, then going on to play Slovakian side Spartak Trnava, losing the home leg 2-0, winning the away leg 1-0 to go out 2-1 on aggregate and drop down into the Europa where they played Dudelange from Luxembourg, losing the home leg 2-1and drawing the away leg 2-2 to go out 4-3 on aggregate. Worth noting they got red cards in both legs of that tie. This season they started in QR1 beating Europa of Gibraltar 3-0 at home after a 0-0 first leg on the rock. In R2 they beat KuPS 1-0 at home and drew 0-0 away. Atrimitos played QR3 of Europa League last year where they lost to Dinimo Brest of Belarus 4-3 in the away leg, and drew 1-1 at home to be eliminated at the first time of asking, picking up a red card as well along the way. This season they started in R2, beating Slovak side Streda 2-1 away and 3-2 at home.

100% agree, it's only when Rangers fans do it there is total uproar. All clubs & SFA should be doing more for disabled fans.

Thing is there's similar footage floating about of Rangers fans doing the exact same at Pittodrie. I wish people would realise there is no moral high ground on this issue it affects all wheelchair fans irrespective of what colour scarf they wear.

Well he has only been here a short time, we have improved with more to come. Still hard to believe we have SG as Rangers manager, he is driven and I'm sure we will keep improving. I never pay attention to a managers reactions during the game, don't want him ranting and raving, kicking things and snarling it has zero affect on players/results, ripping the players a new arsehole in the changing rooms is where it should be done.

This might be something that's been tried in the past but would it be possible to run a MOTM poll for (say) 24 hours after every game. It would be interesting to see which players consistently emerge as top performers over the course of a season.

Like deja vu from last season Frankie, inabiliy to keep a clean sheet and lacking inspiration in the final 3rd time, sorry to sound negtive folks, but thats the way I saw it.

Really p****d off on twitter today, all I see is Rangers fans trying to blame Kilmarnock or somehow pointing out that invading the pitch isn’t as bad as child abuse. By that logic any behaviour short of murder would be acceptable! Those 2 or 3 guys on the disabled roof deserve a lifetime ban & possible police action imo, pitch invaders maybe a year. If anything completely sums up Twitter though, its folk making excuses for behaviour from their ‘side’ while feigning complete outrage & calling for action when the other ‘side’ do the exact same thing. And not just football fans, but also politics, etc..

I know for a fact they were fully aware of exactly what they were dancing on just before they landed on me and my friends, how none of us were seriously injured is simply miraculous. Behaviour such as that has been highlighted to both Kilmarnock stewards and Rangers security for years, they were fully aware of our concerns but did absolutely nothing to address them other than patronise us.

Forlanssister, In total agreement. 1. It should all be reported. 2. They should all face the consequences, lives are being endangered.

I think we also need to recognise that Gerrard is human too and his teams will achieve more if he also feels supported and trusted.

Not if they ran on the pitch it's not. Fans know fine well they are not allowed to leave the stand, there is absolutely no excuse for dozens of fans to go spilling onto the pitchside out of the stand. If some fans cant control themselves when we score a goal, they shouldnt attend.

We have really hit the jackpot here. While Legia if I recall have had some decent Euro results in the last few years, compared to who we could have got, both in rounds 3 and 4, we have a great chance to go through to the group stages again, with the financial benefits which are necessary to continue our rebuilding. I'm delighted with this draw!!

A life ban for someone celebrating with our own players is a bit extreme.

Thanks Frankie. The last thing I wanted to do was start a thread that went into being anti Gerrard, I think the word "assessing" is fair. It was maybe a knee jerk reaction and old school thought from me thinking he should have been up ranting on the touchline - perhaps passion got in the way. I also say perhaps Gerrard believed in his players to react and win it which we did and obviously his winning reaction was the same as all of us.

What our fans did yesterday on the roof of the disabled section was pathetic. Absolute fuckin cunts. Killie should charge Ranngers and Rangers should bill the fools for the repair and then get them done with a vandalism. Morons.

I feel that at such a late stage he's actually doing the right thing by sitting down and taking what little time there was prior to play resuming to think is there any way I can tweak this situation to salvage it with such little time left. Or do I continue as we are still trusting they're capable of pull something out right to the end. These decisions can't be efficiently reasoned if standing on a touchline ranting.

Excellent post mate and I agree totally. If you have a water leak then it isn't always at the point the water is dripping.

Very difficult one today with no stand out performances. I see Tav & Barasic getting peters on here but I thought both were decent enough, the 2 CBs were involved in both our goals and not at fault for their goal so have both done their job. Davis had a decent first half, Jack same, but both were poor in 2nd half. Aribo & Ojo were the 2 poorest today for me, Arfield made tons of good runs, got a goal but found it hard to really get on the ball in good areas (11 man defence has a lot to do with that) and Morelos was a threat when he wasn’t getting booted, shoved, elbowed etc all over the park. Subs were ineffective but didn’t have much game time. Probably give it to Goldson just for the attitude to get to that ball for the winner despite being fouled.

Criticism is welcome mate. I actually believe it was on the agenda but indeed due to time restraints Colin probably decided to drop it.

He's probably the best tackler we have.

"it has to be said". Above is the phrase Jonathon Sutherland uses on Sportscene as a preamble to accusations against Rangers supporters. Yesterday's match at Kilmarnock has been BBC Scotland's main news item today, even surpassing claims by a Trade Unionist that the new Edinburgh Sick Kids hospital might be partly torn down, before opening. I have no doubt the BBC Scotland newsroom will blame Rangers supporters for problems in the £150 million hospital's ventilation and drainage as soon as a Sub-Editor can write, 'shoddy H-u-n workers attempt to asphyxiate and drown sick kids'? The lunch time bulletin reported Police Scotland have made four arrests. The Justice System has set it's wheels in motion and that's how it should be. I hope the wheelchair bound supporters inside the destroyed shelter have given the necessary statements. Sub Judice prevents me from saying more at this time. Last week, in all pre-season discussions the PQ Gang Hut to a man chorused, 'all the pressure is on Rangers'. Trial by Sportscene served up a spoonful or two of pressure, then the newsroom sent a camera crew and interviewer to the wilds of Ayrshire to deliver pressure and two veg'. The turnip for the books was Killie's Chief Executive, Phyllis McLeish. A clearly anxious Phyllis was dry swallowing as she looked down the camera, it appeared Auntie Beeb was running interference on her Prosecco time? However, Phyllis delivered, she blamed Rangers players for crowd disruption, "they were all running towards the Rangers support", after notching a ninetieth minute winner. Further, none of this was Killie's fault, "Kilmarnock FC cannot be blamed". BBC Scotland did not inform the viewers whether they had approached Rangers? Well, I don't know. Are Rangers players allowed to celebrate last minute winners? We know that Rangers players are not allowed to celebrate mid second half winners, Andy Halliday was red carded for pumping his fist in the middle of the Cappielow centre circle. You see, if Rangers players are allowed to celebrate last minute clinchers, then the BBC manufactured pressure cooker must be removed from the hob. At the end of May, Killie defeated Rangers with a 93rd minute penalty. Brophy slotted it home and wheeled away to the corner of the Main and Moffat Stands, where the Killie fans were wildly celebrating. February this year, Scott Brown scored a 90th minute winner at Rugby Park in front of ra Sellik supporters in the Chadwick. He jumped the hordings and embraced several of the dozens of pitch invading Bhoys. Trial by Sportscene cleared these actions, emotional game, adrenaline fueled, ..... etc. It has to be said - Killie defeated Rangers in the first game after the winter break. The Chief Executive, Phyllis McLeish celebrated inappropriately. The wife of Alan, owner of Killie's main sponsor, the QTS group; was stopped by the police and breathalysed. She was twice the legal limit. The pressure is on BBC Scotland to explain their grim determination to elevate a sports item to top of their news agenda. Particularly, when similar last minute winners that have inspired pitch invasions have not made it on to general news, let alone top item. It has to be said.

They've also had some shockers. They had a good run in the 2016/17 Europa league, but last year they were knocked out by Dudelange (Lux) and, the year before, Sherriff Tiraspol (Moldova).

I'm not convinced Candeias would have sought a transfer if he hadn't been humiliated by being left out of the first European squad. He could have been an asset this season and I'd blame Gerrard for his departure. That's my biggest criticism of Gerrard over the pas couple of months but nobody is perfect and it's easy to criticise with the benefit of hindsight.

There shouldnt need to be a fragile roof warning, any human being with even a little common sense should know better than to leave their seat and jump on a roof at a football match. There is a growing ned element within our away support, which is going to become a significant problem if not dealt with soon. I'm not blaming the UB members who I was quite close to yesterday and while I personally want that drum shoved somewhere the sun doesnt shine, they did nothing wrong themselves, unless of course it was one of them that let of the disgusting smoke bombs at the goals, I am not sure exactly where that came from. But the Union Bears hangers-oners are simply wee bucky-ed up arseholes intent on trying to be more hardcore than the guy next to them. They are the ones always trying to start songs which will get us into trouble, always the ones looking to cause it with stewards/police, and of course the pitch invasion. There is absolutely no excuse to try to run on the pitch. No good can ever come of it. I have been to thousands of games and never felt the need to run on, I just stand where I am and celebrate with those around me. Of course back in the old days of terracing a goal celebration could see you moved about 20 yards from where you started, but with the seats there I rarely get more than a couple of yards. If they cannot help themselves but run on the pitch when we score, the please please dont come to the games. I hope Rangers can identify everyone who encroached onto the pitch, and those on the disabled shelter roof, and life ban every single one of them. I was absolutely disgusted at the scenes at the goal yesterday, albeit most of which I only seen when I got home and watched the goals and analysis back, as I was too busy jumping up and down like a nutter when we scored to notice too much at the time.

Aberdeen and Falkirk both have similar areas and both suffer from the same problems of idiots banging and jumping on the roofs.

Two fans were the main cause,as the third in a Gers to was balancing on the structure(still no excuse) and should be able to be identified,fined in court made to pay for repair and subsequently lifetime ban from Rangers games. As for our players whether or not it is/was an important goal the club should reprimand them for leaving playing area and,IMO,causing fans to react as they did.I know that the fans would have reacted anyway but should not be encouraged by players.

I have a worry in the back of my head with Gerrard. We seem to blow hot and cold. We're good at home but so unpredictable away from home. He seems to have 2 sets of tactics and doesn't know what his best XI is. There's just a doubt in my head with him. It's a small doubt but a doubt none the less.

Jack overall, but have to give it to Connor for saving our bacon!

i think we need to put aside our hatred for Hibs and see this as a great opportunity for Middleton to get some game time in a league that he needs to crack if he’s to have a future with us. Hekingbottom seems to be a good coach and Hibs have an attractive playing style unlike other teams like Killie. If he can push on with them this may be the best option, and he wouldn’t play against us. Could be a win/win.

There's little basis for criticism of Goldson who I thought had a decent enough game. Of the defenders, Barasic continues to irritate ... how many times did he receive the ball out wide in a forward position only to routinely play it backwards? The only time Barasic seems willing to plat a forward pass is when he's pithing ten yards of his own bye line. He must have so much more to contribute but doesn't look like he has the confidence meantime to give it. And our captain has yet to show any kind of form. If anything worried me it was our apparent inability to adapt and cope with Killie when they changed to a more expansive game.

Really he was playing as a centre forward should be ---hassling,being a nuisance,getting stuck in if that is reason for booking it's unbelievable.

I thought Barisic did OK in the first half but didn't impose himself at all on the game after half-time. He's just far too passive. Halliday is perhaps the better option despite his faults.

It seems odd, to me, that any negative focus is on our CBs. We have four decent CBs and our obvious problems are all further up the pitch.

Not for the first time you talk nonsense about Goldson. Almost every post you call him a bombscare when it's just not true and it's pretty tedious to be honest. Goldson did give the ball away too much today but that's because, in the second half mainly, Jack, Davis and Aribo all passed the buck when it came to getting the ball forward or breaking the lines with their passing. Instead, time after time, they gave it back to Goldson who either had nothing on, or did pass it and got it straight back. He'd then play it long and not always to a Rangers player which isn't good enough. I've criticised him for that lack of patience but he wasn't the only one guilty of it. Katic ballooned a few of his effort too unfortunately, whilst Tav was awful (last 5mins aside) and Barisic largely hid after half-time. In terms of his defensive duties though Goldson, as usual, was as solid throughout and I can't remember him giving the ball away in dangerous areas once, never mind four times. As for Katic, I'm as big a fan of his no-nonsense style as anyone else but his distribution is very, very weak and his positioning isn't as good as it can be. That often leads to Halliday or Barisic playing further inside than they should be leaving us open to the cross-field pass and a few times that was an issue in the second half. That's why the manager has paid £3m for Erlander. By all means criticise players and support your favourites Pete but be fair and a bit more measured. Goldson is our first choice defender and rightly so. If he was any sort of 'bombscare' he wouldn't be in the team and wouldn't be vice-captain either. He's certainly not perfect and his lack of pace (or at least his weakness on the turn) is a concern for me but he's more reliable than anyone else and organises the defence more than the other centre-halves we've had of late. Can Edmundson or Erlander displace him? Perhaps they can and they will rightly be rotated in but Goldson has had a fine 14 months at Rangers and I have as much confidence in him as the manager thankfully does.

Either way it was stupid behaviour and now it's headlines that could have been easily avoided if they had just stayed in the stand. This cult of "look at me, I'm an uber fan" is silly. You're not an uber fan. You are just an idiot

3 points the albatross off our backs will do for me.Maybe Morelos didn't cover properly at goal ,but where were left sided defenders?. Praise must go to Alfie for not reacting to the wrestling throw by Broadfoot and the question asked of the Hobbit why he had to speak to both as it was all the Killie's player actions. Unfortunately the headlines are made by the morons dancing on the disabled shelter causing collapse and injury.The club MUST seek out the fat,baldy guy in black and the guy in the pink shirt and ban them from any further games, IMO.as we can do without negative headlines this early.