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Early defeat for them & it’s game on again in my humble opinion Source of this last night was 100%, Gersnet first with the news again ??

After yesterday's good news on our accounts, I expected Celtic to come up with something to keep us out the news but this is a little over the top.

Neil McCann is a true Rangers. I loved him as a player, and I respect the man.

I await Dornan, Haggerty, Spiers and their unending collection of saints and victims ramping up the one-sided anti-sectarianism campaign as soon as it happens.

We should concentrate on ourselves. Our downfall this season has been dropping daft points, home and away - nothing to do with Separate Entity FC.

Interesting ! Two defeats in Edinburgh for them this week would be sweet. Lennon being brought in to calm the sectarian divide could be viewed by some to be corporate irresponsibility

Helter Skelter. Spirits in the PQ Gang Hut were running high on Thursday evening, the usual two Irish guys and an Aussie were proclaiming Sellik for carrying the Scottish standard in Europe. Sectarianism was hosed down for a time, it's all Rangers and Rangers supporters' fault. After a one nil victory for Valencia(3-zip on aggregate), the Scottish standard was lowered and Steve Clarke was lionised. The Killie manager is clearly at the end of his emotional tether, Big Dick thinks Stevie's thanking Chelsea for taking him away from the west of Scotland, was quite the saddest thing he has heard. We were reminded that Scotland is a great country and the blight that is sectarianism must be eradicated. The two Irish guys, the Aussie, Big Dick, Liam McLeod, .... et al did not mention, let alone discuss the sectarianism and coins aimed at Kris Boyd. Further, the antics of several thousand Yahoos running amok in south east Spain were not up for discussion either. A Rangers theme pub in Benidorm being set ablaze, the other two being locked and guarded by the Guardia Civil, numerous running battles, six arrests, .... etc was filed under, 'Effigies'. This approach, known as doing a Humza Yousaf, allows the Gang Hut to ignore awkward and inconvenient events that run contrary to the pervading narrative. It's the way ahead for new, modern Scotland. Saturday morning had Shereen Nanjiani's show with Angela Haggerty as one of three guests. Sectarianism was on the menu again, Angela revealed her Irish catholic roots, her parents stories were a lament of discrimination, and she co-founded 'Call it Out' with Jeanette Findlay after a priest was attacked at St Alophonsus church. Angela ignored Kris Boyd's experience and Spanish affairs do not progress the narrative. Off the Ball followed Angela's objective views, DrStu' is backing Michael Stewart's call for strict liability. Oh, and whataboutery should be banned because it's unhelpful. He told us the concept of no whataboutery derives from the Slugger O'Toole website. Sections of society must take ownership and responsibility for their failings, whataboutery runs interference on progress. He gave an example of Jim White wearing an orange marching band uniform. I would have thought something that occurred thirty-odd years past could have been trumped by the petrol bombing of a Rangers bar in Benidorm a few days previously? However, that is whataboutery and well, who takes ownership for that, if we are not allowed to run interference on the narrative? This new modern Scotland will be a mine field. I mean, can we mention a current BBC Scotland show Host being exposed as shouting, 'can you spot a handsome h-u-n' at Queen Street station? How about the same Host labeling Rangers supporters, 'H-u-ns and typical orange wankers'? Or, the same Host as a columnist in the Daily Record claiming Rangers supporters ransacked Barcelona's cathedral in 1972? All these examples are more relevant than Jim White's choice of evening wear, but conveniently absolve DrStu' of being a perpetrator in the issue because whataboutery bans the raising of such questions, even though from a Rangers supporters' point of view, they are most germane to the case. The stick has been created, now DrStu' wants a creative input in fashioning the weapon. It will be honed to batter Rangers and Rangers supporters. DrStu' likes control, he ridicules Jim Traynor's return to national TV. We find out the nine seconds of TV exposure was condensed from a 25 minute interview. DrStu' celebrates Traynor's heavily edited appearance because the presentation complies with BBC Scotland's narrative. The other 24 minutes and 51 seconds of the interview lie on a PQ floor, and that is the cause of triumph and ridicule with someone constantly demanding both clarity and transparency. Control is heady, and it leads DrStu' into increasingly regular auditions to be Master of the Universe. In the wake of Peter Tork's death, he posed a quiz question as to which notorious character had been penciled in to be the fifth Monkee? Two hours of no one providing the 'correct' answer, DrStu' reveals the name, Charles Manson. Everyone knows the the obsessive murdering control freak(Charles, not DrStu') brought nasal harmony to the Beach Boys. The second half of Off the Ball began with an apology, Manson was not up for Monkee selection, because he was in the jail. Hey, hey, we're the flunkees, BBC Scotland's continued approach to sectarianism!

Aye, ok, Victor

I've just had a coffee in the central station and heard a crackpot woman say to her friend, it's all those bigoted orange bastards fault for driving him away, I nearly fell over my walking sticks laughing ? .

Can I be the first to say this: BREXIT now means something else at Keltic Park - Brendan Exit!

Luckily I’m not blinded by anything. What’s happened here is that you have turned an attempt by VB to discredit a recognised Rangers hater into your attempt to discredit a committed Rangers supporter organisation. This issue here isn’t about Vanguard bears, it’s about Dornan and the rest of the SNP’s band of bigots who use public office to attack Rangers. You’ve been hell bent since the start on deflecting any criticism of Dornan and the reason is abundantly clear. You’re no Rangers supporter, as I understand Rangers Supporters. You’re a nationalist first and last and that will always be your priority. Indeed it looks increasingly like that’s the sole motivation for your presence on this forum. In my opinion, and it’s only my opinion, you should stop this ridiculous pretence.

Dornan probably spends most of his time laughing because he receives public funding to conduct his anti-Rangers agenda. If only our dimwitted compatriots stopped voting for chancers like him, we wouldn't even require a petition...poorly worded or otherwise.

"Combatting Sectarianism In Scottish Society" could be described as a National Anti Sectarianism Group. I don't see how anyone could suggest otherwise. Unless their agenda is aligned with our enemies, of course.

Correct. Target Dornan by all means. A worthwhile endeavour. Just do it properly.

The sectarian "debate" will be ramped up significantly in coming weeks.

I just love El Buffalo

I think the big difference now is the internet. It's amplifying the effect, plus they're all nutters to start with, so their reaction is a lot more pronounced than ours was back then.

Celtic Fans: "Shocked", "Gutted", "Disgusted". Me:

You need only look at how silent Humza Yousaf has been on convicted pedophiles connected to Celtic and his lack of interest in sparking an investigation into whether this was institutionalized abuse..... and how quickly he was in front of a camera to denounce (one-way) sectarianism after Clarke's deflection from a pumping last week.

That's the irony of it. All this faux offence at some words... yet Celtic fans literally demolish a Spanish town and the media in Scotland are completely silent on it.

I remember when this group was set up by Dornan and challenged him on the constituent members of the group. He said at the time that it was a cross party group and had been open to all parties and MP's to "apply" to be part of the group but that the only people who wanted to participate were the ones now part of that group. So, IF that is correct we can't really complain at who the members of the group are - if the group consists of CFC fans or republicans the other parties should have been asking members to participate to give balance. That they didn't is their problem and, by extension, ours too. None of that, however, should detract from the fact that James Dornan is unfit for purpose in this role when he has a biased, slanted view of what sectarianism is. He should be removed and a campaign to remove him should be undertaken, but not by the Club, it should be something that is undertaken at a higher level.

Mr King's prediction was a little off. All it took was one win!

Let's face it if you're with one of the old firm teams it goes with the job , oh how I would have loved to bang in a hatrick and hear them chant your a dirty orange bastard it would have made me play even better .

Can you imagine if they imploded and we managed to win the title........ Rodgers would be viewed as THE naughtiest of bhoys by the Groin Brigarde, rather than the Messiah......and Lawwell would probably be forced out.

I thought the league race was well and truly lost but ... just maybe ... ??

At least this would explain the fall out TLB had with Hibs, ST Pats FC approached him back then and therefore they don't need to pay any compo/fee to Hibs

Good to see 'follow-up' from the Stewart Robertson interview (RTV). However, in an ideal world it wouldn't be Jim Traynor with the delivery. We gave him his first job (contract) in PR and what we've had in return is very much a beginner whose style is so ingrained it won't change. I'd much rather have a combative lawyer who knew his stuff but boxed clever. I appreciate that may be costly but how much do we want this sorted.

Well said Neil. As previous posters have mentioned, Neil McCann is a true Ranger. Why is he not back at our place in some capacity?

I don’t know of any way that petitions on change.org can compel anything to happen unlke a parliamentary petition where 100,000 signatories might get you a debate. Dornan’s group was set up by him under Scottish Parliament rules so complaints should be made to The Standards, Procedures and Publc Appointments Committee at Parliament along the lines that Dornan should be removed from the convenorship of the group on the ground that his own conduct has been sectarian, citing relevant examples. Better still stand against him at the next election or support any party but his. As an aside, how do you remove anyone “from influence“? Bearger and Black Socks are right. I don’t say that often on non football matters.

It would appear to be a possibility that this has been on the cards for weeks and certain people on the inside knew about it. Even Moussa Dembele is tweeting from France something along the lines of 'told you" So presuming Lennon was one of those 'in the know' he then craftily extricated himself from hubz in bizarre circumstances. No real explanation of why while not sacked and didn't resign? Brenda in turn extricated himself at the perfect time. He had won every domestic trophy he competed for there but that was effectively accomplished with little in the way of realistic opposition. That's changing and he knew it.

I could hardly understand him? Was it a parody of “interpreting for the NEDS”???. Wow, “A canny bear eh say he’s name”?? Twitter has been a goldmine today?

What a convenient distraction for Liewell

To be fair, people do tend to vomit due to jealousy......

Well there’s a hundred million reasons why they will need all the money they can get, very soon

Having been subjected to verbal abuse and physical assault because I support Rangers, I can categorically state that the former is not remotely troubling in comparison to the latter. In fact, I quite enjoy getting verbal abuse.

Tims don't half go OTT when things go tits up at the Piggery. ?

If Rodgers thought he would be given the resources to reach the Champions League group stages next season he'd have stayed, simple as that.

I still think they will win the league - IF the replacement comes in and is sensible. All the replacement really needs to do is pick the same players and have them playing the same way - they are 8 points clear and just need to keep chugging along. I am, quite clearly, saying this in the hope that I am, as per usual, completely wrong.

Exactly! Like Lucifer being recruited to the Fire Brigade! And at this particular sensitive moment; I cannot believe they would be that stupid.

The Gang Hut strategy is quite clear. There is a debate to be had, whataboutery sets the parameters of the debate. It's no longer a debate because you are being told the set words and phraseology that are permissible for usage. If you accept your opponents demands and use of language, then it's not a debate. You are being lectured at. The thing is, PQ need Rangers supporters participation to legitimise their concept of debate; perhaps they should advertise for useful idiots? It was a lot easier ten, twenty years past, you had willing Producers phoning up and pretending, you had Spiers, and Chris McLaughlin constantly telling lies. There is a constant PQ refrain, 'we want to hear from Rangers supporters'? Any Bear that does contribute; you are not being invited to a debate, you are being lured into participation in an execution.

One might evince surprise that Past Tricks FC does not appear to be "fighting" (tooth and nail) to keep its Manager and entourage. One might think that at the first sniff of a compen cheque, the door was thrown wide open, allowing St Brenda & Co to depart without ceremony. One might suggest that permitting the entire first XI coaching team to depart Pell-mell to Leicester will prove to be a Cardinal error. Talking of which, one might imagine that every penny in the Porkheid piggery bank is prisoner, and every and any subvention grasped with alacrity; such prudency may be damaging, but damages must be provided for.

After Hibs got rid of Lennon, I'd hoped that was the last we would have to endure his particular brand of bigoted poison.

Exactly. Its a business that has a turnover towards £50m. Existing on brand and image. Board members recently put up £11m of their own money. That's a huge investment to have tarnished on an almost daily basis by a couple of silly buggers at the BBC. I would expect to see it protected as such.

I think the Watford is a tricky game for Liverpool. Watford are on a decent run of form and Liverpool seem to be blowing hot and cold at the moment

Well done to the guy's tonight. Enjoyable listen. We are actually getting quite good at this.