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Cummings and Docherty should've come on at half time.

Exactly. Put that same vote to the C1872 members again, except this time include "improved disabled facilities" as an alternative to "standing section" and I am convinced that the vote would be completely different.

It is a pet project, one borne our of one small sub-section of the support. The vote was a yes/no vote - why not give members the opportunity to vote on other alternatives such as disabled facilities ? Why was there no proper consultation done with the C1872 members prior to putting this to a vote - maybe other interest groups would have provided an alternative so that a vote could have actually been meaningful instead of there being just one option.

I don't understand the logic: some seem to be saying, 'he's not going to be a complete player, so let him go'. Forgetting for a moment that every player can improve and progress, a less than complete player can still be a very good squad player; every team needs them.

We've been crying out for a big defender who is commanding in the air, he won most of his challenges yesterday and most of the time keeps it simple and safety first. I think the more games he gets, and hopefully with Martin helping him on his game, he will improve. He's only 21, Scottish and doing very well IMO considering the big jump up from where he has been playing, he deserves a new contract for me.

Excuse my language , but we need a right hard bastard in the middle .

I was sixty one a few weeks ago so i want a Still Game section, for us pure mad mental one foot in the grave coffin dodgers.

How many times have the scum dropped points and we've not taken advantage this season? I'd bet 4 or 5. Not good enough.

I have intimated previously that BBC Scotland are now in the habit of telephoning the opposition manager post match. We must welcome this, as license fee paying Rangers supporters, we receive greater coverage of events unfolding at Ibrox. Further, why should supporters of the opposition be denied coverage also, just because that Saturday's fixture list pairs them with BBC Scotland's least favourite team. Thus, since the end of November, we are the beneficiaries of post match interviews with Tommy Wright, Martin Canning, and Owen Coyle. The first two rightfully lionised their teams for deserved wins at Ibrox. Owen utilised the opportunity to complain about a non penalty than only he witnessed. Richard Gordon allowed him full vent. Then, Big Dick's Dandy Dons were battered again, and there was NO post match interview with Derek McInnes. A shame, I would have liked to hear Derek's take on his third consecutive failure this season. However, today the first post match managerial interview on BBC Radio Scotland today(apart from the 12.30 kick-off) was Neil Lennon. A smug Richard allowed Neil to state today's Hibs victory was up there with ra Sellik's CL defeat of Barca in his managerial feats. Sure, it was a sniggerfest for Big Dick and he enjoyed it enormously. It's such a shame he could NOT bring Derek to the phone. There you have it, at best BBC Scotland's post match managerial interviews are triumphalistic, and at least a grievance line. When it gets personally tough, Richard doesn't bother.

Spiers never forgets, particularly where and when he is bested. Back in the day, Jim Traynor spanked him from pillar to post, sans lubrication. Graham is anxious, too anxious to suggest the story is a Traynor invention. Now, Traynor left BBC Scotland because of it's constant need for Rangers bating(remember, when Chief Football Writer for the Herald, Souness banned Traynor for six weeks). Spiers has not appeared on BBC Scotland these last three months because they will not renew his golf show. The Laird of Dunlop is reduced to attending ra Stydome with his two sons. The big cheese is confined to wander between the winds. Graham, you may be windswept, but you are NOT interesting.

I'm outside looking in ....just to be clear I think 100% of fans' contributions should go towards buying shares until 25% is reached.

Still not convinced.

This was on the first visit to Dingwall earlier this season. Obviously the reaction to this photo did some good. This time round before kick off I spoke to one of the higher ranking Policemen and asked if us in wheelchairs could go in front of the hoardings and he said yes and he had absolutely no problems or concerns in accommodating such a request. Although you can't work it quite from the above photo this made a massive difference to the view for us wheelchair users. After about 15 minutes a Steward came down and told us all to go back behind the hoardings citing their favourite catch all "Health and Safety", we declined his request citing the Police response, he came back 5 minutes later and asked if the carers would go behind the hoardings a request we acceded to. A wee bit of common sense by all parties which made a huge difference to our view and enjoyment of the game. This lasted till Cummings goal and the invasion of the Neds then the Stewards came en masse and lined up like in the photo above though there was nobody where the 4 Police are grouped in that photo. I just hope the Neds haven't ruined it for any subsequent visit to Victoria Park for us wheelchair users. Tuesday sees us visit Partick Thistle who are moving us out of the front of the Main Stand which I quite liked as it was slightly elevated, sheltered and afforded clear unobstructed views and into the Jackie Husband Stand with the rest of the Rangers fans. It looks to be a decent area and if we can see over those standing up in front of the platform (it's hard to tell from certain from the photos but looks promising) it will a very welcome addition indeed and one like the new St Mirren area puts larger Club's to shame. St Mirren's recent addition in their Main Stand. Nice to see at least some sections of Scottish football taking the matter seriously and showing it's more a case of a willing mind than a fat wallet. News reaches me that UEFA have now started the process of moving the recommendations of the Access For All report http://www.cafefootball.eu/sites/default/files/contentfiles/pdfs/UEFAandCAFEGoodPracticeGuideENG.pdf from being merely guidelines and becoming regulation. I doubt this will be an overnight implementation but it's a most welcome development and can't come round soon enough. Meanwhile the SFA announce that after 2020 all Scotland games, semi-finals and finals will be played at either Hampden or Murrayfield probably the worst to grounds in the country for wheelchair fans. Makes you proud to be Scottish eh?

Social media is oddly (given it's name) detrimental to society.

What is he to do,he should be in middle scoring from crosses and cut backs,which were non existent, so he was left to try and control long forward passes to be held up for attacking midfield,who again were non existent,talk about being between a rock and a hard place.

Facebook messenger is good for group work etc. I use it for that (although Whatsapp is preferable) but that’s all. I can’t be bothered with all the “look at me I’m shallow as f@&k” stuff that’s on Facebook. Twitter is ok for keeping up with updates and getting your news first. Whatever source is of interest to you just follow them for their releases. I’m not important enough to be continually on twitter and couldn’t be bothered either.

Twitter,Facebook and other such sites,although they might have good points they are toxic and I will never be a part of them.

When I read this thread I went back to the tweet from his Mrs - there were only TWO messages in there which were negative, both obviously from Tims. One said "Why is this waste of space not dead yet" - clearly aimed at Gascoigne - and one which some people will agree with given some of his past indiscretions. The other said "Bar L black deck with wife beating jaikey tramp" - I have no idea of the reference to Bar L, presumably it is a certain section of Bar L. But as for the "wife beating jaikey tramp" comment the only thing you could really deny would be the tramp bit. In terms of the Twitter world that is very, very tame. I have seen far, far worse - and sadly, in many cases, from our own. This one is a storm in a teacup, nothing really to see.

It is not normal. Anything Rangers related is met with plagues of online trolls on social media and comments sections on online media. They are not normal. But it is creeping into normal society as well unfortunately.

If we get rid of everyone who won't go on to be a Rangers great, we may as well pack it all in now. We wouldn't have a single player left.

Fair enough, although some fans are probably a bit more extreme in their support. Diving about and winding up Rangers supporters is a bit beyond doing his job, I'd say.

We will always need squad players. I like Bates, he does the important things well for his age.

Tims and obsession with all things Rangers are interlinked. But trolling a player's wife does veer into deranged creepiness.

Exactly mate... its a bit weird, stalkerish when you think about it... I mean why are these folk even following an opposition players wife on twitter?

I agree Big Jaws. But online behaviour suggests many don't. Good luck to Dorrans and I hope his wife ignores the dafties giving her grief.

Here are some things to clear up some talking points. First the Morelos goal. Unfortunately you can clearly see that the ball has not been kickedand Morelos has already brocken the Hibs line. Then there is the penalty incident. First of all the offside rule is pretty difficult these days but I would say that this should have been offside. The Hibs player is definitely in an offside position . The ball is also played in his direction and he is also blocking Foderinghams vision of the shot. I can go further into the penalty incident but it really is a penalty. Not by Allen diving but Tav had his arm around Allen's chest from very early. I will say that Collum may not have given one if Allen never went down. Collum had brought his whistle to his mouth long before Allen went down. Collum was also in a perfect position to see it.

Anyone else wake up and pronounce an expletive immediately? Yesterday was a nightmare.

He did dive about for the whole of the time he was on the field dB but with that said he was also pushed for the penalty. He used it to go over with no resistance. Tav was more than stupid in that instance. If you're up against a player who has been doing that all day you simply don't do that or give him an opportunity to use it. More importantly though, in my opinion, I don't share the view of some bears that we were good enough in the second half to win the game. We weren't! We were garbage against Frazerburgh. The three goal victory masked an extremely poor performance by us. They're a highland league side for Christ sake we should have walked over the top of them and strolled that match but we didn't, far from it, we were matched all over the park except in the forward line by them. I had more than a feeling that we were going to be beaten yesterday and its been the same all season. I have no idea what Rangers team is going to turn up in any match we're playing. I find it almost impossible to predict any game we're involved in. Hibs won the game in the midfield yesterday and from the post match interviews Murty obviously knew thats what was going on so why didn't he get a message onto the park during the first half to change it? I'm sorry folks but that is Murtys department he needs to learn to be not only be flexible with his tactics but to also react to any situation when its needed. Leaving the subs till the 70th minute to change the formation and tactics shows an indecisiveness that I don't like.

Sorry mate, but check the pen incident again. Tav was a foolish doing what he did and Allan sure did not "dive" there. Had that been any of our players, we would call for a penalty as well ... and Collum was not letting up to pass such an opportunity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twQCB0VgkUk

I'm struggling to comment on the game, as I was caught up it at the time. I'd need to watch it back to comment on what went wrong, but I can't bring myself to do that. My gut reaction was we played ok, but didn't take our chances, and basically gave them two sloppy goals. It's clear to see the old scapegoats have been trundled out again. The stats provide an objective view of the game, cutting out the emotion, and they suggest we should've won the game. Of course, they don't show everything.

A box-to-box player that can score goals? I agree with the first part, but how many did he score for Hamilton in 6 years? He scored 6 goals. We're looking for a silver bullet again, and projecting it onto any player that's new.

Dived about the whole match, gestured towards the fans, dived for the penalty.

Sadly it seems McCoist has become a Rangers hater or is doing it to keep his job. Painting Celtic good in the media seems to be part of the job description.

To be fair that’s just it though. We are not good enough. Inconsistent and some players shouldn’t be there. We are what we are and although better than last season, still not there. Additionally, we had two players out in McCrorie and Jack who would have made a difference today. Our midfield was lightweight and that’s where we lost it. The could cut right through us when they felt like it. Tactically changing things on 70mins seemed a little late as we were all looking for it on 60 (if not before?). However Murty is doing as well as anyone could and it’s his call.

He had an off day today but I'd suggest he's been having a good season.

Our players need to learn how to play alongside Murphy. When he goes past players they need to make runs in behind defenders to allow him to slip the ball thro. Instead they are all congregating in the penalty box surrounded by defenders hoping he'll deliver an inch perfect cross. Murphy is an intelligent, skillful & creative player but he needs players on the same wavelength alongside him.

You are correct, Murphy often penetrated 30-40 yards. A constant 10-15 seconds of holding the ball, whilst waiting for a pass/cross to present itself. It didn't happen, instead Murphy traversed 30-40 yards across the Hibs eighteen yard line, to eventually pass the ball to Tav'. I want Windass, demand Windass provides the necessary 10-15 yard diagonals into the opposition box creating the angles. Murphy is shining, the team should be making hay.

If we had won today people would be saying it was a great game. It was still a great high tempo game with only the wrong result

We have had an eventful few weeks at the club and more importantly around the town, so it is only correct that we place on record our thanks to each and every one of you who have helped in any way. For fear of forgetting someone it is difficult to list the many who helped from both near and far but please know your help was highly appreciated. Many thanks also to all the businesses and homes which had decorated their windows and gardens in the colours of the club and in some cases the colours of our opponents. It has been a fantastic sight going around the town and seeing what it means to everyone to have a football club at the heart of it. If there was ever a reminder to us of our roots and to continue what we do, then this was it. It is genuinely heart-warming to think that our club has been the catalyst for all the good will and happy faces we have witnessed recently. It has past now, and we move back to normality but with that we can take the memories with us and aim to try and replicate that feeling again. In my own head I don’t think there is anybody prouder than me to be a Brocher but deep down I know that isn’t the case and what I have witnessed recently gives me confidence that we really do have a great town bubbling under the surface of all the negativity we hear sometimes. As is always the case there are some who you can never please and who will find the pettiest of things to complain about, but that is life. We tried our best to do the right thing and unfortunately got abuse from some people but once they understood what we were trying to achieve they realised we were trying to look out for them. However, from a very small section of people, we continued to get abuse and criticism and the bad side of social media makes it look worse than it really is. We could come out and say that we don’t care and if you don’t like it then tough, we don’t need you. That might be a reasonable response to some folk, but we won’t do that, it isn’t our style. We want as much people as possible to embrace the club and the town. We don’t get everything right and sometimes we don’t even get most things right, but we do try our best to do the right things in the hope that it works. The Fraserburgh FC Supporters Club have done a marvellous job and I must thank Brian Topping, Kenny McDonald and Mike McLean for the fantastic amount of help they gave us in getting the tickets distributed. The night of the space heaters might sound like a Science Fiction movie but in fact was one of the most humbling things I have ever witnessed and cemented my belief that we truly have a decent community. It was a shame that it didn’t work but it showed to us that we have help there when needed. Rangers FC, The Scottish FA, Aberdeenshire Council and last but by no means least Police Scotland have all been unbelievably helpful. Without the help and support of you guys we would not have got off the ground. Every one of those organisations are made to look like cannon fodder with the amount of criticism they receive sometimes but we have nothing but respect and gratitude for them all. Nothing has been a problem for them. To my fellow Directors and club officials, I thank you for all the hard work in getting the game hosted at Bellslea Park and subsequently being the great occasion, it was. I don’t think people realise how much work goes into the running of a football club and getting matches organised but even I was taken aback by the magnitude of work required for this. We got there though and can look back with pride. Finally, to the players, coaching staff and management. You were the reason we were in the fourth round of the Scottish Cup and must thank you for that but more importantly the way you all conducted yourselves in the media storm that surrounded the game. It was great fun, but it was done in a professional way that portrayed the club in a good light to the watching nation. We can’t ask for more than that. It was an occasion for everyone in the town and one we can all look back on fondly. A million thanks ! Finlay Noble A Very Proud Chairman Fraserburgh Football Club Updated 21:16 - 2 Feb 2018 by Finlay Noble

I think china is where players go to rust away to oblivion frankly.

But who decides what options the members are given? If there's a vote on whether they should contribute towards safe standing then a majority would vote yes, but will members be given a choice between that, disabled facilities and one or two other projects? I'm not so sure.

Sellik's Joe reminds me of David Icke, both of them receiving despatches from a planet which even the most powerful radio telescopes have failed to discover. Icke, of course, makes a handsome living from peddling such -interplanetary- gibberish; Sellik's Joe, however, discloses the content of these communiques solely in the interests of Truth and Justice, neither seeking, nor receiving, any consideration in return. Still, I do wonder, perhaps cynically, surely uncharitably, if the reports that Joe receives are actually no more than messages in a bottle.