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The biggest mistake with Kent wasn't running down his contract but paying £7m for him in the first place. There's no way we should have been spending £7m on anyone at that time.

I wasn’t overwhelmed when Arfield signed on and a couple of years ago I wouldn’t have been much bothered by him leaving. Now he’s the only one of the five whom I see as having any residual worth. Good honest tradesman.

Aye, well, nobody told me the rumours so I'll just need to remain ignorant. If only there was someone, anyone, that could spread the rumour to this thread.

Morelos I don’t mind so much but the Kent one hurts. 7 million we paid for him.

All five players have enjoyed various important moments at the club and at their very best were fine servants. However, it's definitely better they now move on as we look to improve the side for the challenges ahead. With respect to Morelos and Kent, we can't allow the same situation to occur again in terms of valuable assets being allowed to run down their contracts.

Sorry to see Arfield go he always gave 100% , Helander will probably come good now Kent will end up in the English championship and big bawheid can be the poster boy for some hamburger shop

Those things are used too much to excuse failures over the past years though. Celtic have been comfortably the best team in Scotland since 55. That's a huge failure, regardless of the EL run.

Sorry about Arfield he would have been a good squad member,McGregor father time has caught up,Kent/Morelos thaks for the memories and Helander too fragile but good player(Roofe should be similarly let go IMO).

Not always. Sometimes we can win a watch and get lucky with a £1million signing like Morelos. We could have sold him before 55 for big money and that’s a debate that will live on. But 1 million for that kind of return is ok. What we cannot do is spend 7 million on a player and not recoup some of the cash. We don’t have the finances and will quickly return to the financial mire if repeated. Similar for Helander and Roofe. It’s madness. Nearly 15 million of talent walking away for nothing. Puts that 1 million for Morelos into perspective imo.

Seriously disappointed we're punting ScottyArf, he's a smashing player. However, I see this as Beale moving on, bigger and better hopefully.

Slight reservations about Arfield but otherwise I just have a sense of relief that we're finally moving on. I only hope there are others in the departure lounge who we think we can sell for money.

A lot of freed-up wages.

Or a Gary Sprake. I remember a Home International at Hampden in the late sixties, Sprake took a through ball with one hand and threw it from the middle of his box towards a lurking Wyn Davies in the centre circle. The throw cleared the half way line and their was a collective wow from the crowd. Interestingly about Pat Jennings, it seemed he made most of his saves with his feet?

Oh for a Pat Jennings; comes out, takes the ball with one hand. Mind you, he did have hands like shovels.

That we know of anyway

Lawrence, IMHO, will if fit start the season as the left sided attacking mid that Kent presently holds. That was where he kind of started this season, as we didnt really play with wingers. Agreed on him being our best player too - he was a massive loss when he got injured

Good luck to Kane Ritchie-Holser who as joined Dunfermline on a permanent basis after a loan spell there. https://www.dafc.co.uk/story.php?t=Kane+Ritchie-Hosler+returns&ID=14400

Now its been confirmed, I wish them all the best in their careers and thank them all for their contributions, especially 55 and EL runs. Hopefully see them all back at Ibrox as fans - Once a Ranger, always a Rangers.

I am disappointed to lose Arfield but the others are well past their sell by date.

That’s a false dilemma. We’ll never know what would have happened if we’d sold him when we had a chance. I think we’d have replaced him with a better player.

I'm intrigued by Dowell. He was held in similar regard to Cantwell as a youngster. The difference being Cantwell has had more PL experience. Another technical #10.

Is it because he calls Autumn 'Fall'?

No, play the best team and keep winning.

Just because we only spent 1 million on him doesnt mean it hurt not capitalising on him when at the peak of his value. Had we sold him for 15 million we could have been out of sight of Celtic. Instead we pinned our hopes on him and it was a bust (admittedly hindsight plays a great deal in that) - but either way, just because you don't spend much doesnt mean it doesnt hurt when you don't capitalise on maximum value, especially when you have finances like ours.

It may be one is kept for coaching purposes or the the other might never reach full fitness again.

Surprised to see Arfield move on. The manager must have a better alternative. The other four should all have been moved on earlier.

Bournemouth are a strange team and were 0-2 up at Arsenal and should have won. Quite capable of scoring and play nice football.

What a wonderful day. Never thought some of those players would leave. It should have been a long time ago and hanging onto them cost us in more ways than one. Big opportunity for Beale to put those freed up wages to better use now!

Was my hero growing up - met him at the Arsenal POTY awards in 1981 when I was a nipper. Got my photo taken with him and I had to stand 6 steps behind him to be same height.... I can confirm he has hands like shovels 🤣

Thanks and good luck to all.

Hopefully something the Rangers Charity Foundation can get behind. Going to speak to my RSC and see if there is anything we can do to support this.

I’ve got two issues signing Jack Butland as our first choice GK for next season:- 1) what happens if we sign him on a 3 year contract at £30-40k p.w. & he starts making too many mistakes like Jon McLaughlin did start last season? 2) if he’s so good why has he hardly played these past 2 seasons? Surely someone down south would have signed him by now? I think we need to give McCrorie his chance & we need to sign another young keeper to challenge him for the jersey. I don’t think he looked great at times yesterday but he’s only 25 and we have to be a bit more patient.All GK’s make mistakes.

That's very true and is at the heart of the dilemma. What's our budget for a keeper, £2 million, £3 million, £4 million? What kind of keeper will that buy us? It's certainly not going to get us a Stefan Kloss equivalent today or an Allan McGregor in his prime. Jack Butland, who we're continuously linked with, is the 3rd choice Crystal Palace keeper. He's had an ok career, but he's a Championship level keeper with an iffy injury record. At 30 he's a good age for a goalie, but he will make occasional mistakes, he has done his whole career, and he'll be worth nothing at the end of his contract. He might not incur a transfer fee, but his signing on fee and wages will be substantial. Is that a good investment when we could have a great keeper at the club who just needs a run of games? It's a gamble, I accept that, but then so is signing a new keeper too. McCrorie isn't a teenager, he's 25, he's coming into his prime as a player. But he needs games, he needs first team football. The difficult reality is we're not able to compete like for like with Celtic currently. They have bigger budgets and will continue to have for at least another 12 months. We need to develop players, we somehow need to figure out how to do that while winning. It's a conundrum, but it's essential to the long term health of the club. I'd be nervous if we were deciding to replace Morelos with Robbie Ure, or Kent with Josh McPake, but McCrorie feels like a gamble where the odds a bit more in our favour.

I think it’s telling how long it has been since there has been serious interest in them though. August 2020 were the last good bids for Morelos and Kent, and the only ones that we know of I think. No bids as they entered their final 12 months is very telling. I'm sure we wouldn't haven't been that hard to deal with.

Absolutely not. The entire club and support seems to be diseased with cloying sentiment nowadays. Rangers winning should be all that matters.

Now the hard work comes of trying to find a buyer for the unwanted players....

But not supporting Helander back to full fitness?

In addition to these ones I presume we’ll now be trying to move on a few others not out of contract

It might seem a bit contrarian but I'm not buying the view this guy isn't worthy of a place at Rangers. He was well regarded by the Polish FA before we signed him and was considered to have a decent future in the game. He's hardly the first foreign player we've had to settle into life in Scotland so I assume something went badly wrong when he first joined Rangers, either on his side or ours. I never felt enough effort was made to get some return from this signing and I suspect he may have been a victim of GvB's legendary man-management skills. Whenever I hear someone is "homesick", it's usually to cover up some fuck up or broken promises that the club would rather not admit to. We'll see if MB is able to resurrect a future for Zukowski at Ibrox.

Oh, also apparently people who view the results without voting, and therefore surrender their vote, are counted as voters.

Thanks, Frankie. Apart from the old age aches and pains, I am fine. I have always loved the Gersnet and looked in as guest. I just felt I needed a break. It was longer than I thought.

He wears his heart on his sleeve. What an incredible person he is.

The question is why is Lundstram now all of a sudden in form and not looking like he is towing a caravan. Also why is he now playing in a more advanced role and not getting a 5 yard pass Davies and making a 10 yard pass to Goldson. I am happy he has hit form as he will be hopefully easier to sell. In the years that he has been at Ibrox he has had about 6 good months. One of the ones that should be sold for a bigger budget.

Best keeper in recent memory that comes for crosses is Emi Martinez at Villa. Definite comparisons between him becoming a no.1 late and McCrorie. People are talking as if signing Butland would be the end of McCrorie, if he really is as average as people make out and makes mistakes often then Robbie will be back in and will get his chance. There's nothing to lose with signing another experienced good level keeper on a free in line with the wage bill, we bloody should be imo. It's not a case of either or. And I'm not being funny, if being capped by your country and playing in the Premier League is having an 'ok' career then 99% of goalies are failures.

From a man who saw John Valentine and should therefore know a rubbish centre half when he sees one.

Coming for crosses is one of the hardest things a goalkeeper can do and not many 'keepers are consistently good at it. It requires a reading of various factors; weather, flight of the ball, positioning, communication and negotiating a path to the ball. This calculation has to be done in milli-seconds so it's not a surprise to see mistakes happen. It's also something driven by confidence - an on-form 'keeper will seem to claim everything, whilst an off-form one will hold back. Saving shots is more instinctive and arguably easier in the grand scheme of things. As is commanding your box - which is different from claiming crosses. I'd suggest McCrorie still commanded his box fairly well yesterday which allowed our defence to play farther up the park once again. He did drop one fairly easy cross ball early on which was perhaps down to the greasy conditions and I thought he should have stayed on his line when Nisbet headed just wide early in the 2nd half. But he claimed several balls at the edge of his box and swept up one outside his box as well which McGregor often struggled with in the last season or two. Other than that McCrorie was fine. Remember we also had another, younger centre-half playing yesterday so that would have affected communication a wee bit; perhaps making everyone slightly more anxious. Good to see you back on the forum, Pete - hope you're well!

Very interesting question. I don’t know enough goalkeeping science to answer properly but my instinct would be to go for the ball, catch it with luck, otherwise get it away from anywhere within ten yards or so of the goal line. A top ‘keeper will know by instinct or by experience when to come and when to stay put. I wonder if McGregor’s attitude was ‘have the ball if you like, I’ll still stop you.’ It worked fine until last season.