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It’s facile to keep spouting about 4-3-3. We could have played any formation last night but if players can’t control the ball, pass accurately or put in a decent cross then the formation is the least of our worries. We lost to Malmö because too many in the team let themselves and the club down. Fullbacks were dreadful, central defenders were a bombscare, etc etc. It’s about players, not formations.

I said at 75 minutes last night that we could play for hours and not score again. I have said similar and been proved wrong before though. Switch it wide, cross it, lose the ball, get it back, switch it wide, cross it, lose the ball, get it back...yadda, yadda, yadda...

Eh? Was the Braga outcome clear when they were 2-0 just before the 70th minute?

You’re being a bit snide as usual but yes if Helander was available it’s a baffling decision and it cost us last night with two moments of very poor defending.

We’ve been moving the ball far too slowly and rarely is it vertical. Last night we played far, far too many square balls in defense and midfield. Shifting the play from one side to the other is fine, but once you do so, you have to make vertical passes to get beyond their low block. We didn’t do it. we also moved the ball too slowly for playing against 10 men. Last week they were out on their feet after 70 minutes get last night, for the most part, they were fine….. because we didn’t have them chasing anything. So disappointing - such an opportunity to make the CL proper. As said already, the formation wasn’t the issue. We dominated them for the first 40 minutes and, in fairness, we could have been out of sight by half time. I’m not even sure the personnel was the issue given that first 40 minutes. But after the break we collapsed, mentally. I do think we badly missed Kamara and even Roofe last night - so the fall out from Slavia has hurt us badly. We also aren’t having any luck. At various points last season we carried that wee bit of luck but so far this year we haven’t. There were a number of efforts last night that were last ditch blocks that on another night would have went in. But up 1-0 against 10 men we shouldn’t have to rely on luck.

We hit the same road of 4-3-3 with Warburton and how much was "make Plan A better" line laughed at. Once the opposition suss out the players in their positions, they adapt. We didn`t learn that in SG`s first season, when we fell away after the turn of the year. It was the same in the year of the vote, when we managed to go 13 points behind within 8 eight weeks or the like. Last season worked as Morelos and Roofe brought a new dimension with their interplay, plus Hagi, Kent and Co. all performing on a consistently good level. Primarily though, we didn`t shed too many goals, especially in those close affairs when we failed to break down the trench-diggers. And we had either Jack or Kamara to do the hard yards and they cleared much before it became a danger. While our midfield-to-front crew did their usual stuff, to an extent at least, our defence was jittery ever since Livingston and Real. That`s three games on the trott that we have lost, 2 for farcical defending ... by the "usual suspects". Tonight Malmö were as clinical as we were in Europe these last few seasons, making the best of the opportunities that presented themselves. Kudos to them. What I expect for Ross County is Roofe, Sakala and Morelos up front, Wright and Hagi in behind. And maybe a start for Patterson, Helander and Simpson. Chuck that 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 for a while - not least against the lesser lights of the Premiership - and go back to basics. EDIT: We actually play Dunfermline this Friday, an even greater opportunity for freshen things up ... and learn from that. EDIT 2: Whoever thought up the third kit and whoever made us wearing it tonight should be gelded. What a pain ...

When they went down to ten men we should have made tactical changes to benefit us. We did nothing at all

Man Utd, 1999 CL final. Game was done…. That’s the perfect example right there

Hopefully, we will be Marching Through Armenia, in the Europa League. Or, at worst, Kazakhstan, which doesn't scan. (Either)

From my memory it was obvious. We were well beaten in all departments until we scored the first against Braga. Please define "obvious". If Salaka's shot goes in we could have rallied and got another. There are no certainties in football when there are 1 or 2 goals in it.

I didn't get in until the 8th minute of the second half. Smartcard didn't work and had to go to the ticket office to get a paper one but the queue was the whole length of the Govan Stand and past the Copland, 3 or 4 deep. There were thousands in the same situation. The whole thing was incredibly badly handled. There were people in the queue who whose tickets had been sold to them and someone else. The Albion carpark was closed at 7.15 and permit holders didn't get in. It was dreadful treatment of the supporters.

There will always be justified and unjustified criticisms at Rangers games. That's just our way. However, the ticket situation is something that the club should be looking to fix ASAP. Quite simply, the system isn't good enough (season ticket holders having to log onto a poorly designed site for over 30 minutes in order to purchase their tickets and smart cards not working properly).

Wholly unfair. Just because he wasn’t there doesn’t mean he isn’t entitled to an opinion. Bailing on the team when they need you most is frustrating. Those leaving at 75 minutes who stay 10 minutes away are worse than someone living 350 miles away who isn’t there and, quite possibly, couldn’t be there anyway. Guy behind me last night left at 70 because, and I quote, “I’d rather have a beer”. Each to their own but trying to say someone shouldn’t have an opinion because they weren’t there rather than showing annoyance at those who left after 70 minutes is missing the target IMO.

I agree with his point, but, "old enough to remember 94/95"? Well, yes; it was only a couple of years ago-- wait. Oh. F*ck...

We actually went with a 4-4-2 diamond with Kent in the hole and Morelos and Sakala up front, as the latter came on. Didn't change much. The players were still p*sh. I get your point, though; we should have made changes, to go for it more. To be fair, though, I'm not sure if it was so wrong to still be conservative after half-time; we were level and in a dominant position. But, when we went behind, certainly.

Should have played Balogun against Dundee Utd and Helander against Malmo then IMO.

You are forgetting the record breaking sponsorship deal with cinch.

Just home and that is a sore one to take. Started well, got into a lead, they had a man sent off and we were in the box seat. 2nd half started the same way as 2nd half did last week and we lose 2 terrible goals. Goldson and Balogun all over the place for the goals. The SPFL title was and is our No1 priority given it means automatic entry into the CL group stages and secured us circa £30M. However we are 1 OF defeat away from a crisis and serious questions being asked of the managers and players. I have utter confidence that they can turn it around, but they are running out of time. Roll on Friday ?

Explain the shortcomings of 433. Then explain what problems your preferred alternative would solve.

I’m actually in a state of stunned shock at that 2nd half display , I thought we were excellent for the vast majority of the first half and absolutely abysmal 2 nd half , I have a feeling this just might be a rough old season . We really need the midfield sorted out pronto .

Back in the day, before the CL, we bowed out of Europe often enough early doors too. Or were handed our backsides by the teams of the day in the group stages. The last three seasons in Europe with SG were probably the most satisfying in many a long year, despite 2008 or some ventures under Advocaat.

Thought the warning signs were there at the end of the 1st half tbh.

11 goals and 15 assists in 70 games for candeias. certainly decent when added to his work rate.

You're wrong, but is that not enough?

Anyone wanting a ticket for Friday’s game ? I have two available side-by-side in the Club Deck…. Going for the princely sum of FREE. DM and I’ll get onto the club and have them turned to paper tickets for you ??

You're fighting a straw man. I don't know what you get out of that. As an act of kindness I will attempt to clarify my very simple point. It's quite obvious that to complain about fans leaving early when not attending at all is almost always worth ignoring. The only time that I would take that seriously would be if it came from a person who tried, and failed, to buy a ticket. I suspect that the poor fellow didn't try to attend last night. Should I take opinions on other matters seriously? Who knows? I'm not making any general claim about that.

Appalling spelling. It was Yasser Isarat

We will need to agree to disagree. 1. we were up 1-0 whilst having played against 11 men. 2. At half time it was Malmo that had to change things given the sending off and, less significantly, the score line. 3. If we had changed our system at half time without knowing what changes would be made at 2 above we would literally have been guessing. 4. The tie was even, we were up 1-0 AND we had a man advantage. That doesn’t equate to a need to change things. For all those reason we had absolutely NO reason to change things at half time. The manager can’t legislate for a total capitulation from his players. So because they kept their two strikers on you wanted us to do what ? Play 5 at the back instead of 4 ? Against 10 men ?

Funnily enough, was listen to a classical radio station yesterday and they played Marching Through Georgia.

I've been critical of C1872 recently but well done to them on getting a timely statement issued.

Unless you are SEVERAL goals up by 70 minutes the outcomes are not obvious. After 70 mins in Malmo you could have said the outcome was obvious, but look what happened. When they were winning thier tainted titles, Keltic regularly nicked victories in the last twenty minutes, a habit I thought we had begun t pick up. And look at the times ManU clinched things in injury time, so much so that that it was known as 'Fergie time..' In many of those instances the outcome seemed 'obvious' after 70 minutes. The team desperately needed our support in the last third of the game and those supporters should have been encouraging them. Admittedly tv can deceive, but I didn't get the impression that they were.

We waited til they went 2-1 ahead before changing anything

I live 350-odd miles away. Outcomes are never obvious after 70 minutes. If you had been in Malmo, by that logic you would have left after their second goal.

Yeh he was available, but he has said he has been playing with painkillers for 8 years and his ongoing problems do often cause him to be rested when we are playing twice a week. It’s possible he had some discomfort that was enough for the management to rest him but not enough to put him out of the squad.

Not after last night's debacle, surely. Only completist collectors and masochists will wish to possess the rag. Most likely destinations will include bargain bins, charity shops, and recycling centres, and all in double quick time. You could remain looking like a tool, of course.....

He is a much better defender than Balogun though and you don’t see him giving away goals like Balogun did last night. The stats show that Helander is our best traditional defender too, we always look vulnerable without IMO.

he is bored of it.

Just back from the match. We certainly look a bit out of sorts. The entire defence was poor. Goldson has reverted back to panic mode and Tav and Barisic are being found out by solid defenders. I though Davis was our best player tonight. Aribo tried but Arfield, Wright and Kent didn't do much. Morelos was his usual self (good in spells). We need to learn to play through the middle more.

Ive never been a fan of the 4 3 3 formation. It got us so far in the Europa league but as soon as you come up against a certain level of opposition weve came unstuck. Leverkusen schooled us , sparta prague mugged us and again tonight we got rolled over. This season weve been weve been found out . Livingston for large parts of the game contained us very easily forcing us out wide and soaking up the crosses. A pattern which was very evident against Dundee utd and in both ties against malmo. Were very predictable. You can read us like a bloody book. Is it too much to ask for a flexability from time to time? Teams are shutting us down very easily and if we dont wisen up fast we will pay a heavy price.

We were absolutely blessed with that CL qualifying route too. Really disappointing.

Forget that. Ross County away is our next big game. I fear for us going into that OF game if we don't pull the finger out

Walter had some awful European nights with arguably better players; AEK Athens for one.

The problem with disappointments like this is there’s no escape from it. You’re trapped by your allegiance. All you can do is suffer and hope there’s some relief around the corner. I’m just hoping Gerrard sees the problem because if he doesn’t then things are only going to get worse.

He wasn’t directly at fault like Balogun was tonight.

Baffled by the decision to drop Helander for Balogun. Absolutely schoolboy defending from Balogun has cost us tonight and Gerrard has to take the blame for dropping our best man marker. There were loads of other failures out there tonight but those goals were sucker punches and should never have happened. This is now a very worrying start to the season and those who have brushed off the red flags to date will have woken up now. Hard work ahead and big decisions to be made in the transfer market.

We can't be passing the ball around our back four now, wasting time.

Candeias was a great worker, but couldn't cross to save his life. Didn't score much either.