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Lammers was a plant. Whilst the Betis players were standing about looking totally bewildered as to how he was selected, we nip in and take the ball off them.

I'm sure Sportsound are working hard on a documentary exposing the running of Dundee Utd and the simply unsustainable losses and level of debt they currently have. That level of financial doping in the Championship requires exposure to a bigger audience. I'm sure the public service broadcaster is making the final edits as I type.

The Mussels are usually below the tide line, no up in the dunes chief.

That or the 10 pints and 20 JPS

Jum Spence has been awfy quiet these days.

I will be shocked if we manage to nab Manhoef, but if we do, I will be very impressed

Players nowadays are faster, stronger and generally fitter than they were in the days of Gullane. The advancements in the science of it all are significant. You only have to watch games from back then to realise how players have changed and how much more intense the game is now. Perhaps there's an argument about the relative fitness given the time but in absolute terms there's no question that players now are far fitter.

Absolutely, but I think the exact same of paying £38,000 a week to Goldson. That makes me sick. It is completely reckless for a club of our income to be blowing £2M a year on a centre half. I'd love the person who sanctioned that to be fired but I guess they are long gone. Surely with our income stream there should be nobody on more than £25Kpw?

Work, that's a broad word, but if you mean training, our players are far fitter than those that played during the Gullane days, no question.

He's going nowhere. Nobody else is going to pick up his salary at that level till the end of the season, so we're stuck with him. I wouldn't be surprised if he then retired.

We couldn't afford him anyway. Cat was on something like 60K a week. The number teams he was on told me a couple things. One of which is...he is ALL about the Benjamins. No voluntary pay cuts coming from that camp. Besides, we don't need him when Kevin Van Veen is still available.

I bet ole Lammers feels like someone pulled a Volkswagen off his back today. Better for everyone.

Keep it lad. It will become a collector's item. .

I’m content that if Clement doesn’t want him then he’s definitely beyond help.

They can have my seed anyday ☺️

I think there must be a point when you get to a certain level of fitness where muscles are more easily damaged. Some of the players 30+ years ago got booted all over the pitch but barely missed a game, whereas now the slightest knock can have someone out for weeks. They certainly didn't have the same muscle tone the players nowadays do but maybe that's why they were more resilient.

Just watching games from the 70s and comparing them with current day games.

A couple of them came on for the last fifteen minutes against Arsenal. Gunners schooled by schoolboys.

Is there any way of backing up that claim?

Good idea but there will be rules and regulations in place and if not I could see the local council and some councillors creating all kinds of problems

The speed and intensity of the game now creates its own challenges. @Bluedell's point stands however.

But perhaps less durable.

Yes, exactly. People think it was about fitness, wrongly.

I think there is a balance to it. Agree with your Goldson conclusion. Its madness. They only time we should be paying massive wages to a player is when they have a high transfer value and are highly coveted and we have given them a big pay rise pending a big transfer. Paying guys the wrong side of 30 +£30k per week is a recipe for disaster. These guys are only going to get worse not better.

balderdash

Just as long as there is a buying option added.

If stadium expansion isn't an option then showing every away game in NEH should be on the table. We need to be maximising what we have because being 10k down on their attendances isn't doing us any favours. Why SDM thought 50k was enough for us when most teams of our size were pushing 60k or north is mind-blowing

And those that like a cup of tea.

Maybe just wasting time between connecting flights.... 😉

booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Absolutely spot on. The pies are honking and I don't like Bovril.

He was bad mate, but was he any worse than Jeffers, Beattie, Ian Black, Marcus Gayle, Sandanza, MOH etc? And I've not even mentioned those who played for us in league 2........ Having to go for a lie down in a dark room now, giving myself the fear 😨

His name is Dujon. Dijon is a type of mustard.

Well, Sam has gone. I wish him all the best at Utrecht and I am positive it is best for all concerned should the deal be made permanent. I was intending to inquire on the heading to the sunshine thread, if Sam was on the aircraft? It was the Aris Limassol game where I realised Sam reminded me of one of those Spanish waiters of old. A Manuel character, the very second you raised your hand to summon, he would turn and head off in the opposite direction. Sam had the same relationship with the ball. Oh, the Spanish hospitality's trade's loss is Utrecht's gain.

"I have just returned from a festive trip to the Emerald Isle", says RAB Cosgrove. "Oh dearie me", says Tam the Token. Above are the two opening statements from the cohosts of Saturday's Off the Ball show. RAB continues his immersion into the warm waters of Orishness allowing resolutions of never being confronted by a Twinings tea bag and expressing a new found love for Gaelic sports only rivalled by further love for bearded avuncular Irish men. RAB radiates plastic Paddy to please the good friends of the show. An Irish Passport will be next? Tam's opener was the entry to that VAR non-decision on the 30th December'22 at Sellik Park. Tam and RAB are fed up with a constant week long discourse on Nick Walsh and Willie Collum then, proceed with a thirty minute long analysis. The synopsis is thus, Rangers had a point and held the moral high ground. The tipping point was to personalise the event by demanding Willie Collum no longer officiates games involving aRangers. I agree, Rangers over egged a rancid pudding, the demands on Collum proved no limit of exploitation had been considered in the club appreciation. Both continued with extrapolation, no refereeing officials and families should face threats and the personalisation will lead to another Referees strike, "Celtic fans caused the first referees strike, Rangers fans will cause the next, it will be one-one". These two clowns are forever chastising those pundits that criticise supporters who invade pitches or throw snowballs claiming they could be carrying weapons or including grenades in the thrown objects because; fans do not carry chainsaws or grenades. Here, they extrapolate to a referee strike because it is their preferred prejudice. There is no referee strike and there will not be one thus, I disagree. Now, if the PQ Gang Hut want to have a discussion or a documentary on the Referee strike that did happen, then I am all ears. Peter will not allow it. Anyways, Tam ends with another, "JFK moment". He tells of being in the Spar on the Isle of Arran when hearing a report of Rangers conceding a penalty against Killie. RAB emotes another well rehearsed faux guffaw. I wonder does RAB travel and declare his faux guffaws when visiting his considerable property portfolio? Is he a faux guffaw smuggler? It extrapolated in a PQ Gang Hut sense, when Kenny Macintyre appeared at One O'Clock to preview Sportsound, Tam could not resist another dig. Earlier in the week, a caller to the Jeremy Vine show made front page headlines, he bellowed, "F the Pope and the IRA" down the line. The faux guffaw began as Tam said, "Happy New Year Kenny, I have not heard you since you called Jeremy Vine during the week"? The shows guests, Conneach Macleod and Lubna Kerr chorused guffaws with RAB. It is most useful to have the occasional Rangers supporter on the show. Talking of guests, before the festive period we had Marc Jennings and BBC Scotland staffer, Paul English. Both are Sellik supporters. Over the weekend last we were served up Conneach and Lubna, both Sellik supporters. On Sunday, it was Paddy Duffy .......... what is the point? Conneach Macleod let the cat out the bag, he was on to promote his Hebridean Bakery tomes; however, he declares he was Sellik's Commercial Manager for five years them, seven years at the SFA, ......... ah dae whit Peter tells me. As Tam said, "oh dearie me" and the supporters of Scotland's other 41 senior professional clubs are NOT guffawing.

I wish the book and club every success. The tome looks like a cracking festive read and the perfect tonic to accompany a glass of Harris Gin. Throughout my professional life, I carried a battered copy of Neil Munro's 'Para Handy Tales'. A training area wood line, a range complex slit trench or, waiting for a pre-jump C-130; release Neil's words from it's plastic protection and, find yourself in a better place. There is a little known tale of FC Vital Spark being drawn away to Carloway in the Hochmagandy Cup. Para held the tiller steady. Dan MacPhail was akin to a Perkins, going up'n'doon and roon'n'roon in midfield. Sunny Jim's pre match ritual of running the Cuillin peaks and swimming the Minch kept him quiet during the goalless first half. He recovered in the second period and ran in a hat-trick. If Dougie was here, he wid tell ye himself.